Whats Your Dream Wrestling Match?

[Guest Dillon Likes Bossman]

My dream match is Lo-Ki v RVD

[Guest RickyChosyu]

Williams had some very good US work, not just with the Steiners but with Rutunda too. However, his peak would deffinately have to be '93-'94, as he dominated All Japan as a heel foreigner in the tradition of the Bruiser Brodies and Stan Hansens before him. He was just a great heel with the physical intesnity expected of him but also with the smart work that put his opponents over as well. Just a really fantastic wrestler.

[Guest godthedog]

i think ric flair v. kenta kobashi would be gold. thing is, since kobashi's moves are so much deadlier than flair's, kobashi would have to get very little offense in through the whole match, with flair constantly outsmarting him or cheating to avoid those big moves. he'd have to pound the knee into oblivion, so that whenever kobashi made a comeback & tried a powerbomb/orange crush/whatever, the knee buckled & kobashi had to think of a new way to win.

 

bret v. kawada could be great, with bret just getting his ass handed to him (where the unbalanced offense would actually work) but refusing to get pinned & trying desperately to get SOME kind of offense in.

 

flair v. austin, as stated before, would kick all kinds of ass. an 'i quit' match would probably draw the maximum kickassness from them.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

Bret's the type of guy who would hate working with Kawada. To Bret, working stiff defeats the puprose of wrestling, and thus, he would get fed up with Kawada real fast.

[Guest razazteca]

The Ultimate Dream Match:

 

X Division vs CMLL stars in a 12 man elimation match in a 6 corner ring with Mike Tenay & Cyrus as announcers

 

Jerry Lynn, AJ Styles, Low Ki, Fallen Angel, Elix Skipper, Redd vs Ultimo Guerrero, Rey Bucannero, Tarzan Boy, Dr Wagner Jr, Black Tiger, Black Warrior

 

let it go at least 45 minutes

[Guest GameCop]

flair v. austin, as stated before, would kick all kinds of ass. an 'i quit' match would probably draw the maximum kickassness from them.

 

Oh Hell Yeah! I would even add a Hell In A Cell with that match! Hell, maybe even some tables. And even bring D-Von, and Buh Buh and add some barb wire, maybe even Big Show! Dude, Seriosly that match would be dope !

[Guest XdojimeX]

"Williams had some very good US work, not just with the Steiners but with Rutunda too. However, his peak would deffinately have to be '93-'94, as he dominated All Japan as a heel foreigner in the tradition of the Bruiser Brodies and Stan Hansens before him. He was just a great heel with the physical intesnity expected of him but also with the smart work that put his opponents over as well. Just a really fantastic wrestler."

 

I'd stretch Williams prime to '95 just for the solid tag work with Ace. Still I think you overate him a bit. I enjoyed Williams as a single more then most but I do think he was very much a product of being in there with the three best workers of the generation more than anything. He certainly developed into his role and worked hard to keep up with the pace they we're setting but IMO he was just as much the 'right worker in the right environment'. I don't think Flair in his prime would know how to work Williams like the AJ trio did. Paint by numbers Flair wouldn't hack it against the Doc.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

I suppose "right guy for the right environment" would be a fair description of Williams in AJPW, but I felt that he fit his role very well and deserves praise for being able to pull it off the way he did.

 

My comment on Flair was simply because Flair seemed akin to working with strong guys and playing off of well. v. Vader seemed like a good example of what Flair could do with a monster heel, but you never know. Maybe he and Doc just wouldn't have gelled.

[Guest XdojimeX]

"I suppose "right guy for the right environment" would be a fair description of Williams in AJPW, but I felt that he fit his role very well and deserves praise for being able to pull it off the way he did."

 

Agreed there. It's admirable he held his own when Baba's boys we're raising the bar year after year. A lot of good gaijin workers out there at that time put in his position might not have faired as well as Williams did, I'll say that much. Still, the AJ 3 we're the ones setting the tone.

 

"My comment on Flair was simply because Flair seemed akin to working with strong guys and playing off of well. v. Vader seemed like a good example of what Flair could do with a monster heel, but you never know. Maybe he and Doc just wouldn't have gelled."

 

Ooh, I'm not very fond of the Vader match. First time I realized Flair was old. Nope, don't like that match at all.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

Agreed, the big 3 were definitely the ones making the big waves, but looking at William's run, it's impressive that he addapted the way he did, unlike someone like Albright who had the one blow-away match with Kawada and then failed to keep up afterwards.

 

I'm not a huge fan of the match either, but seeing as Flair was indeed old at the time, I thought it spoke valumes of how tough the guy was, as he took quite a beating. I think had he not been so old, the beating might have actually worked within the confines of the match, and not so much of an extended squasheroo for Vader. This leads me to believe that Peak Doc vs. Peak Flair might be something special.

