Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted November 14, 2002 I still don't think Show will win, but I've been worried about Michaels winning for a while now. I will talk about the Show match only, since I actually care about it. I wouldn't be surprised to get some sort of DQ here, but I really can't see Show taking the title. Lesnar IS getting over, and having him job now is stupid. The only way Show should get it is if Lesnar has to forfeit due to injury. Show having the belt isn't too bad, but Lesnar shouldn't be jobbing to ANYONE until he gets Angle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted November 14, 2002 Calm down people...it's only from the Torch. Big Show ain't goin over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted November 14, 2002 Well, that combined with reading that Meltzer said last week that Vince had decided to not go with a long Brock title reign has me a little afraid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nikowwf Report post Posted November 14, 2002 What's torchs track record like for things like this? Any examples? niko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hogan Made Wrestling Report post Posted November 14, 2002 While Michaels winning is fine, Show beating Lesnar is beyond stupid and would be the worst booking decision of the year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted November 14, 2002 They aren't as repspected as the Observer but I can't think of any glaring errors like over at 1wrestling. Mainly because they always remind everyone that WWE changes placs all the time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest converge241 Report post Posted November 14, 2002 How the hell did you get your Torch on a Thursday on a holiday week? Id like to comment on topic but i dont even want to think about one of those scenarios Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bravesfan Report post Posted November 14, 2002 ...I won't believe it UNTIL I see it. Fuck, the Torch will cover their asses either way if the outcome turns out like they reported. That last sentence allows the Torch to spew bullshit and truth, yet blaming it on "Vince's mind changing many times before the PPV". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted November 14, 2002 C'mon! Vince has tried Big Show before and it's failed. No one would be stupid enough to try it again, not even Vince McMa...... *looks back at Hogan World Title reign, 6 month rookie crowned champion, HHH introducing a 2nd World Title, Necrophelia Angle, Big Show push* wait a minute... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted November 14, 2002 At least this doesn't possibly happen after I pay $35 for it. Bless sports bars for their $5 door charge and loud crowds. Fo sheez, Kotzenjunge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RedJed Report post Posted November 14, 2002 I can actually understand the logic in giving Show the title, since they are trying their damndest to give him (possibly) one last shot on maintaining a ME level with him. With with the other match, it's just a slap in the face in number of directions to not even consider the other 4. In addition, the thought of actually keeping the title on Hunter is even more absurd, but I guess I'm not surprised. Fuckin Vince...........argg. I would love to see the fans riot after the ppv in the arena if Show AND HHH both win. That might be the only thing to wake up whoever is really deciding on these finishes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted November 14, 2002 I also have been worried about HBK winning. Anyway, what's so disturbing about these scenarios is that we would have to put up with the same crap again at the next PPV. WTF? Vince: "Man, Survivor Series looks awful....let's try it again next month!" With that said, there's no way in fuck Show is winning. They might go for the retarded "Not feeling it" finish, but no way will they take the belt off Brock and put it on Show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted November 14, 2002 Well, I knew I haven't watched WWE in about a month and a half now for a reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BoboBrazil Report post Posted November 14, 2002 Meltzer said last Wrestling Observer Live show that Vince was having second thoughts of Brock as champion and plans were changing for him not to keep the title until WM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Samurai_Goat Report post Posted November 14, 2002 You know, if there weren't so many ppvs, then they could actually build up feuds over time, instead of just throwing everything together. Samurai_Goat: King of Obvious Observations Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the pinjockey Report post Posted November 14, 2002 Vince: Well Show you are out of shape, constantly ignoring our pleas to you to get in shape, and you are sucking a million dollars a year from us: Show: Sorry, Vince whats my punishment Vince: Well we are going to make you the first person to go over Brock Lesnar and give you a title run. What are other people who constantly busting their asses to stay in shape and make an effort to put on a quality in ring effort when the laziest piece of shit in the company is actually a possability as champion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest snowfan Report post Posted November 14, 2002 Let me just see if my feeble mind can grasp this concept... Vince's big plan is to put all the wrong people over... and then do rematches the next ppv. He sure is a genius just like Wile E. Coyote.... hey Vinny how's that acme dynamite taste??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Last Free Voice Report post Posted November 14, 2002 If BS and Shawn OR HGH go over TNA will have the most credible champ in North America. This gos down I give up WWE for good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest snowfan Report post Posted November 14, 2002 If BS and Shawn OR HGH go over TNA will have the most credible champ in North America. This gos down I give up WWE for good. the beginning of the end for me was when Mega-Slow HGH won the Rumble... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Super Pissed Smark Report post Posted November 14, 2002 Y'know, I was halfway through a snarky, profanity-laced tirade against Vince, the stupidest fucking genius that man has ever seen, then decided, fuck it, why even bother any more? This is just so beyond the pale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ram Report post Posted November 14, 2002 The smartest thing to do would be to let HHH/HBK feud alone and have another two (Jericho/Booker) feud over the title. Two draws there, rather than wasting both the power of the title draw and the grudge return match draw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted November 15, 2002 people, people, people... when has the fed done ANYTHING logical in the last two years? i mean seriously, they are lucky there is even an audience. if both of the scenarios happen (big show and hbk wins) would it really surprise you??? we could have prolly subbed the names of hhh and hogan earlier this year and had the same discussion ie. "there is no way they would put the belt on hogan" and there is no way jericho should lose the hell in a cell". do not trust vince mcmahon to do the logical thing... EVER!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Last Free Voice Report post Posted November 15, 2002 no not surprise me. Just drive me INSANE and to TNA and puro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dangerous A Report post Posted November 15, 2002 I will wait to hear what Meltz has to say on this as he's just a bit more credible, although Vince switching his mind 10 times 3 days before the show is now the norm. I just wish more people could see that Vince's Vision for wrestling is not a very good one and that he is more lucky than good when it comes to coming up with a hot product. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 15, 2002 Big Show ending Brock's reign of horror. That would be bittersweet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted November 15, 2002 The smartest thing to do would be to let HHH/HBK feud alone and have another two (Jericho/Booker) feud over the title. Two draws there, rather than wasting both the power of the title draw and the grudge return match draw. Normally this would be stating the obvious, but this is the WWE we're talking about so... godd show, old man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dangerous A Report post Posted November 15, 2002 Big Show ending Brock's reign of horror. That would be bittersweet. But it would potentially fuck up Brock vs Angle for WM IF (and that's a big if right now) that's the plan for Mania. Other than that, bittersweet, and not surprising of Vince since his ratings are up shit's creek sans a paddle and when Vince panics, he goes BIG! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted November 15, 2002 Hello! You're believing the word of TORCH? Who else aside of IBOB makes more shit up just to get hits? No one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted November 15, 2002 Big Show ending Brock's reign of horror. That would be bittersweet. But it would potentially fuck up Brock vs Angle for WM IF (and that's a big if right now) that's the plan for Mania. Good. If they are sending Angle in as a blithering idiot who may lose (If he's the heel), it's better that he doesn't main event. Smackdown SPOILER(Yeah, not huge, but you never know) Please, God, someone tell me I misread the spoilers and he doesn't flick Benoit's nose? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted November 15, 2002 No he makes out with him.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
