austin bigger than rock?only a crakhed would agree

[Guest Bruin]

Look at every rock match, all the rock has to do is do the just bring it sign and throw a punch and the fans erupt

 

Gee, looking back at some of his earlier matches.. (You did specify EVERY match..) when he was afro haired little punk.. Yeah, he got some great reactions.. "Die Rocky Die!" just for a small example..

[Guest the_hurricane]

once again I agree for the most part ecept for AustinHHH4life.....Good God someone needs to give you a spanking lesson to actually believe that austin had the biggest pops ever.....Simply because of the fact that not one pop can compare to the pop rock got at his return in July when he said he would join the wwf........Austin cannot compare...Do you remember the Jay Leno Show last year austin appeared on before wm???  I believe he himself said "ROck is bigger than I'll ever be."  Yes, he said that and I have that damn show recorded still........Right now again, rock has not had a new shirt in awhile....So austin right now is selling more shirts because of that...and as the other person said.....More fans are way into just saying what than austin himself as when the rock cuts a promo, not one what chant has ever came across, I wonder why???

 

Okay, lets roleplay.  You are on a multi million dollar basketball team...say the Los Angeles Lakers.  Your name is Shaquille.  You were quite merchandisable a few years ago, in fact you are the best performer day in and day out in your business.  But alas, although you still go out and bust your ass, there's a new kid in town who is much more face value and appeal to commercialization.  He's just out of high school and has raw talent.  His name is Kobe. You then go onto the Tonight Show with Jay Leno, 5 years later.  And damn it you can still perform.  Still lead the league in scoring.  Still a damn fine basketball player in every sense of the word.  Still in commercials too and making personal appearances.  But young Kobe is now the new thing in the league and his popularity is reaching and surpassing yours.  What do you do when Jay asks, what do you think of your teammate Kobe?  

 

a) Tell Jay that he's alright but should be playing second fiddle to you.

b) Tell Jay that he's all hype still and should have paid his dues in college.

c) Say that Kobe is a damn fine player and that "Kobe is bigger than I'll ever be."  

 

I think C is the best answer for the team isn't it?  

 

And you can't judge anything on return pops because if all of a sudden Rhyno returned you'd hear a substantila pop and then it would die down to crickets again...nothing against Rhyno though, he was the first one to come to mind.

oh I can talk about return pops cause austin's return pop actually sucked and it was said his return did not draw so big which is whjy the rock who was way over had to step down and the booking team had to make austin so dominant to rock as they usually do because that is the only way austin will be more over than rock because if they were equal in every way, ausstin would be so under the rock fan wise that it would be pitiful.....So that is how they do it and the first thing they did was have foley say that rock only got so big and sold so many t-shirts because austin was out which that was not even the case but rubbing it iin fans faces like they did was just stupid and it hurt the rock's popularioty which is what they wanted so that austin can be more popular than him again which is just the thing that makes me sick....Compare aussitn's return to ropck's return.....No comparison,,,,Rock is the more popular man in the busines since october 99 and is still the most popular face righ now.....deal with it...

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

"He may not technically but after scorpion King comes out and kicks ass like the mummy 2 did, then there will have only be one thing left for the rock to do and that is to beat austin which I know they are going to set that up in the coming year either at summerslam, survivor series or next year's wm...... "

 

All indications are that Scorpion King will be the biggest bomb since the remake of Rollerball.

[Guest converge241]

Maybe Hurricane is only rational when he's in "mild-mannered" reporter mode

**rimshot**

And can we get it straight?

If we disagree are we crackheads or doing cocaine?

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

Notice how the crackheads are the ones that use proper punctuation and spelling.

[Guest the_hurricane]

Bruin, good god get a life...........Stop trying to be the man on Vince Mcmahon's ass kissing list....It isn't working for you, I think you need a new gimmick, perhaps joining Chuck and Billy may suit you (jee I hope it doesn't)

[Guest the_hurricane]

"He may not technically but after scorpion King comes out and kicks ass like the mummy 2 did, then there will have only be one thing left for the rock to do and that is to beat austin which I know they are going to set that up in the coming year either at summerslam, survivor series or next year's wm...... "

 

All indications are that Scorpion King will be the biggest bomb since the remake of Rollerball.

I believe that is what you hope it is because eventhough it will gross like the Mummy 2 did, I know you hope it bombs cause when it grosses like the mummy the rock will have technically surpassed hogan in Hollywood leaving only one thing left for the great one and that is beating austin....Then as we all know ol baby rattle will be finished with the company.....

