Could you Fight this PREACHER and win???

[Guest Dopey]

Seeing as how some people on this board like to cus at me for preaching the Word of God, I thought to myself hhmmmm??? How many of you would actually try to cus me out if you were standing face to face with me? Then I thought, wouldn't it be cool if we could meet in the ring.

I Dopey representing the GOD of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob; and you fighting for lucifer and all the minions of Hell!

 

My tale of the tape: Height: 5'9" Weight: 187lbs. Bench Press: 225lbs Age: 39

Training and Style: Brazilian JuiJitsu, Sambo, Kempo, Shotokan, and Street fighting.

 

The (hypothetical) match and rules.

"I challenge anyone on this board to a No-Holds-Bared match consisting of 15 minutes, no rounds. You can win by tap-out, knock-out, or doctor stopage. If I win, you have to sit down with me, two cups of coffee and some Krispy Cream doghnuts, for an hour and we talk rationally and civil about God. If you win, you get to take my bible and hold it three inches away from my face and spit on it. Then we sit down at the coffee table and you get to lecture me on the benifits of Hitler, Marx, and your dad lucifer."

 

The die is now cast, the ball is in your court! Could you stand toe to toe with me in the ring? Could you honestly win?

 

If so, give your tale of the tape, training and style, and describe the match from when big John McCarthy says "Are you ready? Are you ready? Let's get it on!!!".

 

P.s. Even if you are not a demon seed, heathen psychotic, but just like to scrap let me know why you are jumping in the ring with me and what the results are.

 

PPs. These are my actual stats. You can ask Dangerous A, Nor-Cal Mike, or Ced Ordonez, since they all work with me and know me.

 

---"standing in the ring, the 'Preacher' rolls his neck, cracks his knuckles and waits...

[Guest SP-1]

::in the locker room, SP watches the monitor, and sips his cup of coffee, shaking his head::

[Guest Kotzenjunge]

The fuck?

 

(pulls out a gun and just shoots this supposed Preacher)

[Guest SP-1]

*sigh*

[Guest Flyboy]

*bans Dopey*

[Guest SP-1]

Wrong forum, there hoss.

 

 

*beltshots Flyboy*

[Guest Angle-plex]

I know Muay Thai, Kempo, and some Boxing, but you have a height and weight advantage over me.

 

Plus, anyone can beat anyone at some point or another.

[Guest AM The Kid]

Interesting idea, but I'm religious too, so no beef with me.

[Guest Flyboy]

*bans Spider over at ST*

[Guest AlwaysPissedOff]

This is almost as retarded as that lame thread you started in Comics.

[Guest Dopey]

I know Muay Thai, Kempo, and some Boxing, but you have a height and weight advantage over me.

 

Plus, anyone can beat anyone at some point or another.

True. That's why it would be a great challenge. And fun.

I usually practice at my pad/dojo for two minute bouts. Because in real life that is what a normal fight lasts before someone steps in and breaks it up.

 

But it's cool to see you at least have the 'testicular fortitude' to step up to the plate!

[Guest IDrinkRatsMilk]

*pulls Ouija board out of tights. summons Satan*

[Guest Sandman9000]

I'd throw down. I'd get my ass beaten though, since a person with knowledge has an obvious advantage over a person who just would try to swing shit.

 

Having gone to a Jesuit high school, I'd be able to rationally talk for a while.

[Guest Zack Malibu]

It strikes me as odd that a "39 year old religious man" would initiate a fight at all, let alone on an internet message board.

 

Dopey, indeed.

[Guest SP-1]

I really wish you'd just calm down and try to relate to people, Dopey. You'll do infinitely better, and it just works out better. We're relational beings. It's how we are wired. To know and be known.

[Guest AndrewisyourHero]

Ok, explain this, preacher man

 

Mary is referred to as the mother of God the son (2nd part of the trinity) in Catholocism.

 

She is also the daughter of God the father, like all women (1st part of the trinity)

 

She is also the bride of God the Holy Spirit (3rd member of the trinity)

 

Explain how Mary can be the mother, daughter, and bride of God, all at the same time, if the three persons make up the one true God.

[Guest IDrinkRatsMilk]

Dopey's going to say he considers Catholocism a cult.

[Guest SP-1]

Ok, explain this, preacher man

 

Mary is referred to as the mother of God the son (2nd part of the trinity) in Catholocism.

 

She is also the daughter of God the father, like all women (1st part of the trinity)

 

She is also the bride of God the Holy Spirit (3rd member of the trinity)

 

Explain how Mary can be the mother, daughter, and bride of God, all at the same time, if the three persons make up the one true God.

Where is she referred to as the bride of the Holy Spirit?

 

For the other things, we're all God's children. It's a generalization about us made throughout the Bible. It applies to Mary as much as anyone else and I don't think it's meant to be taken as a special label for her. The Catholics place a grand importance on her so if that's where you're coming from that's likely why you harbor that perception. But looking at ourselves as sons and daughters of the Father is a broad generalization. Jesus himself made a clear distinction between Himself as the Son and the person of the Father.

 

God chose her as an Earthly means to bring Christ into the world. That makes her His mother. Jesus made a distinction between Himself and the person of the Father, because they are distinct. In earthly matters, she was Jesus of Nazareth's mother. God the Father handled the Christ aspects of who Jesus was.

 

Simply put, Mary fulfilled all of her roles for the various persons of God because those persons are distinct and of themselves, stemming from the base whole of God.

 

As I understand it.

 

 

I know you asked Dopey, but I also figured he'd throw out verses without explaining much. Perhaps you can put my post with what he offers and make something out of it. Keep in mind, however, that the Catholics tend to place importance on things that the rest of Christianity doesn't.

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

I'm 5'11", 150lbs and I know the martial arts of SAFTA, JoeSonDo and NINJITSU!

[Guest evenflowDDT]

Actually one thing I've always wondered about Mary is if the Immaculate Conception means anything other than her being Jesus' mother. Other than that, did she ever do anything else? I don't mean that in a sarcastic or snide way either. What did Mary do in the Bible, and did it have anything to do with Immaculate Conception?

 

Also, who's Mary Magdalene? For the longest time I thought she and the Virgin Mary were the same person.

[Guest IDrinkRatsMilk]

I'll field the Mary Magdalene question. She was a prostitute Jesus encountered in his travels who was going to be stoned. This was the scene of his famous "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." line. She was converted by him and stayed with him the rest of his life. Many think she was probably Jesus' wife. Christians don't usually like that idea, even though there's nothing in the Bible that says he couldn't have been married.

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

Is it accurate to joke with a guy playing Joseph in a nativity by telling him that he gets to "do nothing at all"?

[Guest SP-1]

RatsMilk, where does the notion that Mary Mag. was the same adulterous women from the stoning incident? I don't remember reading a link between the two. In fact, doesn't Jesus tell her to go and repent?

 

I'm not disputing, it's just a new bit of information to me. Just wondering where they are linked.

 

And EfDDT, I think other than the Immaculate Conception and giving birth to Jesus, Mary pretty much just raised Him normally, had other children (James, at least, it's generally thought), and carried on. She was still alive at his crucifiction, I believe.

[Guest IDrinkRatsMilk]

Sorry about that, I mixed up my prostitutes. Mary Magdalene was the one who annointed Jesus with expensive perfume and the disciples bitched her out for wasting it, but Jesus said it was ok. I suppose I should say it isn't expressly stated that that is her, but that's impression I get. That was her first introduction. She starts getting mentioned by name when it says she was at one point possessed by seven demons which Jesus drove out. And she was with him from the 7th or 8th chapter of Luke until his death, and was probably his wife.

[Guest CoreyLazarus416]

My tales of the tape:

Height: 5'11"

Weight: 205 lbs.

Age: 16

Fighting style: Whatever works is what I use

 

Who gives a fuck if you happen to be religious? Only reason people cuss you out is because you feel the need to preach your beliefs to an online community that doesn't share these beliefs.

[Guest Ram]

Explain how Mary can be the mother, daughter, and bride of God, all at the same time, if the three persons make up the one true God.

You obviously haven't spent much time in the South.

 

 

(On a side note: I'd have to agree with Laz here. You're pushing WAY too hard, and it doesn't take an athiest to see that. Calm yourself down, dude. We're the hippos and the balls are obstacles of life. Find your zen, smoke a joint, and jump 15 feet into a crowd of mutants.)

[Guest SP-1]

Explain how Mary can be the mother, daughter, and bride of God, all at the same time, if the three persons make up the one true God.

You obviously haven't spent much time in the South.

 

 

That was great.

[Guest AndrewisyourHero]

I'm basing that off of what a priest visiting my church said, and since he also happens to teach at a semenary in Washington, I figured he should (key word) know that. It's one of those many titles that is associated with Mary.

[Guest So what? I liked bubble boy]

It strikes me as odd that a "39 year old religious man" would initiate a fight at all, let alone on an internet message board.

 

Dopey, indeed.

What kind of post is this????

[Guest SP-1]

I suppose it works in some fashion. God the Father concieved the Son in her through the Holy Spirit. But she was Joseph's wife.

 

In the end . . . He's God. I suppose He can set it up however he likes.