Guest converge241 Report post Posted December 13, 2002 Moby is bruised and "very curious" after getting jumped Wednesday night outside a Boston club. After performing at the Paradise Club, the electronic music guru was signing autographs for fans when two or three men attacked him with mace and repeatedly punched him. "I assumed that a bar fight had spilled out of the bar and that somehow I had gotten caught in the middle of it," Moby wrote on his Web site. "But no. After being punched in the head from behind a few times, I turned around to see what was going on and one of them punched me in the face a couple of times and then they all ran away. So now I'm sitting here bloody and beaten up and waiting to file a police report." A spokesperson for the Boston Police Department said officers were called to the scene, where they interviewed the owner of the club and doorman, who was also sprayed with mace when he tried to stop the fight. Police later interviewed Moby at his hotel, where he said his glasses broke during the fight, rendering him unable to describe the attackers. Moby, who has bruises and stitches on his face, wrote on his Web site that he's not badly hurt and that his biggest concern is finding out why he was jumped. He pleaded for one of the attackers to anonymously log on to his message board and explain the incident. "I'm very curious as to why three men would coordinate an attack on me," Moby wrote. "You know, three against one? And the 'one' in question is me, hardly the most physically threatening person in the world." In a later posting, Moby said he's not angry with the men and believes in forgiveness. "I just hope that at some point in these guys' lives they come to realize that hurting other people is wrong." He also speculated on why he was attacked. "Maybe they don't like skinny bald guys who play cover songs. I'm sure that's it. It's my fault. I should've posted a warning on the entrance to the club: 'Warning: Tonight's show will at times be comprised of cover songs poorly played by Moby, a skinny bald musician.' " Police are searching for two white men, approximately 22 years old. Their tip line is (800) 494-TIPS. idiots Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Renegade Report post Posted December 13, 2002 Stupid stupid people... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Incandenza Report post Posted December 13, 2002 Damn that Eminem! Someone had to say it.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cynicalprofit Report post Posted December 13, 2002 Couldnt have happened to a more worthy sellout. Still if you beat someone up because a muscian tells you to you're a frigging idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redbaron51 Report post Posted December 13, 2002 This guy is my hero Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B. Brian Brunzell 0 Report post Posted December 13, 2002 I'd be crushed if I gave a shit about Moby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted December 13, 2002 I think Moby's one of the most overrated "musicians" of our time...I'd rather it didn't happen though, I guess...I dunno. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest KingOfOldSchool Report post Posted December 13, 2002 I can't say I care about the guy, but that's fucked up. Although, his understanding, compassion and general lack of pissed-off feelings towards the three idiots perplex me. Damn hippie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kinetic Report post Posted December 13, 2002 Seriously. Any self-respecting musician would have hired all the bounty hunters ten suitcases full of cocaine baggies could buy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted December 13, 2002 The sell-out argument is one that I don't get still. He didn't make the music worse to earn a dollar, he just saw an opportunity to make some cash which he did. Ain't nothing wrong with that. I still can't understand why they'd want to fight him though.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kinetic Report post Posted December 14, 2002 Leasing out a large chunk of a whole album to various corporations for use in commercials could definitely be construed as selling out. Quite frankly, I would rather not hear songs that I enjoy being used to shill beer or cars or whatever. Especially when these marketing people seem to take great delight in using songs in completely inappropriate situations, i.e. "Lust For Life" being used to sell travel packages. That said, I do not now nor have I ever given a fuck about Moby, so he can do whatever he wants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Incandenza Report post Posted December 14, 2002 Moby sold out back in 1994, when he signed to the Warner-owned Elektra label; selling off every song from Play for commercial purposes is just a really annoying extension of it. I think some people forget signing to a major label is selling out, too. Get over it, ferchrissakes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2002 How is trying to expand your audience selling out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cynicalprofit Report post Posted December 14, 2002 The sell-out argument is one that I don't get still. He didn't make the music worse to earn a dollar, he just saw an opportunity to make some cash which he did. Ain't nothing wrong with that. He sold out the moment he leased out all his songs for cheap for use in commercials. I think some people forget signing to a major label is selling out, too. Get over it, ferchrissakes. Yes it is, theres no escaping that, I mean thats part of getting in the music business, because you want to sell alot of records and its hard to do that without major funding. But once you're famous, you dont need to shill doritios, or soda, or anything else. Your a musician, you shouldnt be a spokesman. You also shouldn't be "whoring" yourself to get more publicity. How is trying to expand your audience selling out? Well from what I remember, he wasnt to popular before he licensed out his music for mass commerical use. So he was only able to expand his audience by selling out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kinetic Report post Posted December 14, 2002 It's futile even trying to explain it. It just is. There's a certain group of music fans to whom any kind of step a musician takes to expand his or her own pocketbook--even if it's just enough to subsist on--is seen as selling out. These people generally come from money, which makes it a whole lot easier to choose ethics over art. That said, it's entirely possible to create good music on a major record label. It wasn't even until the 1980s, when music had splintered out into so many different genres and subgenres that it was impossible to sign or market everyone, that the "independent > major" argument was lent any sort of creedence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Your Paragon of Virtue 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2002 Indeed, but only part of the truth I think. I think it stems from a sense of identity, or individuality. I hate those whiny "fans" who, in a sense, get jealous because now the main reason they're angry is not because the band is selling out, but because it isn't unique for them anymore, as in it's not just for them. A lot of people listen to it now, and they can no longer enjoy a specific brand of music that no one else has heard of, thus causing that very song/band/album to lose its appeal. The whole thing is full of shit anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted December 14, 2002 Who here wouldn't sell out. You're securing your future and in some cases your families future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted December 14, 2002 I am completely indifferent to a band making money unless their music suffers because of their attempts to make it more marketable. Moby's pop-techno sound is meant to be listener-friendly and fairly vanilla, hence its usage in commercials and shit. Thrash, Gangsta Rap, basically anything venturing outside of the middle of the road isn't going to sell Pepsi or whatever. Logically, when a company wants to get an endorsement, they're going to go for the person that appeals to the broadest range of people, unless something possesses them to go after a different target demographic. Moby's music being behind a cd player commercial or whatever doesn't bother me. Britney hawking Pepsi doesn't bother me. CCR's anger-laden Fortunate Son being used to sell jeans while taking the song completely out of context bothers the FUCK out of me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EricMM Report post Posted December 14, 2002 I HATE that jeans commercial!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kibagami Report post Posted December 14, 2002 Selling out is really only an issue if you're so desperate for attention that you'd rather have 'indie cred', whatever the fuck THAT means, than food on the table. And whoop-de-doo, somebody beat the fuck out of Moby. I'm hardly shocked -- you can only do things like protest the eating of turkeys for so long before some drunken, testosterone-laden asshole and friends and relatives thereof start thinking it'd be a good idea to punt you up and down an alley for a little while. K. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ravenbomb Report post Posted December 14, 2002 that's not right. I'd like to state right now that I am against the act of pointlessly mase-ing and beating up of women Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted December 15, 2002 Be upset at John Fogerty who wrote the song. He either gave permission and his receiving a nice check, or he doesn't mind that they use it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest red_file Report post Posted December 15, 2002 Be upset at John Fogerty who wrote the song. He either gave permission and his receiving a nice check, or he doesn't mind that they use it. Fogerty signed away the copyright to the CCR songs to get out of his contract, and therefore has no control over how his music is used. Remember, he's the guy who was sued for copying himself. The record company can decide to use his music as they see fit. Similar to the Beatles/Michael Jackson situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted December 15, 2002 Well that's the risk someone takes when they sign away the rights of a song they write. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted December 15, 2002 Yeah, but doesn't it bother you at all that the song is being portrayed in a "Yay America, let's all go buy these pants," kind of manner when its message is being completely shit on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CoreyLazarus416 Report post Posted December 15, 2002 "Born In The USA," Agent. "Born In The USA." People will take any song that sounds even SLIGHTLY patriotic and use it to market something they want the pseudo-patriots (the ones that think America is about applie pie and a $2 flag) to buy. I mean, The Guess Who's "American Woman" is anti-American (as if the lyrics didn't say it enough), and it's marketed to sell SUVs. I wouldn't be surprised to hear Disturbed's "Prayer" used in a commercial to attract people to a certain Church one day. I am completely indifferent to a band making money unless their music suffers because of their attempts to make it more marketable. Despite our opposing tastes in music (as far as metal goes, anyways), we share a similar belief in what selling-out is and isn't, Agent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cynicalprofit Report post Posted December 15, 2002 How can music not suffer if a musician is to busy hawking shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted December 15, 2002 This "sellout" argument was cliched when Reagan was president. I agree about the CCR commercial though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ravenbomb Report post Posted December 15, 2002 Foley had a really good definition of selling out in Have a Nice Day. Too bad I can't remember what it was, but I remember it beeing really good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted December 15, 2002 Moby sold out back in 1994, when he signed to the Warner-owned Elektra label; selling off every song from Play for commercial purposes is just a really annoying extension of it. I think some people forget signing to a major label is selling out, too. Get over it, ferchrissakes. You say selling out. I say being smart about his future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