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

If Scorpion King was so good, how come Rock has been away recently re-shooting most of his scenes?

[Guest the_hurricane]

Maybe Hurricane is only rational when he's in "mild-mannered" reporter mode

**rimshot**

And can we get it straight?

If we disagree are we crackheads or doing cocaine?

disagreeing means that you are so retarded that not only can you not tell your right from your left, or not only do you not know how to change your socks, but, do you even know how to talk??????  Hey what is 1+1????  God you suck ass....Hopefully it is not austin's...

[Guest the_hurricane]

If Scorpion King was so good, how come Rock has been away recently re-shooting most of his scenes?

he only spent 3 and a half months doing the movie simply saying the movie was rushed.........So I believe that is why he had to re-shoot......Again I guess you do not know how to read and is just finding something negative to say about the rock since you are mad that he is the top star and not austin or THE LAME

[Guest converge241]

"do you even know how to talk??????  Hey what is 1+1????  God you suck ass....Hopefully it is not austin's..."

 

uh oh

multiple question marks?

no, it cant be

the hurricane is.......xkiller gon hit em up

[Guest Bruin]

LMAO! This kid is hialrious.. In a bad way, but still..

 

Not once did anything you say in your little flame about me make any sense at all.

 

Bruin, good god get a life...........Stop trying to be the man on Vince Mcmahon's ass kissing list....It isn't working for you, I think you need a new gimmick, perhaps joining Chuck and Billy may suit you (jee I hope it doesn't)

 

Okay, I need to get a life? You're the one who's responded 18 times to your own thread.

 

How am I kissing McMahons ass now? Because I don't agree with you? lol And what again do you think my gimmick is? I have none. I'm no gimmick poster.

[Guest Bruin]

No Converge, xkiller was the "gangster" of the forum. This guy is just a mark with some internet links it seems

[Guest Hogan Made Wrestling]

"All indications are that Scorpion King will be the biggest bomb since the remake of Rollerball."

 

Just what indications are these? The slickly produced trailers? The franchise that has already produced 2 huge movies? I guess it's just your opinion. Of course, if Benoit made a movie you would probably claim it would outgross Titanic.

 

"If Scorpion King was so good, how come Rock has been away recently re-shooting most of his scenes?"

 

Those scenes were re-scheduled due to fears of a strike earlier this year (I believe it was the writers association, although it may have been the sceen actors guild). And you seem to equate good with high grossing, which have absolutely nothing to do with one another (see Titanic, Star Wars Phantom Menace, Harry Potter, etc.). I don't think the movie will be an oscar contender by any means, but that doesn't mean it won't do a big gate.

[Guest Carbon Tiger]

I feel dumber for having read this thread. Anyway, lets end this argument once and for all:

 

1)Rock is the bigger cross over guy.

 

2)Austin is the bigger name in wrestling.

 

Simple there done.

 

3)All this blathering about T Shirts sales (which Hurricane backs up with no facts at all.) Austin sells more shirts its a FACT. Not that means anything sense when do shirt sales make a wrestler anyway.

 

4)BPS being a HHH mark. In the twilight zone perhaps. But as it stands now he hates HHH more then any other human being I've ever seen in my entire life.

 

5)Scorpion King is gonna suck everyone involved in movies is saying that. Come on is it that surprising Hogan made a truckload of bad movies.

 

6)Hurricane switch to decaf, serously all this anger and fourth grade insults only make you look dumb. If you want what your saying to be read and have any meaning at all put some tought into it.

[Guest Cheech13]

The problem with this argument is that no one has stated in what terms is Rock or Austin the bigger star.  To the average fan, Rock is far bigger.  He is the mainstream crossover celeb that Hogan tried to be.  He is bigger than Hogan, Flair, Austin or anyone else in history.  A person with no knowledge of wrestling knows Austin, Rock and Hogan.  But to this person, Austin fits the redneck-hick image of wrestling fans.  Hogan represents the cartoonish 80s image.  Rock is the first wrestler that seems 'cool' to the non-fan.

 

Now, in terms of being important to wrestling, most seem to argue that Austin is bigger because he has been the no. 1 guy.  The same people are arguing that those who argue for Rock are doing so in markish terms.  I find this ironic because the idea of the no.1 guy seems markish.  I mean how many titles a guy has or how long he has held the belt are nice, but Rock is a guy that never needed the belt to get over.  Austin has; it's that simple.

