Great... ok... good god... pure cheese

[Guest CoreyLazarus416]

I dunno, I still consider Goldeneye to be the best Bond flick. Then again, each generation seems to like the Bond they first saw in a new Bond movie...

[Guest NoCalMike]

The Batman series definately went downhill after the underrated Batman Returns.

 

Child's Play was good I think, but 2 & 3 were just pieces of crap.

 

Hellraiser series abandoned the CLive Barker vision after part 2.

 

Scream was intended to be a satire of the horror genre and it was a success, but the fact that there were sequels even made was an insult and made the whole concept of the original Scream a satire in itself.

 

....and Finally, The Night Eyes series lost the steamy nudity "dirty little secret" appeal after the first couple. The amount of Nudity was cut in half azif anyone was watching for the dull plot.

[Guest C.H.U.D.]

Silent Night Deadly Night

I love part 2! It has all the key footage from the original, plus the epic, over the top performance by Eric Freeman as Ricky.

[Guest spiny norman]

Psycho. First one, as we all know, was a classic.

 

Two, Three and Four were not.

 

 

Alien. First one is in my top twenty, second one top fifty. Third one is one of the worst movies in a while. The fourth one redeemed the series a little though. Okay, not really, but it was okay-ish, and therefore better than the third one.

[Guest SP-1]

Corey, I somewhat agree with you. I think Goldeneye was the last really decent dark Bond film. Certainly Brosnan's finest performance in the role.

 

My favorite Bond is Dalton, though. He reminded me more of the Bond found in Fleming's work than anyone else.

 

Die Another Day almost seemed like a parody of the franchise, despite it's attempts at being dark in the beginning. It wasn't a bad popcorn action movie, but I don't feel it was a great Bond movie.

 

But agreed. Overall, the Bond franchise has suffered greatly, especially over the last several films. They've moved away from the darker nature the character should have.

[Guest Flyboy]

Back To The Future after the first two was shit. Thank God, it was only one movie following those.

[Guest SP-1]

Hey, I liked BTTF III.

 

II is the one I'm not too fond of. I don't dislike it, but it seems like it drags in the middle to me.

[Guest cabbageboy]

I thought both BTTF sequels sucked ass....I think they waited too long to do the sequels. Who cared about a guy going to 1985 in 1991? It was already the past for god's sake. The second movie was also quite dreary and dark. That said I do wish I had that sports almanac.

[Guest SP-1]

The thing about BTTF is that it's like LOTR as far as the timeframe that the events happen in. The three films run back to back and likely only encompass a few weeks of time. Dismissing them because one has to remember that bit of chronological information doesn't seem like a valid reason to dismiss a story that took time to tell. But, to each their own.

[Guest BorneAgain]

BTTF III I liked because it rounded out the series rather nicely. I think it all comes down to taste. Part 1 was a charming action comedy, part 3 is a fun western, and part 2 I love because of Thomas Wilson's portrayal as Old and alternate Biff.

[Guest kkktookmybabyaway]

I gotta go w/ Jaws.

 

Jaws 1 = Start of the summer blockbuster.

 

Jaws 4 = Roaring shark that leaps into the air and explodes after getting rammed by a boat.

 

Sigh...

[Guest Anorak]

The 'Shaft' sequels were atrocious films. The African one borders on the plain daft.

 

'Candyman' was one of the best horror films of the 90's but the sequel was poor and completely throwaway in comparison. To my knowledge the series ended there but it wouldn't shock me if there has been further DTV sequels.

[Guest cartman]

Allow me to go out on a limb here and make a BOLD prediction saying that Terminator 3 will SUCK with a capital SUCK!

 

"She'll be back"

 

That friggin line alone makes it look like cheese.

[Guest kkktookmybabyaway]

I saw that trailer for T3 -- I didn't get a good feeling in my stomach.

 

Could have been worse, Arnold may have been saying that about Chyna...

[Guest IDrinkRatsMilk]

They did make a Candyman 3. It was worse than 2, pretty much no redeeming qualities at all.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

Btaman Returns is the best Batman film, because each of the villains are really just a portion of Bruce/Batman himself, but corrupted. Schreck is Bruce Wayne corrupted, Catwoman is the spirit of vengeance inside Batman corrupted, and the Penguin was the freak inside him. Instead of letting the villains steal the film, their used to help us understand Wayne.

 

Franchises that went (noticably) downhill:

 

Jaws

Exorcist

Rocky

Lethal Weapon

007 (To some extent, although it's had it's peaks and gulleys.)

Romero's "Dead" Trilogy

Godfather

Friday the 13th

Nightmare on Elm Street

Halloween

Askewniverse

Snake Pliskin

Batman

Superman

[Guest razazteca]

Franchises that went (noticably) downhill:  Snake Pliskin

 

Escape From NY, was good

Escape From LA, ok but only for the political finish

Escape From the Moon Soldier not really a Snake Pliskin movie but its the basic Kurt Russell action movie

[Guest Mole]

Jaws

Rocky

Freddy

Jason

Halloween

Best of the Best

[Guest Lord of The Curry]

One word. Two syllables. A hundred ways it kicks your ass.

 

ROADHOUSE

[Guest starvenger]

One word. Two syllables. A hundred ways it kicks your ass.

 

ROADHOUSE

they made a sequel to Roadhouse?

[Guest Intimacy Goblin]

they made a sequel to Roadhouse?

Not that I know of but it does stand out as one of the ultimates in cheese.

 

And I think that Tim Burton's remake of Planet of the Apes was horrible. If they only changed the ending I would hail it as excellent. But being a hard fan of the Planet of the Apes series, I was unbelievably disappointed and mildly homicidal after seeing that ending.

[Guest SP-1]

Burton's POTA was horribly bland IMO. I mean, I can watch it, it has a decent pace and the story isn't horrible . . . but it's just . . . I dunno. I have this, "It's just there," vibe from it. Are there plans to continue the franchise under his direction?

 

Hey Zsasz, here's a question: Do you count the Animated Batman movies up there with the live actions entries in the franchise? In my opinion, Mask of the Phantasm stands out, and ranks right up there with Batman Returns as far as getting to the root of who Batman is.

[Guest TheyCallMeMark]

Lethal Weapon

 

I actually like all of the LW movies...

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

Franchises that went (noticably) downhill:  Snake Pliskin

 

Escape From NY, was good

Escape From LA, ok but only for the political finish

Escape From the Moon Soldier not really a Snake Pliskin movie but its the basic Kurt Russell action movie

I felt Escape From LA was exactly the same film as the first, with the unwelcome addition of bad CGI, and an over-poiticzed plot.

 

 

And you know what? Most people agree with me.

 

 

Oh, and Solider takes place in the same universe as Blade Runner, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about.

[Guest Grand Slam]

The thing about BTTF is that it's like LOTR as far as the timeframe that the events happen in. The three films run back to back and likely only encompass a few weeks of time.

 

I'm not sure I understand. In real time, the BTTF trilogy happens over the course of a maybe two weeks. The LOTR Trilogy takes place over a period of over a year from the time Frodo leaves Hobbiton. I know it isn't stated implicitly in the movie, but they spend like two months in Rivendell and about the same amount of time, if not more, in Lorien.

 

Ah Batman, one of the great geek litmus tests. I liked the first one a lot, although I thought Kim basinger was annoying as hell as Vicki Vale. I just don't like Batman Returns. Frankly it should have been called "The Penguin, Catwoman and Christopher Walken Attack Gotham! Featuring Batman". I thought Batman Forever was really good, and a nice change from the dreary, annoying, overly dark Burton (who I do not like) crap. My biggest issue was brought up here and that is the misuse of Two-Face. A crying shame. Batman and Robin was so close to being good that when it failed, it did so with gusto. All of the elements for a good movie were there. Cloony was a great Batman / Bruce Wayne. O'Donnell was a decent Robin. Arnold could have been a good Mr. Freeze. There were moments where you thought, "Wow. Why couldn;t the whole movie been like this?" Batgirl? Suck. Poison Ivy? Suck. Bane? Double Suck. Schumaker? Huge Suck. A shame really.

 

And Star Wars...

 

Yeesh. Give it a rest already. Star Wars should have won Best Picture in 1977. Empire was exactly what the series needed to keep it moving. Jedi was a rousing and mythical finale. Phantom Menace was good for what is was, the very beginning of a long, long story. Attack of the Clones took the setting of Menace, started to twist it and change into the setting for The Trilogy. I am so tired of reading how Empire was great, A new Hope was merely good, Clones was OK and Jedi and Menace sucked.

 

now Jaws... yikes...

[Guest SP-1]

My point wasn't that they have a similar timeframe. I was pointing out that they share the commonality of running together and it has to be considered.

[Paul Stanley 0]

I thought ALL The Rocky's were good, ok ok..5 was not kinda good but come on! Tommy Gunn!

[Guest Grand Slam]

I see what you were saying now SpiderPoet. I misunderstood. And I agree.

 

I have always been in favor of movies that reward the viewer for seeing the earlier installments. BTTF and LOTR are great examples. No recaps, copious references to the older movie and a stright line narrative. Great stuff.

[Guest SP-1]

Aye, they're both great franchises so far.

 

 

It appears that LOTR will escape any kind of cheese in the "sequels". Thankfully. Jackson has said that Return of the King is his favorite of the three.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

Hey Zsasz, here's a question: Do you count the Animated Batman movies up there with the live actions entries in the franchise? In my opinion, Mask of the Phantasm stands out, and ranks right up there with Batman Returns as far as getting to the root of who Batman is.

Yes, I like MoP. It had one of the best plot twists in animated film history, great animation, aKILLER performance by Mark Hamill and it had the Joker beat the shit out of Phantasam (Who sucks) until Batty distracts him. (Everyone says that they knew it before but they're lying, I didn't recognize who the chauferre really was until the second viewing.)