Rock vs. Goldberg at WM?

[Guest Ram]

Rock/Goldberg is a really stupid idea. Both guys are only going to be around for a short amount of time, so it'd be better to pair them off with others who are going to be around. I think the ideal choice would be for Rock to be paired with a newer talent to put over, and Goldberg with Austin. You've still got your moneymaker, it reestablishes Austin as the world's toughest SOB, AND you've got the possibility for a new star. This isn't rocket science.

[Guest Choken One]

From a Business Standpoint, Goldberg still has alot of draw (he is easily one of the top ten wrestling draws of all time) and alot of people haven't forgot him. From a Industry standpoint, It's a horrible move to make. If you intend on signing Goldberg, Might as well make it longer then One Night esp since he won't be hyping WMXIX but The Goldberg Animal Shelter of Atlanta instead when they send him to Leno and Damn Sports show.

 

Bill Goldberg still, as much as we refuse to accept it, would add a few buyrates and pop a rating for two weeks on the name it's self.

 

The best case scenario? They don't sign Goldberg unless he commits to a full term deal for less then $1 million.

[Guest HartFan86]

I think signing him to a short term deal for Mania is better than a long term because if he fails at Mania, then they won't have to worry about getting out of a big long term contract. If he's successful at Mania, then hire him under a long term.

 

I think if they DO sign Goldberg for a short term deal, do it just like they did with Tyson.

 

He comes on TV a month or so before the show and does a bunch of stuff to promote and start a feud with Rock.

 

My personal opinion? Bill Goldberg ended my favorite wrestler (and hero)'s carrer because:

 

1. He doesn't know how to catch the person's leg before they drop back when giving a figure four on the ring post so they don't hit their head on the ground.

 

2. Doesn't know how to properly kick someone in the head.

 

And I'll keep going on and on. Also, remember guys....Goldberg has already been documented saying he has no love for Professional Wrestling and he's in it for the money. In other words...

 

I hate William Goldberg, both wrestler AND human being.

[Guest HartFan86]

I think we can all agree that Wrestlemania 19 could easily make this company do a 180. By that I mean going for a shitty year like 2002 for making money to going to 1998 type money. If they hype it up like they did with Mania 17 WITH CREDIBLE STORYLINES (Rock/Austin feuding as opposed to...I dunno, Lucy the Dog?) then this easily could be the biggest Mania ever. They have the talent to do it and they have the draws to do it. The WWE should be fucking planning the next 4 months of booking out right now if they were smart (If someone gets hurt, change it along the way) so that way they can give themseleves enough time know what the Mania card will be.

 

I'd laugh if they decided that a week before Mania they will start to announce the matches as opposed to, you know, starting up feuds now and confirming matches will take place BEFORE No Way Out so people ordering Mania will feel like it's Christmas Morning the day of Mania.

 

Basically, WWE....go watch from Armageddon 2000 to Wrestlemania 17, and watch how you built up feuds there. Remember when Austin/Rock had that huge staredown at Armageddon then brawled? THAT is how you start a feud and foreshadow what's going to happen and THAT is how you have the greatest PPV ever. If they do this tonight for Lesnar/Angle, then they are on the right track.

[Guest RickyChosyu]

From a Business Standpoint, Goldberg still has alot of draw (he is easily one of the top ten wrestling draws of all time) and alot of people haven't forgot him.

 

The last time Goldberg was on Pay per View, the buy rates he was drawing were on par with ECW's. It's certain that Goldberg was a draw *at one point* but that fact of the matter is that the same Pay Per Views head-lined by Goldberg in WCW were doing about the same numbers as those head lined by Booker T, Scott Steiner, and Kevin Nash.

 

And that was two years ago. Until Goldberg actually draws some audiences in the US, this misconception needs to be avoided like the plague.

 

And the "One Time Deal" is just about the most telling part of this story. The WWE has been flubbing their "quick fix" signings for the better part of this year, so a one-time-deal is what they should stay away from as much as they can. It's this kind of short-sighted crap that got them where they are now.

 

There's only one example that I can think of where a "One night only" deal helped draw viewers, and that was with Mike Tyson, in a non-wrestling role. Every case, be it Carl Malone, Denis Rodman, ect. has been an utter failure and only managed to hurt long term business further.