 

HHH was the center of the promotion in 2000, but he was always being booked against Rock.  In fact, I would say that the first part of that year, which saw the WWF's highest ratings were actually based around Rock's pursuit of the title.  If you want to argue that HHH was really responsible for those ratings, then the same can be said for McMahon during his feud with Austin.  Austin didn't draw until he was booked against the owner in a fresh direction that turned the company around.  The buyrates he drew, however, failed in comparison to that of the Rock.

 

In terms of merchandising, Austin blew him away in '98 with the 3:16 shirt, and has been now as well.  But I read that in late 99 and 2000 the Rock was outselling what Austin did nearly 2 to 1.  Granted that has to be adjusted because crowds were bigger and Austin was injured, but it is still impressive.

 

Rock's return drew bigger ratings than that of Austin.  His pop was considerably larger.  Rock is the star of the WWF, he just hasn't been booked to do so.  How many TV jobs has he done compared to Austin?  And his heat has remained.  Austin's turn last year was a considerable failure.  Rock's turn in '99 had most people rooting for him against Austin!

 

Austin has refused to work with Hogan.  I think Meltzer reported this.  This doesn't mean Hogan would have faced Austin at WM 18, it just means he never wanted to work with him.  I would assume that he would in the future, but this is Wrestlemania.  Rock v. Hogan is the money match.  They know if Hogan's return has any legs, they have to pull the big matches immediately.  That's why he gets Rock at WM.

[Guest 5_moves_of_doom]

To answer your questions.

 

1.) Austin has publicly announced that he will not wrestle Hogan because of backstage politics. The WWF could probably convince him to but even then like One Bad Apple said they want to save Austin vs. Hogan for the match that puts the nail in the coffin for the nWo, they save the biggest star for last.

 

2.) They don't, they've done it once or twice because they want Rocky to interfere and make the save. Also, the main reason they chan't Rocky a lot is because it's easy to chant, do you think they would chant for RVD so much if his name was Ronaldo Simpleton? I didn't think so.

 

3.) Um, the fans DO go wild when Austin poses.

[Guest the_hurricane]

cheech, you are absolutely 100% correct on that one....

 

5_ways_to_suck_dick......You are the main crackhead in this forum, shut the hell up....

[Guest the_hurricane]

I feel dumber for having read this thread. Anyway, lets end this argument once and for all:

 

1)Rock is the bigger cross over guy.

 

2)Austin is the bigger name in wrestling.

 

Simple there done.

 

3)All this blathering about T Shirts sales (which Hurricane backs up with no facts at all.) Austin sells more shirts its a FACT. Not that means anything sense when do shirt sales make a wrestler anyway.

 

4)BPS being a HHH mark. In the twilight zone perhaps. But as it stands now he hates HHH more then any other human being I've ever seen in my entire life.

 

5)Scorpion King is gonna suck everyone involved in movies is saying that. Come on is it that surprising Hogan made a truckload of bad movies.

 

6)Hurricane switch to decaf, serously all this anger and fourth grade insults only make you look dumb. If you want what your saying to be read and have any meaning at all put some tought into it.

uh both the mummy 1 and mummy 2 were horribly rated, why is it that the mummy 2 grossed triple of what mummy 1 did?  Simple because of the rock, Universal even said it themselves that the main reason why it grossed was because of the great one himself....Just like Scorpion King is gonna gross because of the greaat one.....Then rock will have destroyed hogan's hollywood career........

 

I put enough info to back up my statements.  and by the way I do not drink coffee......Unlike you who has the thirst of pee.....Pretty much like regal

[Guest mastermind]

I feel pretty silly now analyzing all of this stuff after the last few posts. The post has gone to hell. Cheech13 you make some solid points. I wonder how over Austin or Triple H would be if they were booked like Rock. That tying into Mcmahon screwing over Hart and becoming Mr. Mcmahon. The wwf's first segment to beat Nitro was actually Mcmahon/Austin in a "match" in 1998. The following week Nitro was kingpin. It wasn't all Austin. Mcmahon's heat had a lot to do with the wwf's comeback which he still seems to think fans want to see from time to time(it's played out and hope he stays in the role he is in now through video). Austin's true mainstream casual fan heat came at the hands of facing Mcmahon. I think it's safe to say Triple H was no where the heel heat machine of Mcmahon in late 1999 or early 2000. I still back my claims that Triple H wasn't truly over until he beat Rock at WrestleMania. His matches with Foley started to give him credibility as champion which is different.

 

As for Rock's movie I admit it is kind of suspect he has to do all these re-shoots. Oh, Die Rocky Die is a low blow.  I admit I did chuckle at that. No one ever brought up Ringmaster*lol*.

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

"Then rock will have destroyed hogan's hollywood career........"

 

What career?  Hogan hasn't done anything in years, and nothing since Rocky III has made money.

[Guest Anthony]

ROCK is the much bigger star. He IS bigger than Austin. The fans are not into Austin as much as they are into his WHAT?! Catchphrase. WHAT is over, not necessarily Austin. Hear that non-pop Austin got at No Way Out? That is because he wasn't saying WHAT,WHAT,WHAT?! ROCK gets the biggest pops and when Austin was out, him and HHH did huge business. WHen AUstin came back, business actually went down because ROCK played a secondary role to Austin. And contrary to what Jeff Marek says, and who really listens since he is the dumbass that said Mania was going to be headlined by Austin vs HHH when Meltzer and ALvarez said there was a 0% percent chance of that happening, Austin didn't turn down a match vs HOgan. That was never the plan. ROCK VS HOGAN WAS ALWAYS THE PLAN.  At first, they had considered, like Marek said like it was a fact(when in reality it was just an idea) to go with Austin vs HHH, but both nixed it because Austin didn't want to be a transitional champ(read: Do another job for HHH without one in return) and HHH wanted Jericho in the spot, partly because he didn't wanted to share his face heat with Austin. Austin is a big star but ROCK will ALWAYS be the main event at Wrestlemania. Austin isn't, ROCK IS. Jericho is.HHH is. And Hogan is.  Austin is working a midcard match. Do you think they would put ROCK third from the top at a Wrestlemania?

Not a bad point, but then again, Austin and Rock have met at Wrestlemania twice, and who won both times?

[Guest converge241]

OMG

we are not going to introduce their won-lost record against each other into this argument are we?

Its like Austin (infinity) vs Rock (zero).

i think in an already ludicrous discusssion we cannot take that for any relevance.

Thats like this drunk guy a a really bad Thunder years ago.

This dude was yelling at everyone "hogan's the best" "hogan's the greatest of all time".

Me and my friends just finally asked him why he was the best cause he wasnt on the damn show and this guy went on and on for 90 minutes.

His reply:

"He's the champ!"

well are (whoever were the tag champs at the time) the best?

"No!!! they suck!!"

Well, they are the champions.

"They are???? theyre the best team in the woooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrlllllllllllddddddddddddd!!!!!! Hogan rules!!!!"

 

Hey if you wanna accept somebody as being better cause theyre booked that way by some random third party i guess thats cool, it just seems weird.

[Guest Anthony]

OMG

we are not going to introduce their won-lost record against each other into this argument are we?

Its like Austin (infinity) vs Rock (zero).

i think in an already ludicrous discusssion we cannot take that for any relevance.

Thats like this drunk guy a a really bad Thunder years ago.

This dude was yelling at everyone "hogan's the best" "hogan's the greatest of all time".

Me and my friends just finally asked him why he was the best cause he wasnt on the damn show and this guy went on and on for 90 minutes.

His reply:

"He's the champ!"

well are (whoever were the tag champs at the time) the best?

"No!!! they suck!!"

Well, they are the champions.

"They are???? theyre the best team in the woooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrlllllllllllddddddddddddd!!!!!! Hogan rules!!!!"

 

Hey if you wanna accept somebody as being better cause theyre booked that way by some random third party i guess thats cool, it just seems weird.

The point is, if Rock was so much more bigger than Austin, he would've won at the WWF's biggest event of the year against Austin, but instead he lost...not once, but twice.

 

Also, the person who started this thread is quite biased. "I hate Austin with a passion"

[Guest converge241]

Ok i see your point now.

I guess ill just leave it as "The Hurricane" and his crack being better than both Austin and Rock.

Ive been at work today way too long and its time to get out of here

[Guest AlwaysPissedOff]

The problem with this argument is that no one has stated in what terms is Rock or Austin the bigger star.  To the average fan, Rock is far bigger.  He is the mainstream crossover celeb that Hogan tried to be.  He is bigger than Hogan, Flair, Austin or anyone else in history.  A person with no knowledge of wrestling knows Austin, Rock and Hogan.  But to this person, Austin fits the redneck-hick image of wrestling fans.  Hogan represents the cartoonish 80s image.  Rock is the first wrestler that seems 'cool' to the non-fan.

 

Now, in terms of being important to wrestling, most seem to argue that Austin is bigger because he has been the no. 1 guy.  The same people are arguing that those who argue for Rock are doing so in markish terms.  I find this ironic because the idea of the no.1 guy seems markish.  I mean how many titles a guy has or how long he has held the belt are nice, but Rock is a guy that never needed the belt to get over.  Austin has; it's that simple.

 

HHH was the center of the promotion in 2000, but he was always being booked against Rock.  In fact, I would say that the first part of that year, which saw the WWF's highest ratings were actually based around Rock's pursuit of the title.  If you want to argue that HHH was really responsible for those ratings, then the same can be said for McMahon during his feud with Austin.  Austin didn't draw until he was booked against the owner in a fresh direction that turned the company around.  The buyrates he drew, however, failed in comparison to that of the Rock.

 

In terms of merchandising, Austin blew him away in '98 with the 3:16 shirt, and has been now as well.  But I read that in late 99 and 2000 the Rock was outselling what Austin did nearly 2 to 1.  Granted that has to be adjusted because crowds were bigger and Austin was injured, but it is still impressive.

 

Rock's return drew bigger ratings than that of Austin.  His pop was considerably larger.  Rock is the star of the WWF, he just hasn't been booked to do so.  How many TV jobs has he done compared to Austin?  And his heat has remained.  Austin's turn last year was a considerable failure.  Rock's turn in '99 had most people rooting for him against Austin!

 

Austin has refused to work with Hogan.  I think Meltzer reported this.  This doesn't mean Hogan would have faced Austin at WM 18, it just means he never wanted to work with him.  I would assume that he would in the future, but this is Wrestlemania.  Rock v. Hogan is the money match.  They know if Hogan's return has any legs, they have to pull the big matches immediately.  That's why he gets Rock at WM.

You make a lot of valid points, but there's just one thing you forgot: Austin, like Rock, never needed the belt to get over. From late 96 to WM 14 he was over as hell with the Hart feud and the beginnings of the McMahon feud.

 

With that being said, I'm finished with this thread for good. Childish fanboys like hurricane just get annoying after a while and the lil dipshit already stated that he was biased anyways. Looking through rose-colored lenses doesn't make your opinion right, kid. Just thought you'd like to know.

 

 

And with that, I'm finished with this.

[Guest the_hurricane]

OMG

we are not going to introduce their won-lost record against each other into this argument are we?

Its like Austin (infinity) vs Rock (zero).

i think in an already ludicrous discusssion we cannot take that for any relevance.

Thats like this drunk guy a a really bad Thunder years ago.

This dude was yelling at everyone "hogan's the best" "hogan's the greatest of all time".

Me and my friends just finally asked him why he was the best cause he wasnt on the damn show and this guy went on and on for 90 minutes.

His reply:

"He's the champ!"

well are (whoever were the tag champs at the time) the best?

"No!!! they suck!!"

Well, they are the champions.

"They are???? theyre the best team in the woooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrlllllllllllddddddddddddd!!!!!! Hogan rules!!!!"

 

Hey if you wanna accept somebody as being better cause theyre booked that way by some random third party i guess thats cool, it just seems weird.

The point is, if Rock was so much more bigger than Austin, he would've won at the WWF's biggest event of the year against Austin, but instead he lost...not once, but twice.

 

Also, the person who started this thread is quite biased. "I hate Austin with a passion"

uh rock lost to austin the first tiume cause rock was a heel and the second time because he took the time off to do his movie....it wouldn't look right if rock wins then looses it the very next night on raw.....That can kill his character and that is also something austin would not do either........Good god you certainly are the crackhead...

[Guest the_hurricane]

The problem with this argument is that no one has stated in what terms is Rock or Austin the bigger star.  To the average fan, Rock is far bigger.  He is the mainstream crossover celeb that Hogan tried to be.  He is bigger than Hogan, Flair, Austin or anyone else in history.  A person with no knowledge of wrestling knows Austin, Rock and Hogan.  But to this person, Austin fits the redneck-hick image of wrestling fans.  Hogan represents the cartoonish 80s image.  Rock is the first wrestler that seems 'cool' to the non-fan.

