EL DANDY~! Posted December 11, 2002 Report Posted December 11, 2002 I've only seen four Ohtani matches...and three of em are from 2001...so it ain't the good shit. The fourth was a clipped match with Benoit from April of 95 I believe... So my question to you, oh Puro comrades...suggest a match to me that would make me a big fan of Ohtani. Granted, I was gonna get a copy of Starrcade 95, but if something else entices...I'd like to see it. Your thoughts?
Guest Tim Cooke Posted December 11, 2002 Report Posted December 11, 2002 Just get the J Crown Comml Tape. Then work back and get: 1/21/96 v Sammy 3/17/96 v Liger 3/20/96 v Benoit 2/9/97 v Liger Tim
Guest The Mighty Damaramu Posted December 11, 2002 Report Posted December 11, 2002 Looking for a good Ohtani match is like looking for an chinese man in china town....they're everywhere!
Guest RickyChosyu Posted December 11, 2002 Report Posted December 11, 2002 Yes, the J*Crown is '96. "Is this some kind of rib?" Nah, the type of ribs this place would get would probably be much deliberate, like say, declaring Hogan/Andre the best match ever. You know, high concept stuff.
EL DANDY~! Posted December 11, 2002 Author Report Posted December 11, 2002 All I know is that you guys think he's a great performer in that ring and I want to see what all the fuss is about.
Guest Black Tiger Posted December 11, 2002 Report Posted December 11, 2002 Look in matches to check out, I'm sure there are plenty of them listed. Look for his two matches vs. Tajiri (1/4/97, and on the BOSJ comm.), his BOSJ 1994 vs. TAKA, and don't forget his J* Crown match vs. Benoit (Final Power Hall in Tokyo Dome IIRC)
Guest DragonflyKid Posted December 11, 2002 Report Posted December 11, 2002 The following tape is a good starter, after watching it I definitely wanted to go pick up more Ohtani's work. It doesn't have his greatest matches or have matches in full but you get a good sense of what kind of wrestler he is. At GoldenBoyTapes.com it's only $7.00 and has VG VQ. SHINJIRO OHTANI: PREMIUM ISSUE Ohtani vs. Kanemoto 6/23/95 (CL) 7:55 of 30:00 Ohtani vs. Kanemoto 9/14/98 (CL) 11:00 of 19:08 Ohtani vs. Kashin 10/23/97 (CL) 5:30 of 5:40 Ohtani/Kanemoto/Takaiwa vs. Lyger/Ka Shin/Dr. Wagner Jr. 4/13/98 (CL) 7:05 of 11:47 Ohtani vs. Michinoku 5/28/94 (CL) 4:30 of 10:16 Ohtani vs. Tajiri 5/20/97 (CL) 5:10 of 11:44 Ohtani/Takaiwa vs. Lyger/Great Sasuke 4/13/99 (CL) 7:10 of 11:17 Ohtani vs. El Samurai 10/16/97 (CL) 5:15 of 13:31 Ohtani vs. El Samurai 5/19/98 (CL) 4:45 of 14:55 Ohtani vs. Takaiwa 9/16/95 (CL) 5:00 of 9:00 Ohtani vs. Takaiwa 5/31/98 (CL) 5:45 of 17:46 Ohtani vs. Liger 6/6/94 (JIP) 7:15 of 18:52 Ohtani vs. Liger 11/4/95 (CL) 7:25 of 16:42 Ohtani/Sasaki vs. Tenzan/Kojima 3/24/99 (JIP) 10:55 of 14:28
Guest RickyChosyu Posted December 11, 2002 Report Posted December 11, 2002 The '96 matches Tim listed are pretty much proof beyond any doubt that Ohtani was a God-like performer. He's long since fallen off the mountain, it would seem.
EL DANDY~! Posted December 11, 2002 Author Report Posted December 11, 2002 He looked OK in the 2001 matches, but he didn't look like the cheating rudo-like god that people made him out to be.
Guest RickyChosyu Posted December 12, 2002 Report Posted December 12, 2002 Yeah, even before the transfer to heavyweight, he was developing bad habbits. A lot of people are still huge fans of his character and continue to enjoy his work, but he hasn't done anything that comes close to his 1996. If you see that stuff, the hype will start to make sense to you.
Guest Black Tiger Posted December 12, 2002 Report Posted December 12, 2002 Ohtani from 1994-1997 was a real treat, he was so damn good and had that great attitude, but it seems like after he droped the Title to Lyger, he lost his motovation, and the team with Takaiwa was doing for Takaiwa than it was for him.
Guest blachuuh_monkey Posted December 13, 2002 Report Posted December 13, 2002 Ohtani/Benoit vs Sasuke/Black Tiger 2 matches from the 1994 tag tournament (I'm not sure which one but someone here can tell you) are both awesome matches in my opinion.
EL DANDY~! Posted December 13, 2002 Author Report Posted December 13, 2002 That's the only ever Top of the Junior Tag League, right?
Guest RickyChosyu Posted December 13, 2002 Report Posted December 13, 2002 Correct. It's listed in the pinned thread if you want the dates.
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