Guest Your Olympic Hero Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Hopefully they will pull a Hogan and do a thing where Brock "ends Taker's career" (atleast until Wrestlemania, PLEASE) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FeArHaVoC Report post Posted October 19, 2002 I'm saying Bust. Even though, I wouldn't be shocked if Matt did take the bump. There wasn't a Big bump in the last HIAC with HHH/Jericho, and that was a main reason why I think many didn't like the Match. I liked the Match. I enjoyed watching them stiff the piss out of each other. I also see Bitista (However you spell it) helping Triple H beat Kane. Didn't JR mention there might be another match added to the PPV? Hopefully, Noble Vs Someone. Anyway, the Under/Mid-Card looks good so I'm getting the PPV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RenegadeX28 Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Well, I am looking forward to No Mercy a little.... The matches that I want to see.... -Taker vs Brock (Hey, Hell in the Cell, it is Lesnar's first HIAC, and with his extreme power this could be a good match) -Angle/Benoit vs Rey/Edge (I am looking forward to this match the most! This is gonna be match of the night!!) -I want just ONE DOSE of Mattitude!!! His entrance friggin rules..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted October 19, 2002 I don't think it can be as bad as AngleSault wants to be. Brock is going after the hand this match and he'll prohbably build around to the ribs. It's all Undertaker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted October 19, 2002 I also see Bitista (However you spell it) helping Triple H beat Kane. JR: BAH GAWD King, who is that women running down the aisle? King: Oh my god JR- that looks like a women. PUPPIES! H-L-A! H-L-A! JR: BAH GAWD she looks like a Hossette and if I wasn't a closet homosexual I would want to smother her with BBQ Sauce. King: Maybe it's Katie Vick. She can do some HLA with Trish and her puppies. I'm having a hard on for this match- get it JR- hard on! ("Katie" runs in with a sledgehammer and lays out Kane, pedigree pin) JR: MAH GAWD DAMNIT! THUN OF A BITCH ALMIGHTY DAMNIT THUN OF A BITCH! You would think she would forgive him BAH GAWD. King: Dawn Marie meets Torrie- PUPPIES! ("Katie" peels off her makeup and is revealed to be-) JR: AWW THUN OF A BITCH- I knew it was Batista- He is a hoss bah gawd I tell ya- One day I tell ya boomer bah gawd sooner- he's gonna main event Wrestlemania with Albert and Mark Henry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Superstar Report post Posted October 19, 2002 I'm personally looking forward to the payoff that could possibly justify this HHH/Kane soap opera crap. My guess is that Katie Fick never died at all, she was just in shock for 10 years, she makes a run-in, poses, and spits Kane's SEMEN (fermented in her stomach for a decade) all back in his face, then starts singing "OOOH! tainted lo-ove..." while doing the Rikishi dance with Trips as we fade to black. Best. Post. In recent memory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Well, I am looking forward to No Mercy a little.... The matches that I want to see.... -Taker vs Brock (Hey, Hell in the Cell, it is Lesnar's first HIAC, and with his extreme power this could be a good match) No Way in hell will this match be good. No way in hell. Besides a long boring bearhug sequence, I have a horrible feeling we'll see a wrist lock or hammer lock sequence run into the ground. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RenegadeX28 Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Well, I am looking forward to No Mercy a little.... The matches that I want to see.... -Taker vs Brock (Hey, Hell in the Cell, it is Lesnar's first HIAC, and with his extreme power this could be a good match) No Way in hell will this match be good. No way in hell. Besides a long boring bearhug sequence, I have a horrible feeling we'll see a wrist lock or hammer lock sequence run into the ground. Maybe it will turn out to be an ok match, but at least have a highspot, that is all I want..... F5 through cell.....damn........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly Report post Posted October 19, 2002 I, for one, am not. No Mercy looks like it could be the worst PPV of 2002. And this is from someone who thought 2002 was a good year for the WWF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Si82 Report post Posted October 19, 2002 I am looking forward to it as I get to watch it for free...free...free! I get if for free too...but I'm still not looking forward to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Well, I am looking forward to No Mercy a little.... The matches that I want to see.... -Taker vs Brock (Hey, Hell in the Cell, it is Lesnar's first HIAC, and with his extreme power this could be a good match) No Way in hell will this match be good. No way in hell. Besides a long boring bearhug sequence, I have a horrible feeling we'll see a wrist lock or hammer lock sequence run into the ground. Maybe it will turn out to be an ok match, but at least have a highspot, that is all I want..... F5 through cell.....damn........ How can it be good? How? Brock hasn't had a good match since August. Taker hasn't had a good match since July. Put them into a match with high expectations, and it's a recipe for disaster. And another thing. Stop comparing Brock now to Angle before he fought Jericho and Benoit. Even then, Angle put on pretty good matches. Brock has yet to have ONE good match that doesn't involve Rock. Come on already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Angle wrestled about three months before going in with Benoit and Jericho and he had yet to show any greatness at that point. Up until SummerSlam of last year he hadn't proved anything really. Every Brock match to you is by default bad; I doubt you even watch them at all. His first really decent match was against Jericho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 19, 2002 He showed some promise the whole time though. Some of his matches were pretty good, or at least decent. He rarely had a BAD match. Brock has had seven bad matches in a row. Every Brock match to you is by default bad; I doubt you even watch them at all. I've watched every match since Cena and every match up to Summerslam. None have been good. All have been next to unwatchable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Lesnar-Taker could be good, eh? All logical human thinking suggests otherwise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted October 19, 2002 He had a very good match with Bubba Ray back in May and I enjoyed the two matches he had with RVD (one on RAW, Vengeance). But I don't see HIAC being any good. It will just be a punch fest with Cole and Tazz talking about the intensity of hiac Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted October 19, 2002 None of the matches themselves have been unwatchable. The dreaded bearhug spot, I can admit to that. But that's more of a problem with the booking and the face. When he's wrestling guys like Cena and Orton who don't play good faces and just get caught in the hold and don't fight or anything to try to get the crowd into it, Brock busts out the short roll-ups and the intermediary elbows to the back. He works a fine Mid-South, don't run the ropes, Valentine-esque style and he's gotten alot smoother in the ring with transitions, especially his little dueling Kanemoto belly-to-belly and the way he just seems to build off his other moves and work into his next. He leans into everything, he bumps like hell, he's shown good body part psychology, he's got ag reat grasp of transitions and layering in his offense. His main problem right now is just learning how to work the crowd beter; and that's another part of why the bearhug isn't working. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Of course it won't be good; that would involve selling on Taker's part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeputyHawk Report post Posted October 19, 2002 brock is gonna be great in one or two years. absolutely great. the argument for him being this generation's mabel is just stupid. but the argument for the belt being put on him too soon has validity. he still has a lot of learning to do (ie, as brian stated, how to work a crowd) and that learning should have been done before he rose to the pinnacle of the company. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Oh yeah, definately they put the belt on him early. But writing off all his matches and carrying a clear bias is not the way to treat it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 19, 2002 But that's more of a problem with the booking and the face. When he's wrestling guys like Cena and Orton who don't play good faces Yes, Because I remember in the Angle/cena match, Angle just totally took the match to a grinding halt and slapped the ankle lock on Cena for Five minutes. Oh, no that didn't happen did it? But I thought Brock was 'The next Angle, BAH GAWD, PUSH HIM PUSH HIM PUSH HIM" and stuff. He leans into everything, he bumps like hell, he's shown good body part psychology I will always saying that good bumping is no reason to give the guy the world title, but we've been through this. And, like I said, working the ribs isn't exactly rocket science. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeputyHawk Report post Posted October 19, 2002 it is daft to write him off yes, he's clearly got a lot of talent, though i can see why a lot of people would be frustrated by him getting the nod as champion over other more capable wrestlers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Oh yeah, definately they put the belt on him early. But writing off all his matches and carrying a clear bias is not the way to treat it. Okay, I'll give him one last chance. If he has a goosd match on Sunday, I'll lighten up on the guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted October 19, 2002 But he's being pushed to use that hold. Like I've said before, if it weren't the case and Vince had a problem with it he'd be screaming at the gorilla position to the ref to have him break the hold, and that's not the case. Knowing how to layer your offense while working a body part is not that easy. Never said bumping was a reason to give him the title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeputyHawk Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Yes, Because I remember in the Angle/cena match, Angle just totally took the match to a grinding halt and slapped the ankle lock on Cena for Five minutes. Oh, no that didn't happen did it? But I thought Brock was 'The next Angle, BAH GAWD, PUSH HIM PUSH HIM PUSH HIM" and stuff. that's because angle's a lot more experienced than brock at this stage of his career and can carry a match, whereas brock is still learning to finetune his craft. this doesn't mean he sucks as a wrestler, just that he's green and that the bookers made a mistake in rocketing him to the top too fast. but they took the plunge with him now, so he's just having to learn on the job. give him a little time, and he'll be one of the best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 19, 2002 give him a little time, and he'll be one of the best. I've GIVEN HIM TIME. I've gien him from his debut to the time he won the title. No improvement. Shit since then. Not much from a guy who is "OMG OMG OMG LIKE FOUR BENOITS! PUT HIM OVER EVERYONE, OMG~!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeputyHawk Report post Posted October 19, 2002 it's only been 6 months since his official debut though. angle wasn't great at that point, and had holes in his game, though he was still clearly showing a ton of potential, the same as lesnar is. i do see improvements in his work, as has been said already his transitions are becoming very natural instead of just standing about doing the dancing hamster shoulder jig as he used to. he looks a lot meaner too, he just used to look like he was concentrating on not being nervous too hard to do anything else. he has the tools, it just takes time. it would be completely unreasonable to expect him to fart out ***** classics within 6 months of his debut. you're giving him one more chance for this sunday against taker - then ... what? you're gonna axe him from the roster or something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 19, 2002 it's only been 6 months since his official debut though. And he's champion. He should not suck BEFORE he wins the belt. Hell he's just finally getting over, two months after he won. Unacceptable. you're giving him one more chance for this sunday against taker - then ... what? you're gonna axe him from the roster or something? Then I know that I've given him every chance I could, and he's failed every time. He obviously isn't "A White Eddy Guerrero, OMG how dare you say you don't want him as champion?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DeputyHawk Report post Posted October 19, 2002 what are those bizarre pro-brock quotes you are using? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 19, 2002 What? Are you saying that I can't use pro brock quotes? HOW DARE YOU! after all, he's "Like Jericho on speed, I mean he's the best wrestler to ever grace the company!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Everyone else has come to terms with it except AngleSault. How sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites