Guest IDrinkRatsMilk Report post Posted January 17, 2003 I did a SSP press off my dresser once, and I'll say it is pretty hard. The flipping isn't so hard, but you have to be careful not to hit anything (especially your neck) as your body flails through the air. Which is amplified doing it off the ground. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dace59 Report post Posted January 17, 2003 Yes, but that wasn't on the ground. You dont have the turnbuckles or ropes to hit. Right, got that? That's one reason why it's easier than a regular SSP off the ropes. And all you have to do for a standing one is a simple backflip. There is nothing behind or infront of you. You only have to throw yourself forwards a few feet, and the simple standing backflip becomes a standing SSP. If there was that big a danger with a standing backflip, people wouldn't be doing them all the time without a though, and a standing moonsault would be a lot rarer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest IDrinkRatsMilk Report post Posted January 17, 2003 I was talking more about hitting your head on the ground. A standing backflip is easier because you're trying to land on your feet, and if you throw yourself back with too much force it probably won't cripple you. For a SSP, you have to calculate how much velocity to throw yourself with, and if you screw up, your head and neck are right there where you're supposed to be landing. But you're the move guy, I'll take your word for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dace59 Report post Posted January 17, 2003 An SSP has LESS, I say again LESS roation than a backflip to your feet. A backflip to your feet is a full 360. But a Standing SSP, you land on your stomach, which is 270. Which, as I said, is LESS, that a full standing backflip. So, that would mean you're more likely to under rotate on a full backflip than a standing SSP. Yet another reason, why it is not that hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest IDrinkRatsMilk Report post Posted January 17, 2003 Ok, yes, I agree that a SSP is easier to do than a full backflip, but my point is it's more dangerous to screw up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dace59 Report post Posted January 17, 2003 How is it? If you screw up and land on your head from either one, it'll be just as bad. Both moves have the same point where you are veritcal upside down in the air, and can drop head or neck first straight to the floor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest IDrinkRatsMilk Report post Posted January 17, 2003 True, but with a SSP, your head is much closer to your stomach than your feet. Meaning you wouldn't have to miscalculate by very much to land on it. To do a backflip, you're not trying to land anywhere near your head, so you would have to miscalculate by a lot to do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dace59 Report post Posted January 17, 2003 Ahhh. I get you're point. Yes, you'd put more force into a full standing backflip. So if you did to little, you're far more likely to end up on your front or kness. But with the standing SSP, too little force will have you head first to the floor. That is true. And it is more dangerous in that way then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chunk 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2003 Back to a point at the begining of this topic. I heard that a tough enough guy was stiffed by Bob Holly, not that Bob Holly was stiffed. Is that true. I read that Bob put is boot through the poor kids face. ChUnK! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Basswitch Report post Posted January 18, 2003 I was really impressed with John's SSP. Sure.. Red can do it, Brian XL can, So can AJ and a host of others. But after 3 months of training (WWE Tough Enough Style Training at taht), this kid can do one. That's hella impressive, plus I can't do one. I hope John and Matt win. I hope Jonah gets a contract too somwhere down the line. If that does not happen I hope Matt and Jonah win, and then Matt wrestles in the indies and gets better and better until he is signed by WWE or TNA (It would give um publicity.... the kid from a WWE Tough Enough camp in TNA). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kingpk Report post Posted January 18, 2003 Back to a point at the begining of this topic. I heard that a tough enough guy was stiffed by Bob Holly, not that Bob Holly was stiffed. Is that true. I read that Bob put is boot through the poor kids face. ChUnK! Check out my TE III recap to find out all about it. OMG!~!@ CHEAP PLUG~!~!~!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted January 18, 2003 OMG shootign starr press is so EZ!!! Im not impressed by Jon at all bcuz I can do it 2! ANd I CAN name Indy wrestlerz who hav don it to! And I can do it so easy!!!1 Whoaaaaa... Did Gimmick Poster .com return? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chunk 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2003 Back to a point at the begining of this topic. I heard that a tough enough guy was stiffed by Bob Holly, not that Bob Holly was stiffed. Is that true. I read that Bob put is boot through the poor kids face. ChUnK! Check out my TE III recap to find out all about it. OMG!~!@ CHEAP PLUG~!~!~!! Now that was cheap. You could have just told me. Ill check out your recap none the less though Thanks, ChUnK! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Mighty Damaramu Report post Posted January 18, 2003 Well I already knew John was athletically gifted. Doesn't he have like a black belt or something? I mean remember that Spinaroonie he did trying out last season when he's seemed to not even know what it was? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuna_Firerose 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2003 That was him??? Whoah... That was a funny moment. His clueless "what's a spinaroonie?" was hilarious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites