Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted September 23, 2002 We all know the restrictive binding movesets that just suffocates the talents of alot of the WWE wrestlers. a Few manage to squeak by moves during PPV time. Chavo Guerrero, the man who hit the Emerald Fusion months ago, then went on a jobbing spree afterwards, manage to hit a Canadian back rack drop on Rey. And of course Rey unloaded his own arsenal.Both Chavo and Eddy seem to get around the moveset restrictions a little bit. Regal, Managed something resembling a Soviet Suplex, ( A Rock bottom hold into a Suplex) Was soo Hoping that Benoit during that stream of German Suplexes he and Angle was doing, just Bust out a Dragon Suplex just to end the stalemate of Germans. I believe that the WWE shows would get at least a little interesting if they let up on moveset restrictions to those who know how to hit the more exotic moves. What do you think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest art_vandelay Report post Posted September 23, 2002 I'd don't think you'd get any disagreement from this board. People have frowned upon the WWE's style of limited movesets for a long time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted September 23, 2002 Move.... set? Fo sheez, Kotzenjunge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted September 23, 2002 the 5 move maximin does not get me all excited Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest myburninghammer Report post Posted September 23, 2002 As long as we're on the subject, what is it in particular about the backdrop suplex that the WWE has such a hard on for? It's one thing for Benoit to do it--since it's been in his arsenal for 10 years--but it looks ridiculous when Rosey or the Big Show are doing it...why would they want everybody to do the same five moves that HHH and 'Taker know? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BifEverchad Report post Posted September 23, 2002 The recent use of the 'Shining Wizard'by the Hurricane had me surprised... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evilhomer Report post Posted September 23, 2002 The WWE should realize that their workers are professionals and should be able to choose the style they want to work. I understand restrictions on two curtain jerkers, but the entire roster is stuck with a limited moveset. Injuries happen, you can just as easily get hurt walking across the ring as you can taking a piledriver. If two workers sufficiently practice a move, and are willing to use it, they should be allowed to. The main eventers may not like having their thunder stolen, but maybe it would be a kick in their ass telling them that they've got to shape up and get out of the same old rut. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dace59 Report post Posted September 23, 2002 The recent use of the 'Shining Wizard'by the Hurricane had me surprised... Really, is surprises me even more. As he's just doing an Running Enziguri. It's based off Jimmy Yang's running flying leg lariat. Go find a SW clip. Regal, Managed something resembling a Soviet Suplex (the Sambo suplex in games) I think he's going for a Urange (Hase's versionm, bot the Judo throw version) It's a softer version of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Perfect_Bo Report post Posted September 23, 2002 When he said that injuries does happen when just walking across the ring...look at what happen to HHH and Nash, just be running across the ring...Did you see what happen when Bubba Ray was picking Storm up to put on the turnbuckle...Dudley didnt held him up well, thus making Lance Storm fall and land on top of his freaking head.. Yeah, Injuries happen all the time... I say if you work on em' let them use it...talk about it before you do it and everything will be ok. Bo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dace59 Report post Posted September 23, 2002 Head Dropping is fine and safe it you know what's coming, are ready for it, are able to protect or role and are willing to go with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CED Ordonez Report post Posted September 23, 2002 In an era where big name superstars are being injured by walking, anybody else notice the severe lack of "HE'S WALKING!" clips right before the commercial break? I'd mark out heavily if the WWE put Kevin Nash's most infamous walking moment in their "Don't Try This At Home" spot. I really don't have a problem with the current movesets as wrestlers have shown they can wrestle beyond the "punch-kick-spinebuster" affair. I don't find movesets as constrictive as some people believe, but I do agree that seeing new imported moves would be an exciting thing to keep my attention on the WWE after seeing perhaps the worst PPV Main Event this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the 1inch punch Report post Posted September 23, 2002 I say Let Helms do the Vertebreaker Preferably to Matt Hardy No, doing it AJ Styles on Velocity doesnt count Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dace59 Report post Posted September 23, 2002 And are you hoping he tries to take it like Kidman did? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EL DANDY~! 0 Report post Posted September 23, 2002 I am really hoping that people don't go crazy over the head bumping a la All Japan in the 90s. Head bumping is fine as long as there is ONE head bump that absolutely makes sure the match is over right there. Otherwise, it just looks so hokey and stupid that nobody will buy it. I really want to see Eddy hit a Sheer Drop Brainbuster instead of his layed-out version. Death Valley Driver, anybody? Why am I not seeing that move any more? It just seems really stupid to me that moves focused on the head and neck don't get attention any more. It was an integral part of psychology when you think about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dace59 Report post Posted September 23, 2002 Brainbuster are back bumps unless stupidly stiff or messed up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted September 23, 2002 First the backdrop Suplex, is one of the easiest Suplexes to do evidently. Its more like a Counter than a full Offensive move. secondly... the paranold nature of the WWE on their moves is so....stupid, the most series Injuries in recent memory is caused My either someone clothesling another too hard, have a weight lifting Snafu, or TRIPPING across the ring! Don Muroco, Dino Bravo, Paul Orindorf, and other old timers manage to get through their careers Hitting and getting hit by Piledrivers....Ahhh but they didn't have the HHH screwing the bosses daughter at the time to spoil wrestling for everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted September 23, 2002 I miss the sheer drop brainbuster. That there is a thing of beauty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted September 23, 2002 Heres a futile excercise. Make a list of Moves and wrestlers you want to see hit the moves and then email it to the feedback section of the WWE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted September 23, 2002 Death Valley Driver, anybody? Why am I not seeing that move any more? When Dreamer was on Heat Duty, he did it to Credible, Richards and the like. Last time it was used prominently was No Mercy '00 between Benoit & HHH, where HHH used it to counter out of Benoit's Crossface. God that match rocked the house. HHH ruled....now he just sucks it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest myburninghammer Report post Posted September 23, 2002 Trivia, I got no qualms with backdrop suplexes--much as I'd rather see Benoit bust out a dragon suplex--but I do have problems with its excessive use as part of the "WWE required and boring offense" routine. Last night, for example, it was ridiculous that it was the only power move done by Rosey and Jamal prior to their finishers (that full-nelson into a flatliner and the press samoan drop); instead of being made to look like monsters with strong power or double team moves, they looked like any other hastily put-together WWE tag team. That's just regressive and idiotic booking. But as long as I have Dace here...what do you call that move R & J did to Jeff Hardy some weeks back, where they picked him up as if to carry him, flipped him over and then sort of face planted him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest deadbeater Report post Posted September 23, 2002 You saw what happened between Bubba Ray Dudley and Lance Storm at the beginning of the 8-man match? Bubba tried to do a back suplex, Lance tried to flip to his feet but got stuck mid-flip. Bubba, realizing that it would have been a straight, unprotected head drop, landed softly with Lance. It looked like a botch move I saw from a women's match years back, only that the flipper landed hard on her shoulders and head. Ouch!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted September 23, 2002 Chris Benoit: Dragon Suplex, Front suplex onto the top rope. Chris Jericho: That top rope Jawjacker Eddie Guerrero: That High Angle Brainbuster, how about a Thunder fire Powerbomb Chavo: Bust out that Emerald Fusion again Someone can do a Fricken Phoenix Splash can't they? even Funaki could bust out his Old pattoned Fisherman's Buster can't he? I've been seeing Jazz do it, why can't the #1 Smackdown Announcer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest deadbeater Report post Posted September 23, 2002 Molly: The Mollifier: Indian deathlock to a cattle mutilation variation. Trish: The Stratus Quoah: a floatover Diamond Cutter/stunner. Jazz: Mood Indigo Driver: That back suplex to a driver move Bubba almost did to Storm last night, except she does it on purpose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the 1inch punch Report post Posted September 23, 2002 I sayeth Again Shane Helms-Vertebreaker Shannon Moore-Bottoms Up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EL DANDY~! 0 Report post Posted September 23, 2002 Bottoms up should be THE MOVE for Shannon. That move rocks, and it's the same move anybody takes from MR. BILLYASS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted September 23, 2002 The recent use of the 'Shining Wizard'by the Hurricane had me surprised... That would be the KNEE NUDGE OF CERTAIN DAMNATION, BAH GAWD~!, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EL DANDY~! 0 Report post Posted September 24, 2002 That would be right...and I think since nobody likes calling it the Shining Enzuigiri, why not just call it the SHINING HURRICANE like I do in my Velocity report? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted September 24, 2002 don't forget Edge and His Electric Chair Suplexes these days....Whatever happen to the figure four EDGElock? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BlackRainbow1025 Report post Posted September 24, 2002 I want to see Eddie do his Black Tiger Bomb again (it's not high risk, I just want to see it). Hurricane's move is NOT the Shining Wizard, but I like it regardless. Funaki also did the Diamond Dust, a personal favorite of mine. Benoit's Avalanche Tombstone and Dragon Suplex would be great to see as well. I say let whoever's willing to take head drops, take 'em. As long as it doesn't get out of hand, much like All Japan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dace59 Report post Posted September 24, 2002 Helm's isn't even doing a Shinning Enzerguir, that's Darkness Dragon's Shinning Apprentic, go compear clips off the two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
