Guest oldschoolwrestling Report post Posted October 30, 2002 Thanks to Jason Barrett of NoHoldsBarredWrestling.com for sending in the following. Scott Steiner made his final Indy appearance for Stars and Stripes Championship Wrestling in Lyndhurst, NJ last night. His appearance began with an autograph signing and was of course followed up by his match with Steve Corino. After the show Big Poppa Pump spoke briefly and shared his thoughts with us on the following items. - Enjoyed working for SSCW and put the company over for running a good show. - Said that becoming WWE World Champion is a very good possibility and the only way he can be stopped is by company politics. - Was excited about heading to WWE and feels that working with Triple H and Brock Lesnar down the road could make for some very exciting moments for fans. - Stated that his health is fine and fans should expect him to make a big impact in WWE. After speaking to a few people on the show, was informed that Steiner was having some minor back pain prior to the show but everything appeared to be fine following his match with Steve Corino. Was also informed that Steiner will be traveling to Stamford, CT today to go over plans for his character and to do some video work which will be used for TV features. credit 411wrestling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted October 30, 2002 Are they planning a Free Agent storyline here? Like with Triple H? I'm sure it will be more effective with Steiner since he has that Loose Cannon personality... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EL DANDY~! 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2002 "- Said that becoming WWE World Champion is a very good possibility and the only way he can be stopped is by company politics" Man, when he speaks the truth, he speaks the truth... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest snowfan Report post Posted October 30, 2002 "- Said that becoming WWE World Champion is a very good possibility and the only way he can be stopped is by company politics" Man, when he speaks the truth, he speaks the truth... I love yadda yadda yadda... He will never have a real title reign in the sense Crips has. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest drunkenscarredangel Report post Posted October 30, 2002 I think its safe to say that nobody is getting the title reign Cripple aitch has. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EL DANDY~! 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2002 Vince can basically pick his pumped up freak...but would you want a freak with skills or freak that has sex wit the killed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest snowfan Report post Posted October 30, 2002 Vince can basically pick his pumped up freak...but would you want a freak with skills or freak that has sex wit the killed? Vinny Mac will not hurt Daddy's little princess' feelings.... so unless Steiner is single or inspired.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins Report post Posted October 30, 2002 I want Steiner to bring back the Frankensteiner. JR: BAH GAWD~! Since Steiner was signed, was Madajah (sp?) signed also? AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WILL VINCE PLEASE SIGN CORINO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest notJames Report post Posted October 30, 2002 I want Steiner to bring back the Frankensteiner. JR: BAH GAWD~! Since Steiner was signed, was Madajah (sp?) signed also? AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WILL VINCE PLEASE SIGN CORINO. Why, so they can have TWO useless indy wrestlers instead of one? And yes, I consider Corino useless. His one talent (bleeding like a first-day tampon) has already been upstaged by 'Taker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted October 30, 2002 If by politics he means the more deserving guys who have been there longer, paid their dues, wrestle better, and wrestle without the threat of nagging injuries returning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest FeArHaVoC Report post Posted October 30, 2002 RAW or SmackDown! Where should Steiner land? Unless you've been living under a rock, you already know that Scott Steiner has signed with WWE. However, where he will land is still up in the air. E-mail [email protected] to tell us which roster you would like to see him on. Don't forget to tell us why. Credit: WWE.com I'm almost tempted to E-mail them, but what's the point? Vince probably has his mind made up already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest oldschoolwrestling Report post Posted October 30, 2002 RAW or SmackDown! Where should Steiner land? Unless you've been living under a rock, you already know that Scott Steiner has signed with WWE. However, where he will land is still up in the air. E-mail [email protected] to tell us which roster you would like to see him on. Don't forget to tell us why. Credit: WWE.com I'm almost tempted to E-mail them, but what's the point? Vince probably has his mind made up already. Everyone should email the WWE and say we want him on Confidential or Heat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted October 30, 2002 Or in OVW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest notJames Report post Posted October 30, 2002 If by politics he means the more deserving guys who have been there longer, paid their dues, wrestle better, and wrestle without the threat of nagging injuries returning. Oh TAG~! As for that email dealie, I'll send my vote to [email protected] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted October 30, 2002 I'm somewhat opttimistic that Steiner alone can get himself over....Even fucking Lucy the Dog...he'll do something Genuine and become the Smark Darling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Banky Report post Posted October 30, 2002 Or in OVW. Pessimism is finally overtaking Brian. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted October 30, 2002 Oh come on. You really think putting a guy with so many big injuries in the past into a prominent TV roll that should be occupied by more deserving people is the right thing to do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted October 30, 2002 At least if they have him in OVW for two or three weeks they can evaluate him better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Banky Report post Posted October 30, 2002 Oh come on. You really think putting a guy with so many big injuries in the past into a prominent TV roll that should be occupied by more deserving people is the right thing to do? In your "ideal" world it works, but in reality would pushing a young star be more profitable than Steiner? The ratings are down because the scripts are horrible, not because RVD isn't holding a World Title. Hopefully, the WWE feels someone like Scott Steiner will bring life to their terrible shows. They want to attract fans right now, get the show back on track - elevating Booker T or Sean O'Haire won't do that right now. A big name draws the fans back, capitalizing on it is a different story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest notJames Report post Posted October 30, 2002 Therein lies the problem. They're putting Band-Aids? on a gangrenous limb instead of lopping it off and giving the rest of the body a chance to heal itself. Vince and Co. need to accept that buyrates and ratings are down, and that a slow rebuilding process is what is needed, not hot-shotting old, run-down names from the past. They have a number of fresh faces that are desparate AND deserving of the spotlight. They should be the ones earmarked for vignettes and big pushes. They need to stop the bleeding and stop it now. Hiring Steiner, Goldberg, whoever, is only going to delay the inevitable if they're not going to shore up the roster they have now, through proper pushes, demotions, storylines, and character development. They got the hint in 1996. Why is it so hard to realize it now, especially since there isn't any real competition around to blame? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest godthedog Report post Posted October 30, 2002 - Said that becoming WWE World Champion is a very good possibility and the only way he can be stopped is by company politics. well...if by "company politics" he means "shitty mic work, bad health, lack of athleticism, and being old," he's smarter than i thought he was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MrRant Report post Posted October 30, 2002 Therein lies the problem. Their putting Band-Aids™ on a gangrenous limb instead of lopping it off and giving the rest of the body a chance to heal itself. Vince and Co. need to accept that buyrates and ratings are down, and that a slow rebuilding process is what is needed, not hot-shotting old, run-down names from the past. They have a number of fresh faces that are desparate AND deserving of the spotlight. They should be the ones earmarked for vignettes and big pushes. They need to stop the bleeding and stop it now. Hiring Steiner, Goldberg, whoever, is only going to delay the inevitable if they're not going to shore up the roster they have now. They got the hint in 1996. Why is it so hard to realize it now, especially since there isn't any real competition around to blame? There isn't a Nitro around shoving it in their face weekly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheArchiteck Report post Posted October 30, 2002 Well, I know a lot of causual veiwers who plan to turn WWE back just because of Stiener. So that's a positive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evenflowDDT Report post Posted October 31, 2002 Yea, but will they stay? I doubt it. Steiner with the title would just absolutely cement 2002 as the year of the WWE's worst champions ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted October 31, 2002 And how many is "a lot"? Be honest.... I love how the possibility of injury (and let's be real, Steiner is NOT the healthiest horse in the barn anymore) is downplayed to the nth degree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheArchiteck Report post Posted October 31, 2002 Well "a lot " from the people I know are about 5. So i'm pretty positive that many others around the states wants to see him again. People keep bringing up his health...although its a major factor he's still a draw. Maybe not the biggest, but he sure as hell isn't unnoticed. WWE already have to people that can keep the fans in during the long term. If someone like Stiener comes in and starts a buzz to draw more people...I think their goal is set. Now all WWE has to do is make their product more interesting for people instead of making people be ashamed for even watching it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted October 31, 2002 If HHH isn't a draw, Taker isn't. RVD isn't, and Booker T isn't, what makes you think Steiner is? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigjig Report post Posted October 31, 2002 And how many is "a lot"? Be honest.... I love how the possibility of injury (and let's be real, Steiner is NOT the healthiest horse in the barn anymore) is downplayed to the nth degree. He's healthy enough to have passed several physicals thrown at him so that's got to count for something Just saying... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheArchiteck Report post Posted October 31, 2002 Well....Steiner is "new". It's like a new fad to pull in more people. And all those people u mentioned would of course keep the people in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted October 31, 2002 Oh come on. You really think putting a guy with so many big injuries in the past into a prominent TV roll that should be occupied by more deserving people is the right thing to do? In your "ideal" world it works, but in reality would pushing a young star be more profitable than Steiner? The ratings are down because the scripts are horrible, not because RVD isn't holding a World Title. Hopefully, the WWE feels someone like Scott Steiner will bring life to their terrible shows. They want to attract fans right now, get the show back on track - elevating Booker T or Sean O'Haire won't do that right now. A big name draws the fans back, capitalizing on it is a different story. My ideal world is the real world. Pushing a young star is going to be far more profitable than bringing in Steiner and pushing him for the long-run. Look at it this way. The cost of bringing in Steiner isn't just the cost of his contract. It's the cost of him getting another main event slot before someone else too. Someone else who could take the same build and in the short-term probably build the same recognition that Steiner has; if he has any, because look at what it did for Booker back in mid-2000, who main evented the same period as him. So the cost is you're bringing on an unreliable hand at so and so millions of dollars and pushing him where someone else could benefit the company far greater than he could all in hopes he still can draw. If you're going to say booking is the problem, that doesn't make Steiner the solution. That makes him excessive; extra weight. Start where the problem is and fix it and maybe we wouldn't have to be bringing in a new stars and rather building on their own. Steiner bringing life to RAW? Heck, if booking is the problem how will Steiner appearing there and clogging up the main event scene make it better for booking? Heck, we don't know elevating anyone isn't going to get us on track. But we've seen in the past that building your own stars has created success and living off the past hasn't. And Steiner is not a big name. His name is attached to the dying days of WCW, unlike Goldberg's. And big names don't draw fans back. Look at the last Hogan face run. Fans went the opposite way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites