Guest Anglesault Report post Posted January 5, 2003 Dawn can have a use. Like Stacy. In theory, Stacy could get a client over. Unfortuanately, she's not a miracle worker. Use Dawn to help get kidman over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2003 Dawn can have a use. Like Stacy. In theory, Stacy could get a client over. Unfortuanately, she's not a miracle worker. Use Dawn to help get kidman over. I think that Torrie would be better suited to get Kidman over. Since they ARE a couple in real life, it would work out. Dawn could get anyone else over though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted January 5, 2003 Dawn can have a use. Like Stacy. In theory, Stacy could get a client over. Unfortuanately, she's not a miracle worker. Use Dawn to help get kidman over. I've heard enough of Dawn talk for a lifetime. Sew her mouth shut and stick her with Natty Jones, it fits the gimmick, keeps her on a shit show I barely watch anyway, and she still serves the same purpose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2003 Dawn can have a use. Like Stacy. In theory, Stacy could get a client over. Unfortuanately, she's not a miracle worker. Use Dawn to help get kidman over. I've heard enough of Dawn talk for a lifetime. Sew her mouth shut and stick her with Natty Jones, it fits the gimmick, keeps her on a shit show I barely watch anyway, and she still serves the same purpose. That's assuming that Jones is put onto Raw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted January 5, 2003 Dawn can have a use. Like Stacy. In theory, Stacy could get a client over. Unfortuanately, she's not a miracle worker. Use Dawn to help get kidman over. I think that Torrie would be better suited to get Kidman over. Since they ARE a couple in real life, it would work out. But they have no on air chemistry. (Not saying that Dawn/Billy would) And maybe a heel turn would help Kidman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted January 5, 2003 Dawn can have a use. Like Stacy. In theory, Stacy could get a client over. Unfortuanately, she's not a miracle worker. Use Dawn to help get kidman over. I think that Torrie would be better suited to get Kidman over. Since they ARE a couple in real life, it would work out. Dawn could get anyone else over though. We've seen them in promos together. Horrible. No chemistry. Don't do it. And Torrie should be rolling around in tubs of Jello or Ice Cream on Raw with Stacey. Or making out with Stacey. Or kicking Test in the balls with steel toed boots with Stacey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2003 Dawn can have a use. Like Stacy. In theory, Stacy could get a client over. Unfortuanately, she's not a miracle worker. Use Dawn to help get kidman over. I think that Torrie would be better suited to get Kidman over. Since they ARE a couple in real life, it would work out. But they have no on air chemistry. (Not saying that Dawn/Billy would) And maybe a heel turn would help Kidman. Weird, I thought that this past Smackdown showed a pretty good on-air chemistry between Torrie and Kidman. Probably the only reason it didn't seem like they had one is because they aren't the best of actors. And Heel Kidman? Well, if they built up the Cruiserweight division I could see it working out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted January 5, 2003 Dawn can have a use. Like Stacy. In theory, Stacy could get a client over. Unfortuanately, she's not a miracle worker. Use Dawn to help get kidman over. I've heard enough of Dawn talk for a lifetime. Sew her mouth shut and stick her with Natty Jones, it fits the gimmick, keeps her on a shit show I barely watch anyway, and she still serves the same purpose. That's assuming that Jones is put onto Raw. It's been reported he likely will. Besides, Vince thinks it'll boost ratings on Raw. Vince is a fucktard, but that means he'll keep tossing roidmonkey's onto that sinking ship until it goes under. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2003 Dawn can have a use. Like Stacy. In theory, Stacy could get a client over. Unfortuanately, she's not a miracle worker. Use Dawn to help get kidman over. I've heard enough of Dawn talk for a lifetime. Sew her mouth shut and stick her with Natty Jones, it fits the gimmick, keeps her on a shit show I barely watch anyway, and she still serves the same purpose. That's assuming that Jones is put onto Raw. It's been reported he likely will. Besides, Vince thinks it'll boost ratings on Raw. Vince is a fucktard, but that means he'll keep tossing roidmonkey's onto that sinking ship until it goes under. Yeah, I'll drink to that. *Chug* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted January 5, 2003 Dawn can have a use. Like Stacy. In theory, Stacy could get a client over. Unfortuanately, she's not a miracle worker. Use Dawn to help get kidman over. I think that Torrie would be better suited to get Kidman over. Since they ARE a couple in real life, it would work out. But they have no on air chemistry. (Not saying that Dawn/Billy would) And maybe a heel turn would help Kidman. Weird, I thought that this past Smackdown showed a pretty good on-air chemistry between Torrie and Kidman. Probably the only reason it didn't seem like they had one is because they aren't the best of actors. And Heel Kidman? Well, if they built up the Cruiserweight division I could see it working out. Which they have no interest in doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2003 Eh, one can dream, can't they? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted January 5, 2003 Dawn can have a use. Like Stacy. In theory, Stacy could get a client over. Unfortuanately, she's not a miracle worker. Use Dawn to help get kidman over. I think that Torrie would be better suited to get Kidman over. Since they ARE a couple in real life, it would work out. But they have no on air chemistry. (Not saying that Dawn/Billy would) And maybe a heel turn would help Kidman. Weird, I thought that this past Smackdown showed a pretty good on-air chemistry between Torrie and Kidman. She looked like she was humoring him and just wanted him to go away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2003 Dawn can have a use. Like Stacy. In theory, Stacy could get a client over. Unfortuanately, she's not a miracle worker. Use Dawn to help get kidman over. I think that Torrie would be better suited to get Kidman over. Since they ARE a couple in real life, it would work out. But they have no on air chemistry. (Not saying that Dawn/Billy would) And maybe a heel turn would help Kidman. Weird, I thought that this past Smackdown showed a pretty good on-air chemistry between Torrie and Kidman. She looked like she was humoring him and just wanted him to go away. How do you know that's not how she is in real life? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted January 5, 2003 She can't be sleeping with him for ringrat bragging rights, or his star status, or his salary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2003 She can't be sleeping with him for ringrat bragging rights, or his star status, or his salary. Maybe she's doing it as a favor... You know..."sorry about the whole Viagra on a pole" storyline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted January 5, 2003 She can't be sleeping with him for ringrat bragging rights, or his star status, or his salary. Maybe she's doing it as a favor... You know..."sorry about the whole Viagra on a pole" storyline. She came up with that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2003 She can't be sleeping with him for ringrat bragging rights, or his star status, or his salary. Maybe she's doing it as a favor... You know..."sorry about the whole Viagra on a pole" storyline. She came up with that? Dunno...but she agreed to be a part of it. That's bad enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted January 5, 2003 She can't be sleeping with him for ringrat bragging rights, or his star status, or his salary. Maybe she's doing it as a favor... You know..."sorry about the whole Viagra on a pole" storyline. She came up with that? Dunno...but she agreed to be a part of it. That's bad enough. Who the hell is sleeping with Torrie to appologize for this current stuff? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMWaters 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2003 She can't be sleeping with him for ringrat bragging rights, or his star status, or his salary. Maybe she's doing it as a favor... You know..."sorry about the whole Viagra on a pole" storyline. She came up with that? Dunno...but she agreed to be a part of it. That's bad enough. Who the hell is sleeping with Torrie to appologize for this current stuff? Dawn Marie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted January 5, 2003 Ah. It all falls into place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hogan Made Wrestling Report post Posted January 5, 2003 Anyone cutting the Big Show or Albert is foolish. WWE is much better off letting their huge contracts leech money slowly over their length rather than have to pay out one huge lump sum to fire them. Depush them a lot sure, but don't fire them and cost yourself a huge sum of cash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrnoitaull 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2003 Hey didnt Bill Demott get fired once before. Him and Chavo., when they were with the invasion angle? there really isnt a place for Demott. He's just squashing people and gettin nowhere . But I disagree with Kidamn leaving.Justin Cred an Jeff should return to rehab and work out a gimmick.. maybe even formin a tag ...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bravesfan Report post Posted January 5, 2003 Hey didnt Bill Demott get fired once before. Him and Chavo., when they were with the invasion angle? Only in storyline terms. My cuts would be: Bill Demott Justin Credible Dawn Marie: just as TS's sig says, she defines a "fluffer", and we already have our "hands full" with Stacy. Have Stacy accompany 10-15 guys to the ring in a night, that'll do just fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted January 5, 2003 She can't be sleeping with him for ringrat bragging rights, or his star status, or his salary. Maybe she's doing it as a favor... You know..."sorry about the whole Viagra on a pole" storyline. As far as I know, she was dating him before, during, and after that and since, so doesn't really apply. Dawn Marie: just as TS's sig says, she defines a "fluffer", and we already have our "hands full" with Stacy. Have Stacy accompany 10-15 guys to the ring in a night, that'll do just fine. Heheh...good idea. It's sorta worked for TEST. TEST!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted January 5, 2003 Between Mark Henry, Albert and the Big Show I could free up some money. HMW, I disagree. They're not making any mony off either guys so there's no long-term investment there. Cut the losses now since buyouts are only a percentage. Jeff Hardy's beyond help right now and unfortunately, should be dumped. Credible should go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bravesfan Report post Posted January 5, 2003 Between Mark Henry, Albert and the Big Show I could free up some money. How? Each one of their contracts are long-term contracts, 2 of those being the longest in the company. I believe Henrys' ranges from 1997-2007, while Big Show goes from 1999-2009. To buy-out their contracts now is absolutely ludicrous. Humiliating them into wrestler walkouts won't work either. WWE tried to humiliate Henry in EVERY WAY POSSIBLE, and he's never budged. He's either got the biggest heart in the WWE, or he's a greedy scumbag who doesn't care about how he's treated. Pick and choose. Though they should try this strategy with Wight. They're not making any mony off either guys so there's no long-term investment there. Cut the losses now since buyouts are only a percentage. How much though? I'm sure Vince has thought about buying out both their contracts if this is so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted January 5, 2003 Don't even get me started on Vince's boneheadedness to sign Henry and Show to long-term contracts. Personally, I'd also fire Orton if he's still shitty when he comes back. I don't care how many smarks dig his heel character, he was utterly horrible when he was wrestling. How does one screw up two finishes in a row? And why did he REPEAT THE SPOT on the second one? How does one injure their shoulder fucking up that shitty Overdrive move? At the very least, it would be back to the farm leagues for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted January 5, 2003 Vince has tried to make both of their contracts pay-off through continued pushes and stints of getting them in ring shape. Just pay off the eighty percent of what's left or whatever percentage it costs to buy them out, and write off the losses as long-term investments (since both guys would have no compete clauses, a good accountant could justify it). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted January 5, 2003 Vince has tried to make both of their contracts pay-off through continued pushes and stints of getting them in ring shape. Just pay off the eighty percent of what's left or whatever percentage it costs to buy them out, and write off the losses as long-term investments (since both guys would have no compete clauses, a good accountant could justify it). Hardly. Vince has no real competition now. Maybe NWA-TNA, but I doubt they'd take Henry. Maybe, MAYBE Big Show. I wouldn't cut Show right now because they seem to actually be using him rather well. However, that won't last, and I'd cut him sooner rather than later. However, it doesn't seem like it would be a big coup if a fledgling company signed either of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gimmick Poster.com Report post Posted January 5, 2003 If you all are going to use WWE history and Ross Reports as references, let's use it the *right* way. Firstly, Big show is pretty much in the best ring shape of his life. It ain't getting any better. To think so make you an idiot. And constantly whining about it, it makes you a whiner. Also, marks still respond to this guy and always have. Aside from a few house show reports, Show has always drawn a reaction whether face or heel so I don't want to hear, "He ain't over." as an excuse becuase I can throw a few examples out there of my own. Also, of note, many of these so called marks I talked to think Big Show is just really big, not fat. They say Rikishi is fat, Big Show is just HUGE. Of course you all shall no sell that anyway, but it was worth pointing out. Secondly, Henry had lost TONS of weight in OVW and his wrestling had improved threefold. Of course, Vince McMahon saw a money making and publicity oppurtunity in having Henry enter the Strong Man contest. Henry was ordered to put on weight so he could win, which he did, but that was a whole year down the tube. And the only thing that came out of that Strongman win besides bragging rights was a shitty angle involving Test and Farooq. As far as your numerous pushes go, Big Show, maybe, a big maybe. Henry's biggest push was win he came into the WWF and the push last year, which was just a "Bill DeMott Token Push." Show was pushed continuously for a year after he arrived in the WWF, then after that he was pushed once more in 2000 before being carted off to OVW. After that was the NWO push and now his current push as lackey for Kurt Angle. So, let's see 2 pushes for Henry and four for Show. If you call that numerous then I guess 2 to 4 dollars is filthy rich for you guys. As for the attempts to get them into ring shape, one for Henry and two for Show. Not alot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites