Who SHOULD win the Royal Rumble?

[Guest GameCop]

Personally, I think Brock doesn't need the win, here. Jericho has been floundering in recent months, and the only way to salvage his character is by having him emerge victorious at the end. I don't think Michaels should win it either; he's already won two times in the past. He should, however, be in the final two, when Jericho exhibits immense amounts of tomfoolery, en route to winning.

 

An RVD, Booker T, or Edge win would be great, too. In all three cases, each wrestler could be catapulted to main-event status with a Royal Rumble victory.

 

As I said above, Brock is already over, and to make his journey to WrestleMania a little more intriguing, he should lose here, only to get a title shot a few weeks prior to WM XIX.

 

What do you guys think?

[Guest Rob Edwards]

If we're going with Brock in the main event at WM then I go with the Brock eliminating everyone theory because it would set up Brock as a monster and it'd be interesting to watch Kurt's heel tatics to try and beat him

[EL DANDY~! 0]

It SHOULD be RVD, because everybody knows that it's gonna be Brock and Angle at WM, because there is nothing else that would draw. It's GONNA be Brock. It SHOULD be RVD, since he's gotten so close before, and he could have a great chance to actually win it.

[Guest GameCop]

If Brock eliminated all 29 guys, I will never order another WWE PPV again. I hate Brock Lesnar...hated him when he first debuted, and I still hate him now.

 

Remember -- the fans never "chose" Brock Lesnar. They did, however, choose Austin, Rock, Goldberg, Jericho, Angle, Booker T, and RVD. Do you know another guy the fans never chose? HHH. WWE had to shove him down everyone's throats for two years until people started accepting him. Brock Lesnar is similar to HHH; the fans were apathetic towards him for the first six months. However, the WWE pushed him constantly down everyone's throats until fans and some of you guys started accepting him.

 

I will never let the WWE manipulate me into thinking that Brock Lesnar is a main event attraction.

[Guest Hogan Made Wrestling]

It should either be Brock (to put the hype on Brock vs. Angle right away) or Jericho (to further the HBK vs. Jericho feud).

[Guest El Satanico]

Like him or not that doesn't matter...

 

Brock SHOULD win the Royal Rumble.

 

Brock vs. Team Angle is the best major storyline WWE has going. Thus far Team Angle has had the upper hand so they need to have Brock win the rumble to turn the table on Team Angle leading into Wrestlemania.

 

Winning Rumble would make the Mania title win by Brock more special. They do the "screwed wrestler wins his shot back at the PPV before Mania" way too often and they need something different.

[Guest El Satanico]

the fans never "chose" Brock Lesnar. They did, however, choose Austin, Rock, Goldberg, Jericho, Angle, Booker T, and RVD.

According to your reasoning the fans also never "chose" Goldberg or even Rock.

 

Goldberg: Recieves a monster push and doesn't truly get over for at least two months

 

Brock: He's still new and the fans could care less about him when WWE decides to give him a monster push. It took around four months before he finally got over.

 

Rock: His first big push resulted in fans totally rejecting him and giving him Xpac heat. He never truly got over until he joined The Nation.

 

 

Based off YOUR reasoning I don't see how these three men differ. Your reasoning would clearly state that all three weren't "chosen" by the fans.

[Guest Dangerous A]

To add to El Satanico, I guess we should only push babyfaces that get crowd reactions and never push heels? HHH was pushed as a heel. Of course fans aren't going to accept him, THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO! They are supposed to want to pay money to see someone beat his ass. Somewhere along the way, HHH lost what that role meant and was not good the first time pushed, but in less than 6 months he was over.

 

Also, when did the fans choose Angle? If you meant they chose him to boo, chant "You Suck", and "what" his every pause, I guess they chose correctly. Other than that, last I checked Angle's only face push was forced down our throats (End of Invasion PPV through the end of No Mercy PPV) and was aborted by the office aka Vince.

[Guest Choken One]

I won't get into the Who was Chosen by the Fans arguement here.

 

WWE has narrowed the Rumble down to 3 legit and realistic possiblities HBK, Jericho and Brock.

 

Let's look at our Arguements here...

 

Arguement A

 

Brock needs to Win the rumble because Team Angle/ Brock is the top storyline going today and Brock shouldn't get a title shot unless he wins the rumble.

 

Counterarguement A

WWE Fans already know Angle/Brock is booked for WMxix and we don't need Brock to win the rumble.

 

Arguement B

Jericho has been so devalued that he NEEDS to win the rumble and make some good out of him.

 

Counterarguement B

Having Jericho win and just give away the title shot stip is mindless and only hurts him more

 

arguement c

RVD, Booker or Kane need to win to give Unpredictable Upset feel for the Rumble

 

Counterarguement C

Having RVD, Booker or Kane win is a cheap way of starting an angle for WM.

