Guest nikowwf Report post Posted September 5, 2002 Seems like we have -Brock / Taker - Wow, not only a bad match but Taker's no selling should help kill anything Rock did to help him. -HHH / RVD - The way the WWE booking works, HHH gets his win back. RVD is buried. I hurl objects at the TV. -Flair / Jericho - zzzzzzzz -Some combination of Booker T, Goldust & Kane vs. Unamericans. God, give me a tag title match, put Booker & Dust over and let Kane & Test roam around ringside making faces. Anything but a singles match between them. Not so bad.... -Angle / Benoit - should be very good as long as the booking before the match is decent. No medals in the pants, no bad comedy. Bad Ass Angle turning face against Bad Ass Benoit -Edge / Eddy rematch - Should be good. The first one was pretty good. Not sure who its elevating as their is no backstory. Seems like its keeping Edge where he is and pushing Eddy a little down. -Rey vs. who? He has no real program. Should be good as long as his opponents good, but if there is not story there will be no heat. Wow, what a PPV. I'd be excited about RVD / HHH if i thought there was a chance in hell RVD could go over. Looks like a placeholder PPV that elevates no one. Sigh.... One month after Summerslam we are almost back where we were. Niko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted September 5, 2002 On paper... HHH/RVD Angle/Benoit Eddy/Edge make me want to order. But I won't unless I am given some reason to think that RVD can win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nikowwf Report post Posted September 5, 2002 Its not a bad show, like some of the PPV's this year have been. (KOTR, yuck) But, its not a show that screams out to me and makes me really anticpate it coming in. I really looked forward to Summerslam. This PPV is just not so special. Niko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted September 5, 2002 Benoit/Angle should be pretty good, a Misterio match is always nice (Misterio/Eddy CMON!!! fuck Edge) Taker is a piece O' Shit so I don't see him helping Brock much, and I don't see a good buy rate either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted September 5, 2002 Benoit/Angle will be very good, but it will be the seventh time they have fought on PPV in the last three years (Wrestlemania 2000 w/ Jericho, Insurrextion 2000, Wrestlemania X-7, Backlash 2001, Insurrextion 2001 & Judgment Day 2001), not to mention the high profile Cage Match on RAW in June 2001. Enough is enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest chirs3 Report post Posted September 5, 2002 Brock/Taker - Um... yay? Triple H/RVD - I'd order for this, if only to mark like a little bitch when Rob gets any offense in at all. Eddie/Edge - The commentators have pretty much invented the backstory on this one, since Eddie and Edge never get mic time to rail against each other. Edge wins, fans cheer, and everything's the same the night after. Benoit/Angle - If ever there was a reason to order this god forsaken PPV, this is it. Kane vs Test - Piss break. Jericho vs Flair - Jericho goes over here, but if it's anything like the SummerSlam match... extended piss break. Mysterio vs Whoever - As long as Mysterio doesn't use 90 different pins and only 3 offensive moves, I'll be happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ManKinnd Report post Posted September 5, 2002 Benoit/Angle will be very good, but it will be the seventh time they have fought on PPV in the last three years (Wrestlemania 2000 w/ Jericho, Insurrextion 2000, Wrestlemania X-7, Backlash 2001, Insurrextion 2001 & Judgment Day 2001), not to mention the high profile Cage Match on RAW in June 2001. Enough is enough. You are... not.... serious. You can't be. That's like saying "enough is enough" to Dreamer/Raven or Tajiri/Super Crazy or Rock/Austin or Misawa/Kobashi. WM2000 - **** Insurrection - **** (only saw the normal 2/3 falls one, whichever that is) x7 - ****1/2 Backlash - ***1/2 Judgement Day - ***3/4 Cage Match - ****1/2 I don't see a problem with having another one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mad Dog Report post Posted September 5, 2002 Benoit and Angle is the main reason I'd order. Like bps21 said if there's any hope of RVD winning I'll watch it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted September 5, 2002 I don't see a problem with having another one. Except I can just put in the tape and watch them for free, instead of being forced to pay to watch Test/Kane. I would rather watch something like Benoit/Guerrero, which hasn't happened in a meaningful way for years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AlwaysPissedOff Report post Posted September 5, 2002 I'm interested in this show for 3 reasons: To see if they do the right thing in the Brock/Taker match and put Lesnar over strong. See if they do the RIGHT thing in the probably HHH/RVD match(Trips going over by the skin of his teeth and then jobbing in the rematch next month) or the DUMB thing(RVD wins which means he's gone over the two main heels on RAW multiple times). And finally: To see what they do with the tag titles since the Un-Americans are flat out pussies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mattdotcom Report post Posted September 5, 2002 I'm worried we'll get Kane and Bradshaw defending AMERICA BAH GAWD~! against the tag champs. Booker and Goldust can do a skit. Sometimes I'm glad I can't order PPVs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted September 5, 2002 well, none of those matches are officially signed yet so it's all speculation at this point. we are almost sure they are going for a taker-brock anticlassic and an rvd-hhh showdown but i'll reserve coment until some actual matches are announced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted September 5, 2002 BTW, its not that I am against Angle/Benoit as it will be a great match. It just isn't worth ordering an entire PPV just to see that match anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted September 6, 2002 I predicted