Is Chretien going senile?

[Guest J*ingus]

Well, Rant, you do have a picture of one particularly threatening Canadian in your sig, after all.

[Guest meanmaisch]

"all that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

 

Its kind of odd seeing that quote being used to justify war. I'm saying this because I'm used to seeing it in quotes by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. He was more or less a pacifist who believed in non-violent resistance.

 

Interesting how a quote like that can be used so many different ways.

[Guest Hogan Made Wrestling]

"all that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."

An accurate description of the American's attitude towards Hitler, up until they got attacked.

[Guest Dames Edna]

I think to gain complete American patriotic pride you have to live there. I perfectly understand that Canada isn't the greatest country in the world - but America isn't right up there either. There is a reason why America got attacked (flame me all you want) but it is because they are arrogant, domineering, and power hungry. There is resentment towards them throughout the world. They justifiably got the support of the western countries after the heinous attacks - and rightfully so. I do not by any means condone these attacks. They were downright horrible, but America must take some responsibility for what happened. One poster said that the American army will make those people pay for their attack. Really, I believe that the army has been pretty passive out there. As reported in Rolling Stone magazine, there really wasn't much action happening out there. The soldiers spent a lot of free time out there instead of fighting.

 

Sorry these are just random points, as I am too lazy to go into further detail. If you want me to, I will. Just 2 more points to close out

 

1. If America isn't downright loathed by the rest of the world, why must Canadians wear Canadian Flags on their backpacks to get treated with actual respect?

 

2. All of you Americans diss Canada - and thats fine. But your country will never disown us, or let us go to waste. Why? They love our oil. they need us, just as badly as we need them. The bonus? We live in a much safer, friendlier, and modest country.

[Guest MrRant]

I think to gain complete American patriotic pride you have to live there.  I perfectly understand that Canada isn't the greatest country in the world - but America isn't right up there either.  There is a reason why America got attacked (flame me all you want) but it is because they are arrogant, domineering, and power hungry.  There is resentment towards them throughout the world.  They justifiably got the support of the western countries after the heinous attacks - and rightfully so.  I do not by any means condone these attacks.  They were downright horrible, but America must take some responsibility for what happened.   One poster said that the American army will make those people pay for their attack.  Really, I believe that the army has been pretty passive out there.  As reported in Rolling Stone magazine, there really wasn't much action happening out there.  The soldiers spent a lot of free time out there instead of fighting.  

 

Sorry these are just random points, as I am too lazy to go into further detail.  If you want me to, I will.  Just 2 more points to close out

 

1. If America isn't downright loathed by the rest of the world, why must Canadians wear Canadian Flags on their backpacks to get treated with actual respect?

 

2. All of you Americans diss Canada - and thats fine.  But your country will never disown us, or let us go to waste.  Why? They love our oil.  they need us, just as badly as we need them.  The bonus? We live in a much safer, friendlier, and modest country.

I honestly think of Canada as the 51st state. When I go to Canada I feel like I'm still in the USA except that there are things in French everywhere. I think most countries are jealous of our success, our wealth, our way of life and our power.

[Guest CanadianChick]

I think to gain complete American patriotic pride you have to live there.  I perfectly understand that Canada isn't the greatest country in the world - but America isn't right up there either.  There is a reason why America got attacked (flame me all you want) but it is because they are arrogant, domineering, and power hungry.  There is resentment towards them throughout the world.  They justifiably got the support of the western countries after the heinous attacks - and rightfully so.  I do not by any means condone these attacks.  They were downright horrible, but America must take some responsibility for what happened.   One poster said that the American army will make those people pay for their attack.  Really, I believe that the army has been pretty passive out there.  As reported in Rolling Stone magazine, there really wasn't much action happening out there.  The soldiers spent a lot of free time out there instead of fighting.  

 

Sorry these are just random points, as I am too lazy to go into further detail.  If you want me to, I will.  Just 2 more points to close out

 

1. If America isn't downright loathed by the rest of the world, why must Canadians wear Canadian Flags on their backpacks to get treated with actual respect?

 

2. All of you Americans diss Canada - and thats fine.  But your country will never disown us, or let us go to waste.  Why? They love our oil.  they need us, just as badly as we need them.  The bonus? We live in a much safer, friendlier, and modest country.

I honestly think of Canada as the 51st state.

You just showed your ignorance in that post.

[Guest MrRant]

Its not ignorance its how I feel whenever I go to Canada. And I used to go quite a bit. At least once a week until I moved to Las Vegas. Its just like America. BC is a bit cleaner and McDonald's has pizza.

 

And no I don't hate Canada.

[Guest CanadianChick]

Sorry, but that post really looked ignorant. It looked like you think that the USA is all that matters and that Canada is inferior than USA. I'm not saying that you are, but that is what it looked like.

[Guest MrRant]

Not inferior but .... it doesn't feel like I left the US when I go there. I feel more like I left the US when I go to California then I do Canada.

[Guest CanadianChick]

I see your point. It is true that Canada and USA are very similar, but there are differences, IMO. I dunno, I just think that Canada feels safer and more relaxed, but that might be a biased point of view.

[Guest MrRant]

Like I said its not a snub its just how it feels to me. Now if I can only find out if the Canucks tickets on the website are in Canadian funds (ie cheap) or American....

[Guest Dames Edna]

All Americans disrespect Canada. The citizens could give two shits about us. Thats fine.

 

Canada isn't the 51st state dude. In this 51st state is the currency the same as the rest of America? No. That is one HUGE difference.

 

I respect Canada because it is a safe place to live. You won't hear about drive-by shooting once a week on a newscast. You won't have people struggling to pay for their surgery because it was too expensive for them. You won't hear about our PM involving our country in a battle that does not belong to us. You will never see conscription in Canada again - sadly, if push came to shove, I would see America resorting to that.

 

I also find it amusing that many Americans think we live on frozen tundra, in 20 feet on snow, occupy igloos, and drive snowmobiles to get to McDonalds. Their pigheadeness showed when a comedian went to America to ask if they know who our PM was, and they had no idea. Thats just downright ignorant and insulting.

[Guest MrRant]

We don't know because we honestly don't pay attention to Canada. At least I don't because nothing happens there. Canada is just... there. Perhaps if you read my additional posts you wouldn't have gotten your panties all up in a bunch you jackass. No wonder people don't give a shit about what you have to say.

 

And if we are going to start insulting people from one country.

 

How come sooooo many Canadians park and stay multiple nights behind K-MART?! Is a blue light special that important to them?

[Guest Kibagami]

We had nothing to do with bin Laden specifically. We funded some factions of the Afghan revolt against the Soviets, but bin Laden's group wasn't one of them. Neither was the Taliban. That's a myth constructed by the historically ignorant.

Could you cite some examples of this? Everything I've ever read on the subject cites bin Laden as being a recipent of CIA funding via the mujahadeen during the Afghan/Soviet war. I've never heard the allegation that this is false, and I'm curious as to how you came across this information...

 

S.

[Guest Dames Edna]

No, it just shows your ignorance and lack of concern about anything not involving yourselves. Hence why America is considered arrogant.

[Guest treble charged]

The only time that I can remember US networks covering a big event in Canada was the 1995 Quebec referendum, and even that waited until the last few days before the vote.

[Guest CanadianChick]

I also find it amusing that many Americans think we live on frozen tundra, in 20 feet on snow, occupy igloos, and drive snowmobiles to get to McDonalds. Their pigheadeness showed when a comedian went to America to ask if they know who our PM was, and they had no idea. Thats just downright ignorant and insulting.

I was at a swim meet once and there were only 2 Canadian teams there, so the guys from both the teams convinced this lifeguard chick that we drove around in skidoos, we only played hockey, curling and ice fishing and that we mainly ate blubber and fish. And she actually believed them...

 

Didn't that comic convince those Americans that Tim Hortons was our PM?

[Guest MrRant]

No, it just shows your ignorance and lack of concern about anything not involving yourselves. Hence why America is considered arrogant.

So because we don't pay attention to you makes us ignorant? There is no need to spend media time on Canada. You aren't a threat, there isn't anything going on that affects us that much so why the fuck would we devote air time to you?

[Guest CanadianChick]

No, it just shows your ignorance and lack of concern about anything not involving yourselves.  Hence why America is considered arrogant.

So because we don't pay attention to you makes us ignorant? There is no need to spend media time on Canada. You aren't a threat, there isn't anything going on that affects us that much so why the fuck would we devote air time to you?

I'm just wondering, but why don't American schools teach some Canadian history? It ties in with the history of USA, so why not?

 

 

And if you do learn Canadian history, sorry I did not know that.

[Guest MrRant]

I learned parts because of where I lived (Bellingham, WA) and I went to the fort up in Vancouver BC and learned all about settlers in the area but that is about it.

 

But... the reason for more American and European teaching is that is where are heritage is.

[Guest Dames Edna]

So don't devote time to Canada because we aren't a threat? Another example of arrogance. You guys have no problem taking our oil, and other natural resources.

 

Its funny, Canada and the USA used to be the same. That was until the Americans revolted against the English thus setting out the boundries. American now, from my knowledge, does not pay homage to England at all anymore. While in Canada, we still respect both English and French. There may sometimes be disagreements, but there is a reason why Quebec has never branched off.

 

Rant, igorance is when you don't know any better. The word fits perfectly with the fact that many Americans don't know any better than to atleast learn the NAME of our PM.

[Guest MrRant]

So don't devote time to Canada because we aren't a threat? Another example of arrogance. You guys have no problem taking our oil, and other natural resources.

 

Its funny, Canada and the USA used to be the same. That was until the Americans revolted against the English thus setting out the boundries. American now, from my knowledge, does not pay homage to England at all anymore. While in Canada, we still respect both English and French. There may sometimes be disagreements, but there is a reason why Quebec has never branched off.

 

Rant, igorance is when you don't know any better. The word fits perfectly with the fact that many Americans don't know any better than to atleast learn the NAME of our PM.

Why is it important to know who your PM is? Do you know who is incharge of Liechtenstein? No. Because it doesn't matter.

 

We aren't part of England anymore. We study European history but that is it. We didn't want to live under their rule so that is why we broke away. And why pay homage to people who tried to keep you under their rule and sent an army over? You guys have no problem coming down to shop at Wal-Mart, K-Mart, watch American TV, buy American products.

[Guest CanadianChick]

Well Rant, you guys don't have any problem taking our natural resources.

[Guest MrRant]

Your government sells it to us. Blame them. Its not like we walked up and took it without telling anyone.

[Guest CanadianChick]

We buy your products from your government, so listen to your own advice,

[Guest Dames Edna]

Yes, we are spoonfed American culture - and that is fine. But atleast we have the decency to know about your political set-up, how it works, and its history.

 

Well Rant, I am sure your interpretation of history invovling the British and Americans is much different than mine. I was taught what I know with an English bias, while you were taught what you know with an American-slant. My point is that we were the same. Why not learn SOMETHING about your *brothers* north of the border? Oh ya, your countries patriotic stubborness will not put any nation on a plane remotly close to yours. That is my point. You can play any other card you want - but this is a FACT. And don't give me shit that its because we don't offer you anything, or are not a threat - because thats just assinine.

[Guest MrRant]

I have no problem with Canadians buying our products. It means more jobs for Americans.

[Guest CanadianChick]

I have no problem with Canadians buying our products. It means more jobs for Americans.

OKay so first you say "You guys have no problem coming down to shop at Wal-Mart, K-Mart, watch American TV, buy American products. "

 

And now you say you think that it is a good thing.

 

 

The first post was made to look like you disapproved that we buy your products. Please make up your mind.

[Guest Dames Edna]

I see Rant. So are you gonna say that American culture is right when they support child labour camps for your "American companies" by buying Gap or Nike products. Because it will mean more money for the already bloody rich Americans.

[Guest MrRant]

Yes, we are spoonfed American culture - and that is fine. But atleast we have the decency to know about your political set-up, how it works, and its history.

 

Well Rant, I am sure your interpretation of history invovling the British and Americans is much different than mine. I was taught what I know with an English bias, while you were taught what you know with an American-slant. My point is that we were the same. Why not learn SOMETHING about your *brothers* north of the border? Oh ya, your countries patriotic stubborness will not put any nation on a plane remotly close to yours. That is my point. You can play any other card you want - but this is a FACT. And don't give me shit that its because we don't offer you anything, or are not a threat - because thats just assinine.

There is no nation that is on a even plane with us. How are you trying to compare? Militarily Canada isn't anywhere close. The last country that was like that was the USSR and now possibly China by sheer numbers. There is nothing wrong with being Patriotic. Its called pride in oneself and their country. I don't think Canadian people are inferior as people. My fiancee has Canadian relatives and I go up there regulary. But.... that said there is no reason for me to know who your PM is because he doesn't affect our country.