 

Arguement D

HBK is the #1 draw today and needs to Headline another WM.

 

Counterarguement D

This person is stupid and should be shot.

 

Who Should Win? Jericho

Who Will Win? Brock Lesnar

[Guest art_vandelay]

I will never let the WWE manipulate me into thinking that Brock Lesnar is a main event attraction.

 

So you refuse to like a wrestler that is pushed properly? Dude, take a step back and realize that this is professional wrestling. It's a TV show. If you think you're making some sort of poetic statement by boycotting wrestlers that you're being "forced to like," think again. People laugh at guys like you who take all this shit so seriously.

[Guest creativename]

I will never let the WWE manipulate me into thinking that Brock Lesnar is a main event attraction.

 

So you refuse to like a wrestler that is pushed properly? Dude, take a step back and realize that this is professional wrestling. It's a TV show. If you think you're making some sort of poetic statement by boycotting wrestlers that you're being "forced to like," think again. People laugh at guys like you who take all this shit so seriously.

Seems to me like you're being a little harsh on him; I can see his point, though I myself have been a Brock mark almost since his debut. It's easier to accept a big push when it was the guy's oversness that forced the push--seems more just.

 

And fans can choose a heel, though I would guess that happens less often. Flair may be an example of this...or maybe not. The Four Horsemen as a group, as well as the nWo, certainly were. (yes, the nWo were pushed down the fans' throats, but no one can get as over as they were in their first year on a push alone)

 

Brock should win though. Jericho winning would just be a swerve, typical of the WWE mindset--I wouldn't be as happy with a Jericho win as I should be, because it wouldn't be the right thing to do, just like I thought putting Angle over Show wasn't the right thing to do (though that is, admittedly, turning out quite well). Brock winning just makes the most sense. My only concern is that he makes Jericho look like a nothing punk, since I expect Jericho to be the last guy eliminated.

[Guest edotherocket]

In the end, I think the easiest way to tell who's going to win is by which set of commentators does the Rumble. If Jericho or Michaels is going to win, they'll have JR and the King because they need to do the screamy 'MY GOD, SHAWN MICHAELS IS BYGAWD GOING TO WRESTLEMANIA' end of PPV rant and likewise for Brock if Tazz and Cole are commentating. Having one brand's commentators on when the other brand wins would be stupid because the win would be met by indifference.

 

I don't think they'll divide the commentators either. JR and Cole were blandness personified at Invasion and I think they know it.

[Guest godthedog]

i'd choose eddie or jericho, in that order.

[Guest Brian]

Brock should win. That's the only situation that makes sense in his storyline. Even though Brock/Angle is somewhat predictable, he's still has a lot to overcome like WM15 with Austin.

[Guest Creepy Crawl]

I will have to go with Jericho or Booker . Book needs something to get him going agin to be considered a major player in the WWE again , after hanging in the tag division for awhile and then having to job two weeks later just kinda killed what little credibilty he actually had . As far as Jericho I just think it might be another surprise like we have seen before , he hasnt been too much into the main event picture lately either I think this would help him out a whole hell of a lot . Now as far as who I WANT to win is Stone Cold and I know thats not gonna happen so I wont dwell on that

[Guest wwF1587]

ANYONE BUT HBK! If the WWE decides to have HBK win it tonight and then face Jericho at No Way Out only to beat him, then out the hype on HHH/HBK AGAIN consider me extremely pissed. But really I think JERICHO should win... keeep the title shot and get it at WM... then HHH should loose the title to Booker T, thus we finally get the match on ppv between Booker T/Jericho that we havent gotten yet. But unfortually I think Brock is gonna win cause he needs to rebuild after loosing all his build up to the Big Show at Survivor Series.....damnit Vince... and I wouldnt be suprised if its HHH/HBK again but retirement match...

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

Remember -- the fans never "chose" Brock Lesnar. They did, however, choose Austin, Rock, Goldberg, Jericho, Angle, Booker T, and RVD.

They chose Goldberg? Even though WCW had to pipe in fake chants to get him over? Even though so much of his support base eroded once the streak was broken (as opposed to Brock, who got over with marks and some smarks around the same time the streak ended. A better combo if you ask me.)

 

Anyway...

 

Who SHOULD win - Chris Jericho

 

Who probably will win - Shawn Michaels

[Guest The Hamburglar]

Who should win - Brock.

Who will win - Brock.

 

They need to build up Brock-Angle as a clash between the two highest achievers in WWE history, as the guys who just won everything quicker than anyone else. Brock winning the Rumble gets him to Mania main event with Angle and builds upon their feud. I see absolutely no reason why anyone from Raw should get near the Wrestlemania main event.

[bobobrazil1984 0]

It's a tough one to call. On one hand its kind of lame to have Brock lose the Rumble and still get in (remember when it happened to Austin in 99), but if a RAW guy wins then they can do something else to get the Smackdown main event

 

(how about an 16 man tournament that starts on the first post-Rumble Smackdown and culminates at No Way Out, and have Brock win that one)

 

Then Jericho should win, but who would he fight at Mania?? Steiner?

The one that makes more booking sense is either RVD or Booker T winning the Rumbel in an upset and going on beat HHH for the RAW title clean at Mania (yeah fat chance), pushing one of them up into permanant main event status. Booker hasn't jobbed out to HHH that much so he's the more obvious one.

 

knowing the WWE, they'll have Big Show win the match with Brock and win th Rumble.

[Guest Anglesault]

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Brock vs. Team Angle is the best major storyline WWE has going. Thus far Team Angle has had the upper hand

WHAT?

 

I love Team Angle, but they are nothing but Brock's bitches. You saw what happened when Brock got his hands on Angle. And he kills them all after the show.

[Guest teke184]

If they find another way for Brock to get a title shot that is NOT cliched, as in "They didn't do it during Austin-McMahon", I think that Booker T should win the Rumble. It's the only way I can think of to justify taking the tag titles off of him and Goldust since they were still VERY over.

[Guest El Satanico]

What would be the point in having Jericho RVD or Booker T win the rumble? Do we really want HHH maineventing Mania?

 

RVD or Booker T winning would make no sense with the current storylines and would totally kill the winner gets title shot at Mania stip. Winning KOTR is used to start someone's big push NOT Royal Rumble. Jericho winning to further his pissing contest with HBK would be a waste.

 

Brock winning takes the Team Angle vs. Brock storyline in a slightly different direction leading into WrestleMania. So that's why Brock winning is the most satisfying possible outcome.

 

Hell I'd love Jericho to win, but in this case him winning would be a big mistake. Jericho would be able to save face in defeat if somehow him and HBK were both thrown out at the same time.

[Guest teke184]

What would be the point in having Jericho RVD or Booker T win the rumble? Do we really want HHH maineventing Mania?

 

RVD or Booker T winning would make no sense with the current storylines and would totally kill the winner gets title shot at Mania stip. Winning KOTR is used to start someone's big push NOT Royal Rumble. Jericho winning to further his pissing contest with HBK would be a waste.

 

Brock winning takes the Team Angle vs. Brock storyline in a slightly different direction leading into WrestleMania. So that's why Brock winning is the most satisfying possible outcome.

 

Hell I'd love Jericho to win, but in this case him winning would be a big mistake. Jericho would be able to save face in defeat if somehow him and HBK were both thrown out at the same time.

I'd prefer Jericho blowing off his match with HBK on RAW, beating Steiner at No Way Out, and losing to Booker at Wrestlemania to having Trips anywhere NEAR the main event of Mania. This would require, of course, that Steiner beat Crips for the belt and not lose it in a re-match.

 

As much as I like having storylines that have gone on for a while, I do NOT want to see Trips vs. Steiner or Trips vs. HBK in the main event of Mania.

 

I could stand to see Trips vs. RVD or Trips vs. Booker under the condition that Trips lose CLEANLY, but we know that isn't happening since HBK went over at Survivor Series instead of either of them.

[Guest El Satanico]

Yeah we'd all love to see a Jericho vs. Booker T Raw main event, but you damn well know that'll never happen with HHH around.

 

If Jericho win Rumble he'll then proceed to lose his shot to HBK at NWO. HBK vs. HHH will have yet another blow off match at Mania. And Jericho will then take part in HHH/Jericho vs. HBK/Steiner tag matches leading into WM.

[Guest Brian]

The way it looks, the RAW main for WrestleMania is going to be Triple H vs. Austin. I'd prefer they not push Booker yet beause he's in no position right now to be slid into that spot. You have to build him up for that at least a little bit, especially since he hasn't really been a main eventer. Let him do the Golddust break-up, get some momentum and then move up.

[Guest GameCop]

Here's what I mean about the fans "choosing" someone -- the wrestler receives heat upon his debut. The Rock was booed mercilessly upon his debut ("Die Rocky Die") When Rock turned heel, he continued to garner an overwhelming reaction. And as far as I'm concerned, Goldberg was over in his first match against Hugh Morrus.

[Guest Coffey]

Edit: Wrong thread

[Guest Rob Edwards]

Goldberg would have seemed over on his first appearance because of the piped heat though

[Guest GameCop]

Piped heat or not (which doesn't make sense in a guy's first appearance), I remember the fans going crazy upon seeing Goldberg dismantle Hugh Morrus (Bill DeMott).

[Guest Rob Edwards]

It makes sense on someones first appearence if they intend to push the guy, plus Goldberg was a face, how many heel destroyers have had an initial huge reaction bar Undertaker?