Guest DeputyHawk Report post Posted October 19, 2002 someone needs a mug of cocoa and a lie down. i have no idea if you're quoting someone from this board or what, but you're making very little sense. i do know that angle dreams of having lesnar's neck musculature and cranial follicle development. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted October 19, 2002 This board needs an easy reference list of all of AS's current grudges. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest teke184 Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Here's the quick reference list: Kane Test Edge Lesnar Anyone who gets a feud with Angle or a push over Angle's position in the company. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Here's the quick reference list: Anyone who gets a feud with Angle or a push over Angle's position in the company. It it's an undeserved push like Kane or Lesnar, than yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted October 19, 2002 My problem with the Lesnar v. Cena, Orton, Palumbo matches is that you know Brock is gonna win and since Orton and Palumbo never win. I fail to see the point of doing Palumbo v. Lesnar, five days after Palumbo jobbed to Ron Simmons Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest teke184 Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Bullshit. If it's ANYONE besides Benoit, you get upset because: 1. That person isn't in Angle's league in your opinion (Kane) even if Angle wins the feud and the other guys does his part to make the best of the situation. 2. They're going to go over Angle (Edge, RVD) even if they're capable of having good matches. 3. You just don't like them (Edge, Lesnar, etc) so even if they can put on good matches or are carriable, you just piss and moan about it anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted October 19, 2002 I don't even know why he sticks up for Benoit. There are times I wish he wouldn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Bullshit. If it's ANYONE besides Benoit, you get upset because: 1. That person isn't in Angle's league in your opinion (Kane) even if Angle wins the feud and the other guys does his part to make the best of the situation. 2. They're going to go over Angle (Edge) even if they're capable of having good matches. 3. You just don't like them (Edge, Lesnar, etc) so even if they can put on good matches or are carriable, you just piss and moan about it anyway. I meant the push over Angle. And are you implying that kane IS in Angle's league? By the way, tSD! was the fist time (besides the actual match) That I enjoyed the benoit/Angle feud. it has been booked very poorly up til now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest teke184 Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Kane has been proven to be carriable, ESPECIALLY with Angle. Since you pissed and moaned for months about how Kane was going to destroy Angle's career yet Angle won the only PPV match they had in that particular feud, I'd call that severe overreaction at the least. After that, you moved immediately on to bitching about Edge rather than responding to people who called you on the whole Kane situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Hamburglar Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Anglesault, on this board I've seen you go on about how you hate all of Angle's feuds, you think he looks like a fool constantly and that you hate his face character. So this beggars the question - do you even really like Kurt Angle at all? I don't see many posts from you about how great his matches each week are. Edit - forget to mention that you think he can't carry people either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Anglesault, on this board I've seen you go on about how you hate all of Angle's feuds, you think he looks like a fool constantly and that you hate his face character. So this beggars the question - do you even really like Kurt Angle at all? I don't see many posts from you about how great his matches each week are. Unless I say something, I thought the match was good. What need is there for me to report it? And all of his feuds have been really bad so far. This one is getting better though. Kane has been proven to be carriable, ESPECIALLY with Angle. And that means Angle should be facing Kane in the fourth match of Wrestlemania...why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted October 19, 2002 What about Angle v. Rey Rey? That feud elevated both men. As much as you hate it- Edge became way over because of the Angle feud and Angle did not suffer at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted October 19, 2002 One month after the "damaging" Edge feud, Angle went on to make Hulk Hogan TAP OUT, which was unheard of. You know, for someone so held down, Angle's done quite a bit of seemingly unheard off stuff in his time at WWF/E. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 19, 2002 What about Angle v. Rey Rey? That feud elevated both men. I didn't mind that feud so much, it was just kind of pointless, you know? It was like the definition of "neither guy has anything to do" And that match stood a good chance of hurting one or both of them if it was booked differently. As much as you hate it- Edge became way over because of the Angle feud and Angle did not suffer at all. Yeah, Edge became over. And Angle looked like a idiot. He literally had NO cred until he beat Hogan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest teke184 Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Because there was no one left, that's why. Let's see... Austin was feuding with freakin' Alka Hall Rock was with Hogan RVD was with Regal Flair was with Undertaker Jericho was with HHH Angle was with Kane Let's see... considering that Benoit was out and neither Eddy nor Rey had been brought in yet, there was no one for Angle