[Guest bob_barron]

My dream match-

 

A fatal four way-

 

Bulldog v. Goldust v. Regal v. Perfect

[Guest godthedog]

Bret's the type of guy who would hate working with Kawada. To Bret, working stiff defeats the puprose of wrestling, and thus, he would get fed up with Kawada real fast.

yeah, i know about his reputation with stiff guys, but:

 

a) he had no problem working with dynamite kid, so i imagine he may have been willing to cooperate with kawada just because he was so good

 

B) it's my fantasy

[Guest RickyChosyu]

Bret's the type of guy who would hate working with Kawada. To Bret, working stiff defeats the puprose of wrestling, and thus, he would get fed up with Kawada real fast.

yeah, i know about his reputation with stiff guys, but:

 

a) he had no problem working with dynamite kid, so i imagine he may have been willing to cooperate with kawada just because he was so good

 

B) it's my fantasy

Oh, I've heard the story about Billington potatoing the shit out of Bret, but it began as a "breaking in" excersize that Bret had to accept because he was a rookie, and then afterwards became acceptable due to their friendship. That was just my take on it. Maybe he and Tosh would have torn it up. Guess we'll have to leave it at that.

[Guest Brian]

I would have liked to see the Pilman show match, Benoit/Regal, on a much grander scale (more time) maybe five years earlier or so.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

Yeah, Benoit vs. Regal circa '95 would have been some good shit. I still maintain my request for Peak Regal vs. Takada or Maeda just because he would be such a good foil for them in the spirit of Bob Backlund.

[Guest Brian]

Has anyone said Dynamite/Liger?

[Guest RicFlairGlory]

At this point I think a realistic cool match would be Regal / Finley...

[Guest RickyChosyu]

At this point I think a realistic cool match would be Regal / Finley...

Are you joking or have you just not seen Uncensored '95?

 

*EDIT* Brian: Nope. I supose everyone saw the Benoit matches and realized that those two were kind of the same wrestler, in many ways, and thus, canceled each other out. Not that their matches were bad, just that they always had their classic matches when put against someone who contrasted them, as opposed to reflecting them (Lyger/Ohtani, Benoit/Sasuke, ect). Since Benoit is the descendant of Dynamite, I suppose everyone assumed the same thing would happen if DK and Jushin tore it up. Then again, Benoit/Lyger was always a helluva lot of fun, even if neither guy was doing the best work anyone had seen from him or would see.

 

Actually come to think of it, it's entirely possible that Dynamite tore it up with Lyger when he was still without the gimick as Keichi Yamada. Then again, he hadn't really come into his own yet, and was basically a jobber, so I suppose it wouldn't have a very good chance of being good.

[Guest XdojimeX]

"I still maintain my request for Peak Regal vs. Takada or Maeda just because he would be such a good foil for them in the spirit of Bob Backlund."

 

Too bad Regal didn't have a solid run in Japan. His matches with Hashimoto in NJ we're all sorts of fun. I think a Takada match would've been really nifty. Not sure about Maeda though.

 

Dynamite was already in All Japan by the time Yamada started to work the bigger shows, pretty sure it didn't happen. Liger idolized the guy just as much as Benoit did though. Well maybe not as much, Benoit was the one doing the headbutt off the top to the floor. That's dedication.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

I'm a pretty big mark for Hash, so I've definitely got to track those matches down. Stiffness isn't everything, but with those two, it just makes things all the more fun.

 

The Maeda comment was just because the Backlund matches were all sorts of fun. Then again, Regal is hardly the same as Backlund, he's just got the Carny Shooter goodness about him.

 

Yeah, you can tell Liger was inspired by Dynamite when he pulls out hellacious beatings like BOTSJ '92 vs. Samurai. When he hits the Summersault Senton to Sammy on the floor, I instinctively thought of the "STEROIDS MAKE ME INVINCIBLE!!!" joke that is commonly associated with the Diving Headbutt to the floor spot. I'm sure the Stampede training contributed to their growth as workers, too. What a bunch of wacko's.

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

Yeah, you can tell Liger was inspired by Dynamite when he pulls out hellacious beatings like BOTSJ '92 vs. Samurai.

I just saw that match for the first time a few days ago and it's the ungodly shit. Wild, wild, out of control brawl. They just beat the hell out of each other in that one.

 

It's been mentioned already, but Angle vs. a prime Scott Steiner would be incredible. Both guys about the same size, same weight, willing to do all kinds of stuff, amateur backgrounds...it would rock, to say the least.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

Yeah, that's one of my favorite Juniors matches of all time and definitely a peak moment for Liger as it totally defined who he would become through the next few years. He just wiped the floor with Sammy, and then kicked his ass some more.