Guest Banky Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 Who in the WWE is overated? Now don't say Triple H, Kane, Undertaker, Big Show, Jeff Hardy, Kevin Nash, ect... I am talking about guys like Booker T, Christian, Regal, Edge, Eddie, Benoit, Angle, Chavo, Mysterio, Funaki, Jericho, Noble, Storm, RVD, ect... Guys who always get praised but really don't deserve it. My picks are D'lo Brown and Christian. Both guys are praised to the shits, but their matches are formulatic junk. All rather predictable and menotonous. Chinlocks, arm bars, calf kicks, leg drops are part of these guys repetoire - and it sucks.
Guest Mad Dog Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 Tommy Dreamer - extremely basic moveset Al Snow - he's above average but that's all Saturn - one dimensional Kurt Angle - extremely good but a lot of people turned a blind eye to a lot of the injuries he caused in his early days
Guest Pop Culture God Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 Eddy: His in-ring stuff is good, but everyone talks about what an amazing promo guy he is. He SUCKS. He talkjs like that spanish guy from the SuperFriends. Benoit: No one man can be as good as people say Benoit is.
Guest Banky Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 Eddy: His in-ring stuff is good, but everyone talks about what an amazing promo guy he is. He SUCKS. He talkjs like that spanish guy from the SuperFriends. Benoit: No one man can be as good as people say Benoit is. Wow, I knew the Benoit, Eddie, Angle bashing would come sooner or later - but not this early.
Guest Mad Dog Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 I think a lot of the Benoit praise comes from the fact that he can work any style of match well. I've seen him wrestle WWE, lucha, New Japan, hardcore, etc. I've rarely seen him in a bad match. Hell he even got a watchable match out of Billy Gunn. But he isn't as good as 80s Flair that could carry a broomstick to a watchable match.
Guest Mad Dog Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 I'm not bashing Angle. I'm just pointing out that a lot of people either ignore or make excuses for the injuries he's caused.
Guest Your Olympic Hero Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 Booker T. His promos are gold, but his in-ring work leaves alot to be desired in my opinion, and he needs someone to carry him. His finishers are lacklustre as well.
Guest Hogan Made Wrestling Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 Lance Storm is someone that's massively overrated. I can't think of a single match other than the Edge one (this includes WCW and ECW stuff) that's at around the **** level. Would probably have to go back to early 90s WAR to find one. His technique is ok but his moves are totally soft, he has the worst punches in WWE, and his matches really don't ever tell a captivating story. Booker T is someone else who has a reputation as a "great wrestler" from a series of matches with Benoit back in the 90s while having done basically nothing of note before or since then. Christian as someone mentioned is really overrated, I think people say he's better than Edge just to sound "smart".
Guest IB2BLACK Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 Booker T. Can any one name a memorable match he was involved in? besides "sucka" & the spinarooni, he's so over-rated. And how long before people get tired of him doin it. But I still like the guy.
Guest BaldFish Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 Christian. Yawn city. Regal--I don't think he's awful, but I don't understand why he's supposed to be so great. Bret Hart (mostly from the Canuck Contingent). Once again--not awful, but he just never impressed me as much as, say, Michaels. Never did anything to make me sit up and take notice. I want to mention some UNDERRATED guys, too, though: The Rock. He's great on the stick, jobs clean at a moment's notice, and not as bad in the ring as most smarks want him to be. Edge. He's improved so drastically that I can't even begin to describe him. RVD. Godlike, IMO. Granted that his ECW matches were slow to start, but that was more of a way to tease the live crowd. I think it's one of those "you had to be THERE" things. Sabu. When he was on, he was ON. Granted that he's washed up now, and tried to hold on for too long, but he was amazing back in the day. It's a pity he self-destructed before getting anywhere near WWE, because their style would have extended his career. Taz. Particularly AS: he wants them to push Angle, who is not a giant, and then bags on Taz for being too short? Bah. Lesnar. I have never seen a bad Lesnar match. I loved Lesnar/Cena--I don't see where the hate comes from in that match.
Guest Pop Culture God Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 AS doesn't want to admit it but Angle was terrible in his first two or three months gettin legit boring chants instead of the ones later that were there just to piss him off. Lesnar has found his niche and basically done everything AS said he wouldn't: Get over, draw heat, work well as champ, begin to improve.
Guest IB2BLACK Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 I wouldn't call him overrated, cause he got cut, but Mike Sanders. All he could do was talk. And he couldn't make it as a cruiser.
Guest ShooterJay Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 Booker T had good matches with Jeff Jarrett, Kanyon and Lance Storm toward the end of WCW, and his match at Summerslam with Rock was very solid. He's gotten mostly shit opponents like the nWo, UT, Test, and the like, although I will admit he's disappointed against Jericho and Guerrero. Storm hasn't really been able to showcase his talents because he's been such a jobber with short matches. The Edge match was excellent, and he had a couple of really good matches with RVD. He's got the goods.
Guest Nevermortal Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 Regal & D-Lo are at the top of my list. I've never, ever seen a great match from the two of them. They're the epitome of average.
Guest AlwaysPissedOff Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 Christian- If it weren't for his bumping and others marking out for his entrance, this guy wouldn't be shit. Should get no higher than being a tag champ, IMO. Booker T- I love the Book and have since 97, but he's really, REALLY iffy in the ring on the best of days. Lance Storm- Yawn-O-Rama. Hey Lance, when you get a move that doesn't look worse than a 3 year old's slap, let me know.
Guest midnight_burn Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 Lance Storm and Booker T come to mind, neither's done much of note in the ring for a long time.
Guest chirs3 Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 Christian and D'Lo are my two picks as well. Not that I see rampant "CHRISTIAN 4 WORLD CHAMP!" posts, but people generally see him as the better half of E&C, and for me it's the opposite. And D'Lo... I dunno, he just doesn't seem like anything special, but a lot of people here are calling for him to be a regular on Raw.
Guest Mulatto Heat Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 I admit, I was in support of Storm up until the summertime when he got pushed yet didn't improve one bit. Christian can also get another vote. The Edge whiners can yammer about how he gets carried to great matches until they're blue in the face (again), but at least Edge is willing to get carried to make the match better. Christian does not, thus dragging down the match and making it suck. How it translates to stuff like "better flow" is beyond me.
Guest Brian Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 Angle is overrated as being a great all-around worker. He's proven outside of the WWE style he can't cut it, but that's not his fault. His mat work is decent at best without someone to lead him. Storm is vastly overrated. He has an offense that makes Stratus look good and has never had a good-great match that he hasn't been carried to. Christian just hits the restholds nowadays because he has no idea of how to string together his poor attempt at chain wrestling. Booker has never been known to be that overrated, I've always seen him as a decent worker who's carryable because his problems can be worked around by a better worker and turned into some great matches. Rock gets way too much credit sometimes despite my liking of him. He's not the athlete and worker of Angle but he's also found his niche in the style like Angle and probably can't translate out of it.
Guest razazteca Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 Edge, well I did not want to believe all of the hate for this Canadian but after seeing to proof that is the Summer Slam match with Eddy working over the arm & shoulder the whole match, then losing to a SPEAR............I now see the light. Edge has so many other moves that he could finish a match with such as the DDT he borrowed from Grangel or the standing figure 4. Why finish the match with the Spear? Edge has by far the worst Spear in all of wrestling all most as bad as Chuck Palumbo's Super Kick.
Guest CanadianChick Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 How can Edge be considered overrated if everone bashes him all the time? Anyways, I think that Christian is pretty overrated. Restholds are the name of the game in his matches.
Guest Kahran Ramsus Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 RVD. He can't talk, and his wrestling is spotty junk. He isn't that much better than Jeff Hardy.
Guest AlwaysPissedOff Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 Edge, well I did not want to believe all of the hate for this Canadian but after seeing to proof that is the Summer Slam match with Eddy working over the arm & shoulder the whole match, then losing to a SPEAR............I now see the light. Edge has so many other moves that he could finish a match with such as the DDT he borrowed from Grangel or the standing figure 4. Why finish the match with the Spear? Edge has by far the worst Spear in all of wrestling all most as bad as Chuck Palumbo's Super Kick. That's just one match, though. Hell, he learned from that and made a much better effort in the Unforgiven match. If he was doing the entire year or whatever, I could understand, but basing it off of one match when the next match showed a very marked improvement is kinda odd.
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 I have to give the nod to Booker T here in a run away. He hasn't had a singles match that bordered on decent in a long long time.
Guest art_vandelay Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 Raven. I don't care if he was the shit 5 years ago... he sucks now. Boring matches, basic moveset, shitty finisher (I can't buy a DDT as a finisher if I just saw Spike Dudley kick out of one from Johnny Stamboli 10 minutes ago), uncomfortable up-skirt camera shots of him during his matches, and promos filled with big words for the sake of using big words to sound smart. Is there anyone besides some ECW marks who actually care about Raven's "mystery" that's supposedly so important it's taking 2 weeks of build-up before he can reveal it on HEAT? There's just nothing special about his character or his matches at the moment, IMO.
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 ECW marks at this point make up more than half of the WWE fanbase. They are the diehards...the ones that just don't leave. Why else would RVD be the only one still getting a reaction?
Guest razazteca Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 well it is hard for me to follow the Edge Spear Saga as I do not get UPN so I base my opinion on what I can download. Eddy = Greatness on many levels
Guest art_vandelay Posted November 4, 2002 Report Posted November 4, 2002 ECW marks at this point make up more than half of the WWE fanbase. You mean the 0.9's ECW on TNN drew make up more than half of Raw's current 3.x's? Not everybody watched ECW, they didn't have to in order to enjoy wrestlers like RVD and Tajiri. Why didn't Mike Awesome or Justin Credible ever catch on? Why else would RVD be the only one still getting a reaction? I'm not going to bother with arguing about anything concerning RVD with bps, I already have a wall I can do that with.
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