Goldberg

[Guest Danny]

I don't like Goldberg and I hope he never goes to the WWE. All he wants is

money and doesn't even care about the business. He wants all that money when

he can't even wrestle. His matches only last like 2-3 minutes. WWE is wasting

their time trying to get Goldberg in the WWE.

[Guest TheArchiteck]

Hmmm....although you and maybe others think he can't wrestle. It's many many many casual viewers and wrestling fans who will follow wherever Goldberg goes. He will without a doubt create a positive ripple in ratings and buyouts in the WWE.

[Guest Anglesault]

With a doubt, with a doubt. Goldberg was not on Steve Austin's level, like many think he is. Fans will not follow him around faithfully, like many blindly feel.

[Guest Danny]

Hmmm....although you and maybe others think he can't

wrestle. It's many many many casual viewers and wrestling

fans who will follow wherever Goldberg goes. He will

without a doubt create a positive ripple in ratings and

buyouts in the WWE.

Thats the only reason the WWE wants Goldberg, for ratings.

[Guest Redhawk]

He's a better wrestler than some of the guys in WWE, he would draw WAY more than some guys in WWE, so why not sign him?

[Guest Anglesault]

He's a better wrestler than some of the guys in WWE,

Oh, for Christ sakes, who? WHO? Hunter is even better than him. And don't drag up that fucking DDP match.

 

so why not sign him?

 

Because agitating a fragile locker room is not wise.

[Guest thebigjig]

I don't care what you guys say, an Austin/Goldberg main event at WrestleMania or ANY pay per view is an instant golden money maker and is probably the last real "dream" match that we have left...

 

 

If it were up to me, I say sign Goldberg to a short term deal, build up to a huge showdown between Austin... job him to Austin, and then send him packing

[Guest Brian]

But besides Austin and Rock, what does Goldberg have in him as a draw?

[Guest KingOfOldSchool]

Plenty of people feel the same way, Danny. Me included.

 

"He will without a doubt create a positive ripple in ratings and buyouts in the WWE."

 

But again, it's not a long-term fix, and people won't care one way or the other if the storylines and wrestling still suck. What'll he do, pop a rating for one or two weeks? Help the buyrate for one PPV?

 

There's also the fact that there's also no heralded "dream match" that could be conjured up, that casual fans would care about. Rock and Austin are gone, and Triple H would be the only guy left, but his heat completely sucks and his continual push is one reason why fans continue to tune out.

[Guest AndrewTS]

Goldberg to me = *click*

[Guest Respect The 'Taker]

Hmmm....although you and maybe others think he can't

wrestle. It's many many many casual viewers and wrestling

fans who will follow wherever Goldberg goes. He will

without a doubt create a positive ripple in ratings and

buyouts in the WWE.

Thats the only reason the WWE wants Goldberg, for ratings.

And what, may i ask, other reason would they want him for? Isn't that what the shows all about?

 

I agree with bringing in Scott Steiner, as i've always been a fan of his, but Goldberg has never favoured too well in the Illusion popularity camp, and i doubt bringing him back into the wrestling spotlight will do anything significant to the ratings.

 

Vince needs to realise that one man won't change the fact his product sucks. It's a team effort, and if you have 20 guys out there every week doing whats right for THEMSELVES, not mentioning any names TRIPLE H, then obviously the show is going to start to lack in quality.

 

There's no 'I' in team, however there's no 'Steroids' in 'Triple H', but that sure as hell hasn't stopped him from using them.

 

I've said my piece.

 

Illusion

[Guest Danny]

Gillberg was more entertaining and had better

matches than Goldberg.

[Guest CanadianChick]

Goldberg to me = *click*

that just described my exact feelings on the matter.

[Guest Redhawk]

Who's Goldberg a better wrestler than? Let's see...

Batista

Bradshaw

Goldust

Jamal

Johnny Stamboli

Rosie

Spike Dudley

Big Show

Billy Gunn

Chuck Palumbo

Faarooq

Hulk Hogan

Hugh Morrus

Godfather

Mark Henry

Rikishi

Undertaker

 

Who can Goldberg draw with? (If it's booked right, of course)

Booker T

Chris Jericho

Ric Flair

RVD

Shawn Michaels

Undertaker

The Rock

Kurt Angle

Brock Lesnar

Hulk Hogan

Triple H

[Guest Anglesault]

Who's Goldberg a better wrestler than? Let's see...

Batista

Bradshaw

Goldust

Jamal

Johnny Stamboli

Rosie

Spike Dudley

Big Show

Billy Gunn

Chuck Palumbo

Faarooq

Hulk Hogan

Hugh Morrus

Godfather

Mark Henry

Rikishi

Undertaker

 

Who can Goldberg draw with? (If it's booked right, of course)

Booker T

Chris Jericho

Ric Flair

RVD

Shawn Michaels

Undertaker

The Rock

Kurt Angle

Brock Lesnar

Hulk Hogan

Triple H

I disagree with about 98% of that, but if you have some evidence you can produce...

[Guest thebigjig]

Who's Goldberg a better wrestler than? Let's see...

Batista

Bradshaw

Goldust

Jamal

Johnny Stamboli

Rosie

Spike Dudley

Big Show

Billy Gunn

Chuck Palumbo

Faarooq

Hulk Hogan

Hugh Morrus

Godfather

Mark Henry

Rikishi

Undertaker

 

Who can Goldberg draw with? (If it's booked right, of course)

Booker T

Chris Jericho

Ric Flair

RVD

Shawn Michaels

Undertaker

The Rock

Kurt Angle

Brock Lesnar

Hulk Hogan

Triple H

The day Goldberg bumps like Spike Dudley is the day...

 

the day...

 

ah fuck it's too late for me to think of something witty here but you get my point.

 

I think Goldberg's a better wrestler than some of the people on that list with the exception of Goldust, Stamboli, Spike, and Palumbo

[Guest Rob Edwards]

Goldberg makes sense, I can't see the morale problem, If he's drawing ratings and house show attendances are up then everyone's making money. Theres a few feuds he could draw in Goldberg v Rock/Austin/Brock/Angle/Jericho/HHH/HBK would all draw huge buyrates. The only problem is his real life rivalry with the aforemention Hunter

[Guest FeArHaVoC]

Goldberg is more useless then a Female in Jeff Hardy's Bed.

 

WWE doesn't need him. He is NOT the quick fix. Let him keep doing his Anti-WWE Commentaries every week or two.

 

How is he doing in Japan anyway? Are the crowds getting behind him or booing him for his lack of skill?

[Guest humongous2002]

"Goldberg is more useless than a female in Jeff Hardy's bed"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA sad but true.

[Guest Brian]

He's gone shooto. Seriously. But he still sucks horribly.

 

 

"Batista"

 

Goldberg wishes he could do the power bit as well as Batista. Check out the OVW tapes.

 

"Bradshaw"

 

I'll conced this one, for now.

 

"Goldust"

 

Goldberg wishes he could be half the wrestler Golddust is.

 

"Jamal"

 

Jamal might seem careless in the ring, but he actually has a decent idea of how to work.

 

"Johnny Stamboli"

 

Not close really. Stamboli can work some wild brawls if given the opportunity.

 

"Rosie"

 

Same case as Jamal, hard to call given their situation.

 

"Spike Dudley"

 

Here's another that's not even close. Spike, before he gets into mega bumping style, still has a great mind when it comes to sequencing and pacing them, building off them, and just taking tons of them. And that's just his bumping. He can work some wicked brawls and does a great Morton.

 

"Big Show"

 

Yeah.

 

"Billy Gunn"

 

Gunn's better right now. I reserve judgment for his singles work, but his tag work is all good.

 

"Chuck Palumbo"

 

No. Palumbo's punches alone should put him ahead.

 

"Faarooq"

 

Maybe. You never get to see Farooq work anymore.

 

"Hulk Hogan"

 

It hurts me to say this but no. I think Hogan had a decent wrestling mind in there that he started showing off in the WWE this year.

 

"Hugh Morrus"

 

No.

 

"Godfather"

 

Maybe, probably not. Wright was decent, and that's better than Billy Boy.

 

"Mark Henry"

 

Yeah.

 

"Rikishi"

 

No. Rikishi's a good big man and bumper when he's not playing the gimmick, and rubbing his BUTT around.

 

"Undertaker"

 

When Taker wants to go, he's better than Goldberg, but some matches make me wonder.

 

 

Goldberg won't draw without a proven draw. He's too far removed and just a reminisce of old WCW.

[Guest TheArchiteck]

Man I don't like Spike at all.

But Goldberg could be a major key of WWE getting top ratings again. Look, no matter what you say...we should all agree that Goldberg will bring in higher ratings for maybe the next following weeks he's there. But its up 2 keep WWE viewers there. They use Goldberg to draw the people in......and use the other talents on the roster to keep them. I mean they have a very talented roster....they just not using them. Simple formula really... Use the cheese to draw to mouse..but use more cheese to keep him around.

But will WWE take advantage of it? We'll see what they will do when Steiner comes in. This is an opportunity to clean their slates.

[Guest Brian]

I don't think Goldberg's good enough to make that much of a dent.

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

Goldberg makes sense, I can't see the morale problem, If he's drawing ratings and house show attendances are up then everyone's making money. Theres a few feuds he could draw in Goldberg v Rock/Austin/Brock/Angle/Jericho/HHH/HBK would all draw huge buyrates. The only problem is his real life rivalry with the aforemention Hunter

The morale problem comes from his attitude. He pissed a lot of people off in WCW in the locker room. He's a jackass.

[Guest Trivia247]

People just keep fantasing over Austin Goldberg ohhhh It would Make SOOO Much Money... yea maybe back in 99.

 

Is it the premiss that Austin Goldberg would make money Anytime any year?

 

Just a pair of Bald guys in black tights going at each other. One guy who Pouts and goes home even if he wins matches, and the other who if he isn't Injurying people he is also Sitting at home crossing his arms because he isn't World Champion, or Told that he can't just beat people automatically anymore.

 

Austin is gone, Goldberg not even a member. and So Far Goldberg still running his mouth bashing the WWE.

 

But Hell you wanna see it by hook or crook, you don't care how it will happen you just want to see it to fulfill some Strange Fantasy.

 

Well if it happens I hope you people can sleep at night because it will be the HELL you give us having that Crap in WWE.

 

then we will have Political Struggles of HHH vs Goldberg and everyone else will Suffer...

 

ALL BECAUSE of you people who just WANTS goldberg.

[Guest MaxPower27]

I just wish people would give it up. It's obvious that they don't need to bring back any former stars, they need to build their own.

 

It's been said:

 

Goldberg + WWE = Me turning the channel.

[Guest Anglesault]

One guy who Pouts and goes home even if he wins matches,

Hey, there's more to it than that

[Secret Agent 0]

Does anybody remember the Raw where WWF forst bought WCW? The last Nitro?

 

Vince was going on about different wrestlers to see the crowds reaction, and when he failed to mention Goldberg, a huge Goldberg chant broke out. Then when he finally said Goldberg, he got the biggest pop of the night.

 

So to say Goldberg won't draw ratings is dumb. He may not be all that great of a wrestler and he may have a terrible backstage presence. BUT Goldberg = Ratings.

[Guest Gary Busey]

I may not like Goldberg the person, or think he is a very good wrestler on his own, but he can be carried to decent matches.

 

He would make an impact if he entered the WWE. I was watching Raw here in the dorm, and a couple football players walked in my room. We started talking about wrestling, and they all agreed they stopped watching wrestling completely when Goldberg wasn't on TV anymore. They even watched some of the crap WCW was putting on instead of the hotter WWF just so they could see the guy. That's the WWE's core dream audience: college guys.

 

Austin/Goldberg would still draw insane amounts. It's more then a couple of guys in black tights who whine, like some have suggested. If they promoted the match and PPV in mainstream channels, the buyrate would be insane. The audience doesn't know they walked out, or refused to work, or had backstage problems. You say Goldberg and people think badass who destroys. You say Stone Cold and they think of the Rattlesnake. Yeah, it's been a few years since both were on top of the entertainment world, but they could still draw in people from the last hot period.

 

People must not get caught up in the idea that only the opinions of the people in the net community are the real ones. Goldberg won't draw because he can't hang with Benoit? He never could and he was insanely over for about two years. Austin won't draw because he didn't like how he was booked? Come on! You reintroduce both guys into the mix, give it a month or two month build and start raking in the cash.

 

Yeah, Goldberg won't be the long term fix for the industry. But he could help by keeping interest in the product while the company gets their ducks in a row.

[Guest Anglesault]

Does anybody remember the Raw where WWF forst bought WCW? The last Nitro?

 

Vince was going on about different wrestlers to see the crowds reaction, and when he failed to mention Goldberg, a huge Goldberg chant broke out. Then when he finally said Goldberg, he got the biggest pop of the night.

 

So to say Goldberg won't draw ratings is dumb. He may not be all that great of a wrestler and he may have a terrible backstage presence. BUT Goldberg = Ratings.

The ratings sky rocketed for Hogan, right?

[Guest Gary Busey]

The difference with Hogan: he is old and useless in the eyes of today's younger wrestling fans. The people who popped for Hogan, by and large, were the people who were around for his first run 10-20 years ago. It was, as everybody has said, nostolgia.

 

Goldberg can still be viewed as a credible threat. For people who don't know the backstage bullshit, for all intents and purposes he looks like he could take the title away from HHH and go toe to toe with Brock.

 

Hogan, like Flair, is just an old man living on his legacy. What do casual fans, and the nonfans, ask when you bring up either man? "He's still alive?" People don't care for the last generation and Goldberg is still current enough for people to take seriously.