Moves that I want to see

[Guest Jonathan Barber]

Giant Swing/Dropkick to head combo

XPW's Mexico's Most Wanted uses that as their finisher, and they call it Montezuma's Revenge. Konnan also uses a mvoe with that same name, but I think it's a much different manuever.

 

Coffin Surfer, the move you mentioned, or at least a similar version of it is used by UK star and former-ROH'er (is he still w/ them?) Doug Williams. He calls the move The Chaos Theory, and here's a description of it:

 

Williams applies a back waistlock to his foe. He runs forward and rams his foe into a turnbuckle. He bounces backwards, rolls completely through, and delivers a ^Bridging Snap German Suplex^.)

 

Dace, I believe that a bulldog lariat and inverted bulldog are the same thing. Both are a bulldog with the opponent facing toward you, aren't they?

 

I thought Samoa Joe's Chimera Suplex was a German, then dragon, then cross-arm dragon suplex, but I guess I could be wrong. You sure it ends with rolling dragon suplexes?

 

Current XPW King of the Deathmatch Champion Altar Boy Luke uses a moonsault where he stands on the middle ring rope on the outside of the ring (he's facing out towards the fans), and then moonsaults over the ropes, back into the ring, and onto his opponent. It's not a Press Suicida (to the outside) version, though.

 

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[Guest Coffin Surfer]

I wouldn't mind seeing a Half-Dragon, Half-Tiger release suplex.

Wouldn't that be a release TS '85? I always pondered the half-dragon,half-tiger suplex and wondered why it was never dubbed the "Chimera Suplex".

 

Anybody done a sheer-drop Lygerbomb, hitting more of the shoulders than back?

Ohtani usually takes the Running Lyger Bomb at a sick angle, pretty much on his neck and shoulders.

 

And the Tiger Suplex 85 is more along the lines of a Half Nelson Suplex, although instead of wrapping the other hand around the victim's waist, you bring it up underneath their chin, and grab your other wrist, kind of making an L with your arms.

 

Oh and isn't the bulldog lariat also called the Falling Neckbreaker or at least it was when Randy Savage used it.

[Guest Dace59]

Dace, I believe that a bulldog lariat and inverted bulldog are the same thing. Both are a bulldog with the opponent facing toward you, aren't they?

 

Yer, but an inverted bulldog is the more accurate name, as you just invert the possistion of the bulldog.

 

I thought Samoa Joe's Chimera Suplex was a German, then dragon, then cross-arm dragon suplex, but I guess I could be wrong. You sure it ends with rolling dragon suplexes?

 

It would be ver hard to hook in a cross armed full nelson.

It's German, roll over, Tiger, roll over, Dragon, bridge for the pin.

 

Altar Boy Luke uses a moonsault where he stands on the middle ring rope on the outside of the ring (he's facing out towards the fans), and then moonsaults over the ropes, back into the ring, and onto his opponent.

 

Oustide In moonsault, I've seen it done before.

 

Oh and isn't the bulldog lariat also called the Falling Neckbreaker or at least it was when Randy Savage used it.

 

No. All neckbreakers are falling by default (ala HHH's) That's the basic more.

 

And the Tiger Suplex 85 is more along the lines of a Half Nelson Suplex, although instead of wrapping the other hand around the victim's waist, you bring it up underneath their chin, and grab your other wrist, kind of making an L with your arms.

 

Coffin did you read what I put?

And a half nelson goes under the arm, and round to the back of the neck. Which doesnt happen in the TS'85

Like I said, it's a underhook sleeper suplex, because it's a sleep possistion of the arms, but going under and hooking both of the opps. arms.

[Guest Jonathan Barber]

Here's some more:

 

a bridging T-Bone Suplex

Vertical Suplex into kneebuster (Facebuster on knee)

 

Here's some double-team moves that I think would be cool:

 

Wheelbarrow Suplex into Neckbreaker

Inverted Wheelbarrow Suplex into Cutter

[Guest Dace59]

Vertical Suplex into kneebuster (Facebuster on knee)

 

Ez Moeny does this one I think. If not him, I've seen it done.

 

Wheelbarrow to neckbreaker and inverted version.

 

That'd be cool. Something says the Briscoes do these, but I know they dont. Odd brain.

 

Heh.

[Guest Coffin Surfer]

And the Tiger Suplex 85 is more along the lines of a Half Nelson Suplex, although instead of wrapping the other hand around the victim's waist, you bring it up underneath their chin, and grab your other wrist, kind of making an L with your arms.

 

Coffin did you read what I put?

And a half nelson goes under the arm, and round to the back of the neck. Which doesnt happen in the TS'85

Like I said, it's a underhook sleeper suplex, because it's a sleep possistion of the arms, but going under and hooking both of the opps. arms.

No, not until just now did I see your post. Your right technically it's not a Half Nelson, since Misawa usually locks his hand behind the victim's ear rather than their neck. But If I was describing it to someone, I would call it a Half Nelson since it looks exactly like one from the front view, and Misawa even sets it up most of the time with a Full Nelson. I just figured it was a sloppy Half Nelson, since Misawa usually uses it on wide guys that are way bigger than him.

 

I never seen the Sleeper Suplex connection before, but I guess it's there. However in a Sleeper Suplex, you hook one of the arm's anyway, and they don't even lock their hand behind the victim's head, instead they just hold hands with the one that's wrapped around the victim's throat. In the Tiger Suplex 85, the right hand is brought up higher to the head, so I guess that's why didn't see it. Lower it, and it's the same move, except the left hand comes from underneath the victim's armpit.

[Guest CoreyLazarus416]

Dace, just in case you didn't see it: Head-And-Arm 'Rana[/b[. It's been done by mistake by Kid Kash to CW Anderson at an ECW 2000 PPV, but I forget which one. All I know is that it'd look cool, especially if chained right into a Triangle Hold on the mat.

 

Also, Slingshot with Performer A holding receiver's legs into an Ace Crusher variation by Peformer B (Diamond Cutter, Stunner, one-handed OG Ace Crusher), then Performer A rolls backwards and locks on a Crab to the receiver. I know it can be done, because me and a few friends did it once, just asking if it's been done before.

[Guest Jonathan Barber]

Double-Team Underhook DDT (each man grabs one arm of the foe and DDT's him at the same time)

 

Northern Lights Suplex lift into Fujiwara Armbar

Belly-to-Back (Backdrop) lift into inverted Fujiwara Armbar

[Guest CED Ordonez]

Has a double arm submission/leg submission combo ever happened in a 6 man tag where two guys take the arms and the other guy gets the legs?

[Guest deadbeater]

I have a few more:

 

Umbrella Jackhammer:

 

Vertical suplex hold, slingshot Tully Blanchard style, but instead back to vertical suplex hold, slingshot to the opposite ropes straight into a jackhammer.

 

Perfect 10:

 

Uses Smackdown and Spanish Announce Table. Straddle opponent on Arena floor railing, parallel to SA table. Stand on edge of Smackdown table. Start a back tumbling run, flip onto the Spanish Announce table, continue tumble run on the Spanish Announce table, dismount with a flip, hit opponent with any body part.

 

Park and Ride: Back body drop, Turn around to catch opponent in the middle of the drop for an Inverted Giant Swing. Use with very light people.

[Guest Dace59]

Coffin, when I say underhook sleeper suplex.

I dont mean an underhook version of the sleeper suplex. I mean an underhook sleeper, suplex over.

If that makes sense.

 

Head-And-Arm 'Rana

 

I've got the PPV, nice move, and the chain into a triangle choke would be good.

 

Slingshot with Performer A holding receiver's legs into an Ace Crusher variation by Peformer B (Diamond Cutter, Stunner, one-handed OG Ace Crusher), then Performer A rolls backwards and locks on a Crab to the receiver

 

Havent seen that one.

 

Double-Team Underhook DDT (each man grabs one arm of the foe and DDT's him at the same time)

 

Interesting. Very easy but good.

 

Northern Lights Suplex lift into Fujiwara Armbar

Belly-to-Back (Backdrop) lift into inverted Fujiwara Armbar

 

Both highly possible.

 

Has a double arm submission/leg submission combo ever happened in a 6 man tag where two guys take the arms and the other guy gets the legs?

 

Boston Crab + double Fujiwara arm bar.