to feud with. As much as you would have creamed yourself over Angle being in the ME of Wrestlemania, NO ONE was displacing Cripple H. Rock was with Hogan and, besides, Rock-Angle is pretty played out. Angle-Austin would have been good, but it was REALLY played out at that point and Austin was stuck dealing with the nWo. RVD would have had a good match with Angle, but he was winning the IC belt and, besides, Angle and his wife have bitched about RVD's in-ring manner. I'd hope than an Olympic freakin' wrestling champion would be able to put up with a few stiff shots that hit by accident, but I guess I'm wrong. And that left Kane, who had been proven to have some of the best matches of his career with Angle and who had been MORE than willing to sell the anklelock better than anyone since Scotty II Hotty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Because there was no one left, that's why. Let's see... Austin was feuding with freakin' Alka Hall Rock was with Hogan RVD was with Regal Flair was with Undertaker Jericho was with HHH Angle was with Kane Let's see... considering that Benoit was out and neither Eddy nor Rey had been brought in yet, there was no one for Angle to feud with. As much as you would have creamed yourself over Angle being in the ME of Wrestlemania, NO ONE was displacing Cripple H. Rock was with Hogan and, besides, Rock-Angle is pretty played out. Angle-Austin would have been good, but it was REALLY played out at that point and Austin was stuck dealing with the nWo. RVD would have had a good match with Angle, but he was winning the IC belt and, besides, Angle and his wife have bitched about RVD's in-ring manner. I'd hope than an Olympic freakin' wrestling champion would be able to put up with a few stiff shots that hit by accident, but I guess I'm wrong. And that left Kane, who had been proven to have some of the best matches of his career with Angle and who had been MORE than willing to sell the anklelock better than anyone since Scotty II Hotty. And that's sad. Angle means so littl to that company that they booked Mania in such a way that he was the odd man out, leaving the best active wrestler in the company at that time to face one of the worst. in the early stages of the biggest show of the year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted October 19, 2002 The WWF botched the Angle v. Kane feud I will agree but they could've made it great. I would've played up the two previous matches and sell it as Kane not being able to beat Angle and confirm this by having Angle beat him in some tag matches and make his life a living hell. Before WM I'd make sure to have Angle destroy Kane's ankle. Then at WM have Angle work on Kane the whole match and dominate while Kane tries to comeback until Kane musters one last bit of energy and plants Angle with a tombstone for the win. I would also have had Angle kick out of the chokeslam as well. I think a feud like that would've helped both guys a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest teke184 Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Because there was no one left, that's why. Let's see... Austin was feuding with freakin' Alka Hall Rock was with Hogan RVD was with Regal Flair was with Undertaker Jericho was with HHH Angle was with Kane Let's see... considering that Benoit was out and neither Eddy nor Rey had been brought in yet, there was no one for Angle to feud with. As much as you would have creamed yourself over Angle being in the ME of Wrestlemania, NO ONE was displacing Cripple H. Rock was with Hogan and, besides, Rock-Angle is pretty played out. Angle-Austin would have been good, but it was REALLY played out at that point and Austin was stuck dealing with the nWo. RVD would have had a good match with Angle, but he was winning the IC belt and, besides, Angle and his wife have bitched about RVD's in-ring manner. I'd hope than an Olympic freakin' wrestling champion would be able to put up with a few stiff shots that hit by accident, but I guess I'm wrong. And that left Kane, who had been proven to have some of the best matches of his career with Angle and who had been MORE than willing to sell the anklelock better than anyone since Scotty II Hotty. And that's sad. Angle means so littl to that company that they booked Mania in such a way that he was the odd man out, leaving the best active wrestler in the company at that time to face one of the worst. Don't give me that shit. The only people who came out of Wrestlemania better than they came in were Hogan, Taker, and HHH... and that showed where Vince's priorities in booking the show went. Rock and Austin, the guys who carried Vince from 1998 until the present, were paired up with nWo guys. If THEY weren't getting special treatment, then Angle shouldn't have gotten any. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DJ Jeff Report post Posted October 19, 2002 The only fued that Angle was involved in that I really enjoyed was his fued with Edge this past year. I bought both the Backlash and Judgment Day DVDs, and in my opinion, both Angle vs. Edge matches were good. Now, to get back on topic, and that is No Mercy, the only match I'm looking forward to is HHH© vs. Kane for the World Title. The only reason for that is because Kane is slowly becoming my new favorite wrestler, and if Kane wins the title, that would probably be the only bright spot of No Mercy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Oh, Austin was even more fucked than Angle, I'll give you that. They just should have fucking booked Austin/Angle. Austin carried the WWF on it's back in 2001, and he gets Hall. Angle was the only other guy there, and he gets Kane. Disgraceful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Now, to get back on topic, and that is No Mercy, the only match I'm looking forward to is HHH© vs. Kane for the World Title. The only reason for that is because Kane is slowly becoming my new favorite wrestler, and if Kane wins the title, that would probably be the only bright spot of No Mercy. It stands a very good chance of being WMOTN. Kane is useless. If he wins, I will vomit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted October 19, 2002 The only fued that Angle was involved in that I really enjoyed was his fued with Edge this past year. I bought both the Backlash and Judgment Day DVDs, and in my opinion, both Angle vs. Edge matches were good. Now, to get back on topic, and that is No Mercy, the only match I'm looking forward to is HHH© vs. Kane for the World Title. The only reason for that is because Kane is slowly becoming my new favorite wrestler, and if Kane wins the title, that would probably be the only bright spot of No Mercy. Why are you looking forward to a match based on one of the stupidest angles ever. Why is Kane your favourite wrestler??? Why do you think he has a chance in hell?? And uhhh the dude can't even drive a stick shift. I know Regal has flaws but I'm pretty sure he can drive a stick shift Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest teke184 Report post Posted October 19, 2002 At least Kane wasn't in danger of showing up to Wrestlemania bombed out of his mind and STILL be booked to go over Angle until common sense interviened. My point being that if Vince didn't respect the two top stars he had, who were in the top 5 workers in the company, then why would he respect a guy who was a great worker but AT THAT TIME was still suffering the ill effects of about 3 face-heel turns within the past 6 months? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Hamburglar Report post Posted October 19, 2002 And that's sad. Angle means so littl to that company that they booked Mania in such a way that he was the odd man out, leaving the best active wrestler in the company at that time to face one of the worst. in the early stages of the biggest show of the year. Oh, please. That's nothing to cry about, at least Angle won. Here's a real injustice to ponder - The Rock has been in three Wrestlemania events and has lost all of them, two of them to Austin, who I might add has managed to get away with never jobbing cleanly or indeed at all to Rock in a singles match-up. Now that's unfair. Honourable mention goes to HHH at X-7. Despite his shiteness now, HHH was one of the main guys in 2000-pre-injury 2001, and he got stuck jobbing to the worthless Undertaker. Angle was the fastest KOTR winner at the time, the Euro-Continental champion, had a hefty winning streak, was WWF chamion in under a year and was given an uber-face push the likes of which only Rock and Austin have equalled in summer 2001. He is hardly a deprived victim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted October 19, 2002 HHH jobbing to Taker was a very smart move I have to say- it was Taker's hometown and it was a fun match and I think if HHH had won the crowd would've been mega mega mega PISSED. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Here's a real injustice to ponder - The Rock has been in three Wrestlemania events and has lost all of them I'm sure the massive pay cheque he gets for maine evnting wrestlemania and all the build up to it makes him sleep easy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted October 19, 2002 "Angle means so little to the company" Hold on, I need to find my violin. I may be a while, it being so small and all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Hamburglar Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Here's a real injustice to ponder - The Rock has been in three Wrestlemania events and has lost all of them I'm sure the massive pay cheque he gets for maine evnting wrestlemania and all the build up to it makes him sleep easy. So, you can brush off the undeniable fact that Rock has been fucked over by Austin due to "his paycheck", but you can't do the same for Kurt "I made Hulk Hogan, the joint most popular American wrestler ever, tap out like a bitch" Angle? That's beyond insane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted October 19, 2002 Here's a real injustice to ponder - The Rock has been in three Wrestlemania events and has lost all of them I'm sure the massive pay cheque he gets for maine evnting wrestlemania and all the build up to it makes him sleep easy. So, you can brush off the undeniable fact that Rock has been fucked over by Austin due to "his paycheck", but you can't do the same for Kurt "I made Hulk Hogan, the joint most popular American wrestler ever, tap out like a bitch" Angle? That's beyond insane. I think it's been mentioned many times that the pay for maining Mania is massive. And he doesn't exactly care about Wrestling anymore anyway, so I don't think he minds coming in and jobbing in the main and making his movie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cataclysm911 Report post Posted October 19, 2002 I'm not going to lie, I anticipate all PPV's. Most of the time, however, it's not because of the wrestling card. It's because I get to hang out at BW3's with all of my friends and feast on some BBQ wings. I'm not really fond of The Undertaker right now, but HiaC usually at least attempts to bring something new to the table, so it will be interesting to see that. Kane Vs. Triple H could debut a new superstar.. you never know. Rob Van Dam Vs. Flair could be better than average. Smackdown! Tag title match should be good. Dawn Marie & Torrie will be terrible, but they'll probably be scantily clad, so it's all good. Trish Vs. Victoria is about the top women's match that you can get with Jazz being injured. It will also be interesting to see what the empty arena looks like.. or if J.R. tries to say it's sold out. Yeah, I guess I'm anticipating it.. it's just not worth $35.. which is why I go to BW3's.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites