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Something Else We Can Blame HHH For

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Guest Sandman9000

From 1bob's payshit via LoP

 

Triple H is the reason there will no longer be an IC title after the No Mercy PPV. Originally WWE had planned to make the IC title RAW's top title but Triple H refused to be IC champion because he felt it’s beneath him and wanted to have a world championship on the level of Brock Lesner's World championship.

 

 

 

 

Number of people amazed and shocked at this fact, raise your hands.

 

Hmmmm, why do I see nothing?

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Add another REALLY to your title, dood. That would SO make sense, becuase HHH is above everything, ya know. I think that's something Nova DIDN'T invent...wow...

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Guest snowfan
Add another REALLY to your title, dood. That would SO make sense, becuase HHH is above everything, ya know. I think that's something Nova DIDN'T invent...wow...

Well-uh I don't-uh want to reunify-uh the belts-uh when I lose-uh Vince...

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Guest BoboBrazil

HHH has the most power of any wrestler ever in the WWE. I don't even think Undertaker has this much pull. It is getting ridiculous.

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Guest JHawk

Christ, Hogan in his heyday didn't have this much pull. And Hogan would do a job once in a while to build a feud, even if it was a countout job.

 

I don't care if he's fucking the boss' daughter or not, somebody needs to put a stop to this shit.

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Guest IB2BLACK

Where is the proof? These so called internet sites, just put stuff out there, with no proff or fact to back it up? That's like saying; "Vince is a racist" & "Undertaker is gay". Are they supposed to be journalists? Or do they feel any story involving HHH, is always going to be negative.

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Guest BoboBrazil

How many reports do you need before you start believing it is true? Even if you don't believe the reports you have to see what is happening on tv.

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Guest candie45

It's really funny how Triple H was the ONLY champion that was a possibility for Raw and that everything revolves around him and what he wants.

 

Wait, no it's not.

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Guest BoboBrazil

Going over the entire roster basically, being the main focus of storylines, never losing a blowoff to a feud, having Steph write how great HHH is in wrestlers' scripts like Flair and Bischoff so they give him verbal blowjobs on air, getting his own world title brought back for him after it was finally starting to mean something when Brock won it, the list goes on and on.

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Guest Goodear

You know, with RAW and Smackdown being totally seperate entities (if it is actually the case), it does make a certain amount of sense to have two world titles, so it doesn't seem as though one brand is intrinsically better than the other (even if it is).

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Guest Kahran Ramsus

I don't care much about a new World Title or the elimination of the IC, but it should have been won in a fucking match. Build a tournament over a couple months. Do something. Right now it looks as if noone even wants the HHH title. If the wrestlers don't care about it, why should the fans?

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Guest AndrewTS

I do believe that a Raw title should have been created. BUT, it should have been won in a match as well, maybe even a mini-tourney, even though HHH would still have won the fucking thing.

 

Still...a 54 year old Ric Flair, Spike Dudley, that other little guy who HHH beat with a sleeper who I can't remember since I didn't bother watching, Bubba, D'Lo? DO THESE SOUND LIKE WORLD TITLE CONTENDERS TO YOU?! Okay, D'Lo maybe if he was pushed correctly. HGH may as well have just used the Intercontinental, then.

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Guest Kahran Ramsus

I know HHH would still win, but we aren't talking about that. We are talking about how just handing him the title gives no credibility to it.

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Guest snowfan
Or they could have had a tournament in some remote part of South America...

poetic justice...

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Guest razazteca

why did RVD lose Jericho who lost to Kane who will lose to HHH?

 

why did Kane win TLC4 by himself and still remain champ even though he did nothing? Then HHH comes out with a murder angle after the gimmick match?

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From 1bob's payshit via LoP

 

Triple H is the reason there will no longer be an IC title after the No Mercy PPV. Originally WWE had planned to make the IC title RAW's top title but Triple H refused to be IC champion because he felt it’s beneath him and wanted to have a world championship on the level of Brock Lesner's World championship.

To be fair, that doesn't really say anything about how HHH is responsible for getting rid of the IC Title. It just says he wanted a new title, not that he wanted to get rid of the IC.

 

If he did want to get rid of the IC, though...there's no reason for that, it doesn't make sense. Fuck him if that's the case. There's room for two belts.

 

Going over the entire roster basically,

The going over the roster is a little iffy now that he's a heel IMO. He had to do some major cheating to beat D'Lo last night.

 

being the main focus of storylines

Right now, that's justified sine he's the champ. He was barely on the show last night.

 

getting his own world title brought back for him after it was finally starting to mean something when Brock won it

It was "finally starting to mean something" when Brock won it? I don't think there was ever a point where he UC didn't mean something.

 

You know, with RAW and Smackdown being totally seperate entities (if it is actually the case), it does make a certain amount of sense to have two world titles, so it doesn't seem as though one brand is intrinsically better than the other (even if it is).

This makes sense. After all, the IC champ at the time Brock decided to keep the UC was Rob Van Dam, who Brock had already beaten once. That just made the IC look even more inferior. Was the IC Title ever put over as meaning more than the World Title pre-split? No, so that means it already had a stigma against it that it probably wouldn't have been able to overcome.

 

I don't care much about a new World Title or the elimination of the IC, but it should have been won in a fucking match.  Build a tournament over a couple months.  Do something.

Geez, calm down! :P It was part of the storyline that he was just handed the belt. It could be HHH being smart with us, though...

 

Right now it looks as if noone even wants the HHH title.  If the wrestlers don't care about it, why should the fans?

Bubba seemed to want it, and he said everybody else wanted a piece of HHH.

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From 1bob's payshit via LoP

 

Triple H is the reason there will no longer be an IC title after the No Mercy PPV. Originally WWE had planned to make the IC title RAW's top title but Triple H refused to be IC champion because he felt it’s beneath him and wanted to have a world championship on the level of Brock Lesner's World championship.

 

 

 

 

Number of people amazed and shocked at this fact, raise your hands.

 

Hmmmm, why do I see nothing?

And...he didn't mind being IC champion BEFORE his injury.

 

Injury= Over-inflated Ego?

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Guest Zero_Cool
From 1bob's payshit via LoP

 

Triple H is the reason there will no longer be an IC title after the No Mercy PPV. Originally WWE had planned to make the IC title RAW's top title but Triple H refused to be IC champion because he felt it’s beneath him and wanted to have a world championship on the level of Brock Lesner's World championship.

 

 

 

 

Number of people amazed and shocked at this fact, raise your hands.

 

Hmmmm, why do I see nothing?

And...he didn't mind being IC champion BEFORE his injury.

 

Injury= Over-inflated Ego?

I think it may have been not only because of the injury, but the U2 music videos that went along with the injury.

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Guest Midnight Express83

IC title has been dead. Ever since Chyna had it around her waist the title was dead.

 

Number of IC champs in the last 3 years to mean anything world title wise?

 

1 and thats HHH. only because he was a past world champ.

 

The IC title can rot in hell. If they want a new title they can just make a new one people. it isn't that hard.

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Guest AndrewTS
IC title has been dead. Ever since Chyna had it around her waist the title was dead.

 

Number of IC champs in the last 3 years to mean anything world title wise?

 

1 and thats HHH. only because he was a past world champ.

 

The IC title can rot in hell. If they want a new title they can just make a new one people. it isn't that hard.

Jericho, Angle, RVD, and Eddy come to mind. And do you know WHY they haven't moved on to being credible world champs or champs at all? Or WHY Chyna was allowed to have the damn title in the first place? It isn't just HGH either, because Albert was handed the IC title as well--you know, JR's boy? Storm had it but didn't do much with it. Jeff Hardy was treated like a 3rd rate jobber by HGH, too (and I don't even like him). Regal had his face up Vince's ass, so he can share some blame too.

 

I guess this is just HGH finishing off the job he partly started. However, the IC should have been respectable right now, but we can't have that, can we? We can't have a secondary singles title on Raw, huh?

 

And yes they can make another title, but why needlessly kill off one they have with such a long lineage?

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Guest Redhawk

Triple H's pre-injury IC title run was during Steve Austin's WWF title run.

 

Now HHH may be running shit now, but even he knew good and God damn well that he'd never have say-so over Stone Cold.

 

Plus, after Angle's weak first title reign, having Austin with the belt made it more respectable, and therefore it'd be a bigger prize when HHH won it again.

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Guest subliminal_animal
And...he didn't mind being IC champion BEFORE his injury.

 

Injury= Over-inflated Ego?

But there was still a world title he could conceivably go for when that happened, so there goes your point.

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Guest Brian

And he was basically doing it because he was being guaranteed a world title run and face turn later.

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Guest godthedog
And he was basically doing it because he was being guaranteed a world title run and face turn later.

when was this promised? i don't think the plan to turn him face came till after the injury, i heard that he was supposed to feud with chris benoit over the summer while jericho feuded with austin & that was as far ahead as they were planning.

 

also, why would trips have even WANTED a face turn at that point? he's always known he plays a much better heel & is more comfortable in the role, and he'd been the company's number one heel basically for the last year & a half.

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Guest Brian

The evnetual outcome was Trips was supposed to meet Austin at SummerSlam and each would feud with Benoit and Jericho respectively, in holder feuds. Trips would then get the win; the title reign length was unknown at the time, but no more than a month probably as Rock was set to beat Austin at WrestleMania. That was the original plan.

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