 

Now, in terms of being important to wrestling, most seem to argue that Austin is bigger because he has been the no. 1 guy.  The same people are arguing that those who argue for Rock are doing so in markish terms.  I find this ironic because the idea of the no.1 guy seems markish.  I mean how many titles a guy has or how long he has held the belt are nice, but Rock is a guy that never needed the belt to get over.  Austin has; it's that simple.

 

HHH was the center of the promotion in 2000, but he was always being booked against Rock.  In fact, I would say that the first part of that year, which saw the WWF's highest ratings were actually based around Rock's pursuit of the title.  If you want to argue that HHH was really responsible for those ratings, then the same can be said for McMahon during his feud with Austin.  Austin didn't draw until he was booked against the owner in a fresh direction that turned the company around.  The buyrates he drew, however, failed in comparison to that of the Rock.

 

In terms of merchandising, Austin blew him away in '98 with the 3:16 shirt, and has been now as well.  But I read that in late 99 and 2000 the Rock was outselling what Austin did nearly 2 to 1.  Granted that has to be adjusted because crowds were bigger and Austin was injured, but it is still impressive.

 

Rock's return drew bigger ratings than that of Austin.  His pop was considerably larger.  Rock is the star of the WWF, he just hasn't been booked to do so.  How many TV jobs has he done compared to Austin?  And his heat has remained.  Austin's turn last year was a considerable failure.  Rock's turn in '99 had most people rooting for him against Austin!

 

Austin has refused to work with Hogan.  I think Meltzer reported this.  This doesn't mean Hogan would have faced Austin at WM 18, it just means he never wanted to work with him.  I would assume that he would in the future, but this is Wrestlemania.  Rock v. Hogan is the money match.  They know if Hogan's return has any legs, they have to pull the big matches immediately.  That's why he gets Rock at WM.

You make a lot of valid points, but there's just one thing you forgot: Austin, like Rock, never needed the belt to get over. From late 96 to WM 14 he was over as hell with the Hart feud and the beginnings of the McMahon feud.

 

With that being said, I'm finished with this thread for good. Childish fanboys like hurricane just get annoying after a while and the lil dipshit already stated that he was biased anyways. Looking through rose-colored lenses doesn't make your opinion right, kid. Just thought you'd like to know.

 

 

And with that, I'm finished with this.

Uh I believe the rock never needed the belt to get over either.  Before his heel turn at survivor Series 98 he was like one of the top faces....and not only that but the incident at raw after rock screwed austin when austin faced HHH when austin called rock out he was way over with the fans which proved austin's staleness especially compared to the rock and the rock wasn't the champion either....So again, only a crackhead would agree,,,,and you are on the list as usual

[Guest AlwaysPissedOff]

Uh I believe the rock never needed the belt to get over either.  Before his heel turn at survivor Series 98 he was like one of the top faces....and not only that but the incident at raw after rock screwed austin when austin faced HHH when austin called rock out he was way over with the fans which proved austin's staleness especially compared to the rock and the rock wasn't the champion either....So again, only a crackhead would agree,,,,and you are on the list as usual

 

As usually proven throughout this entire thread, you proved you're a brain-damaged fanboy. If you had actually READ my first paragraph, you'd notice I said, "Austin, like ROCK...", but as usual, you ignore all logic and react like the pathetic fanboy you are. This is getting beyond Anglesault/Anglympic Slam bad...

[Guest Eraser2K2]

Well I kinda skipped through about 3/4 of this thread due to the annoying lack of logic by, well, the hurricane.  So if I say something someone has already said, then forgive me.  

 

But Austin is bigger than Rock in the wrestling business.  Rock is more of a mainstream guy.  I know that was said, but let me elaborate on it some more.  Austin had a part on Nash Bridges as a bad ass.  And his spinoff would of been him as..a bad ass.  Thats what he is.  It isn't very marketable in the mainstream.  Its why he wasn't on Time Magazine, why he wasn't at the Republican Convention, and why he hasn't done most of the stuff the Rock has done.  Austin isn't exactly the best looking either, and Rock is more marketable in that category as well.  So yeah, the Rock has one up on Austin there.  Good for him, hes a nice pretty boy.

 

But to think the Rock has ANYTHING on Austin in terms of importance to the wrestling business is ludicrous.  If it weren't for Austin, the Rock would have never been able to get over with the cocky attitude.  If it weren't for Austin, the Rock would have never had that huge IC run that made the Rock.  If it weren't for Austin..I think you get the point.  Austin (and McMahon, I guess) made the Attitude era.  The Rock strived in the Attitude era.  Logic, people, logic.