three months ago that Brock would be the guy that Taker ultimately puts over before getting out of active competition. I wonder if I'll be proved right or wrong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mole Report post Posted September 6, 2002 I would order the PPV if three things happen: Brock beats Taker clean Benoit/Angle put on a **** RVD beats HHH clean Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ravenbomb Report post Posted September 6, 2002 Enough is Enough? To Raven/Dreamer?! BLASPHEMY!!! And I'd go so far as to give Benoit/Angle from WMX7 *****. I love this new smiley, btw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted September 6, 2002 I don't know the ending of the Angle/Benoit WMX7 match was kinda lame though. Thing with HHH/RVD is...if HHH goes over then he's pretty much killed off all his competition since once beating RVD he's pretty much beaten everyone. Unless they do a super super job of having RVD lose, but still look good. or They could go with a DQ/screwjob ending that sees HHH retain and then have a rematch at No Mercy. But that would kinda ruin the match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EL DANDY~! 0 Report post Posted September 6, 2002 Meh...maybe if HHH and RVD are in another tag match...would HHH get the win there, too? That would really be worth it, becuz RVD goez over at the PPV and stuff...shit. Why don't they have RVD job the title...and then do what APO said...let HHH win by the SLIMMEST of margins, and then have RVD get the title hotshotted to him the next night. It's simple, really, but then... ...this IS the WWE we're talking about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DJ Jeff Report post Posted September 6, 2002 I'm ordering Unforgiven for sure. I don't care what the card is, I'm a WWE fan, therfore, I'm ordering Unforgiven. To be honest, I think Unforgiven will be decent, and Lesnar© vs. the Undertaker should be pretty good, with Lesnar retaining the WWE Title of course. Also, I'm hoping that RVD beats HHH for the World Title. Finally, Angle vs. Benoit would be good to see, especially for the #1 Contender's Spot for the WWE Title at No Mercy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DARRYLXWF Report post Posted September 6, 2002 I'm not ordering because I know for a fact that it's gonna be forgettable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted September 6, 2002 Side note: I'd also order if RVD was in an actual world title match... Even if I knew he would lose...I'd order to see him get the shot. But that's not a real title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted September 6, 2002 Which is the real title then? IF there is no Undisputed Champion and each show is going to have its own world champion and then I'd like to see at WrestleMania the 2 champs go head to head. BUT assuming the split is working that then the winner would float between both shows and would have to defend the RAW belt only on RAW and the Smackdown belt only on Smackdown and he would be a floater till he loses one of the titles. Example if he lost the Smackdown belt and was a RAW wrestler he would no longer be on Smackdown but if he were a Smackdown wrestler he would still float until he lost the RAW belt and then he would go back to Smackdown only. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted September 6, 2002 Brock beat someone for the title...the title holder in fact... so even though I hate it...Brock Lesnar is the WWE champion. The piece of metal they HANDED to HHH last week...is IMO, the most meaningless belt in the company, just behind the womens. I guess we know why they got rid of the HArdcore and Euro titles now... HHH needed a belt to carry around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AlwaysPissedOff Report post Posted September 6, 2002 Why don't they have RVD job the title...and then do what APO said...let HHH win by the SLIMMEST of margins, and then have RVD get the title hotshotted to him the next night. Well, I didn't really say anything about hotshotting it the next night since that would be stupid, booking wise. It'd work better if both of the matches were on PPV so the angle would actually draw money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted September 6, 2002 Ugh... lets see how they TREAT the belt. What if they are going to go with the WCW belt's history? Is it still meaningless? I thought it was a mistake to unify the belts into one title anyways and this is a good way to make up for that mistake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted September 6, 2002 APO is right... If they gave fans the RVD win over HHH on free TV... why in the world would they order ppvs to see the guy they don't want to win go over? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted September 6, 2002 The WCW title lineage meant nothing to me when Booker brought the title over...and it would mean nothing now. As soon as that belt was governed by the WWE, it ceased to be a seperate title IMO. For example: Whereas I consider Russo and Arquette to be WCW champions... Rock, Angle and Jericho...are not. They won the "WCW" title without Competing in a WCW ring, against WCW stars under WCW management. At that point, it was just another WWE title. At least IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redbaron51 Report post Posted September 6, 2002 really though... what was the point of hyping kane up if he is just a mid-carder? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted September 6, 2002 I think we are looking at it wrong. I think WWE sees Test as an upper midcarder... so Kane is too. Sad isn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dangerous A Report post Posted September 6, 2002 I see RVD winning with the help of HBK. RVD gets win over HHH (albeit tainted slightly) ,HHH jobs without losing face, and we get HHH vs HBK 2 at either No Mercy or Survivor Series, which happens to be in the Garden this year. Hmmmmm............. Interesting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
