Edge, A-Train in the doghouse

[Guest bob_barron]

I don't see a problem with bringing up The Game.

 

Edge got punished for getting nothing out of A-Train while HHH has bad matches with Taker, Kane and Steiner and yet they look the other way

[Guest Downhome]

I don't see a problem with bringing up The Game.

 

Edge got punished for getting nothing out of A-Train while HHH has bad matches with Taker, Kane and Steiner and yet they look the other way

But the topic and conversation isn't about those situations, it's about A & E. Let's make yet another HHH thread to talk about all of those instances. We all understand HHH has power and the such and does things we do not like, we know it. There's no need to talk about it when speaking of a midcard feud with Edge and Albert.

[Guest The Mighty Damaramu]

There is a need to talk about this because it shows how much this situation sucks. Edge who isn't the world's greatest worker in the first place can't pull a good match out of A-Train and he's in trouble. HHH has terrible matches all year and nothing happens to him. Now that shows just how much this sucks for Edge and how much of a double standard this is.

[Guest bob_barron]

I don't see a problem with bringing up The Game.

 

Edge got punished for getting nothing out of A-Train while HHH has bad matches with Taker, Kane and Steiner and yet they look the other way

But the topic and conversation isn't about those situations, it's about A & E. Let's make yet another HHH thread to talk about all of those instances. We all understand HHH has power and the such and does things we do not like, we know it. There's no need to talk about it when speaking of a midcard feud with Edge and Albert.

But that's one of the many reasons I find this whole thing to be complete bullshit and it's a why a lot of people also here also find it to be bullshit.

 

I really hope Vince realises how wrong he is and Edge's push continues

[Guest HartFan86]

And this Edge doghouse bullshit...this is AFTER the fact he's had at least 5 MOTYC's in 2002 while HHH has had about 1 (vs. HBK at Summerslam). As stated, Edge has a shitty feud/match with Albert and gets in the doghouse, and because HHH is backstage Satan, he contiunes to be in the main events and now reading how he DOESN"T want to feud with anyone who is athletic....it contiunes to get worse.

 

It's not the fact all the SmartMarks hate HHH, it's the fact that this makes a very strong argument with HHH in it.

[Guest Downhome]

Edge who isn't the world's greatest worker in the first place can't pull a good match out of A-Train and he's in trouble.

That right there says a lot, and is the reason I feel he was put in there with Albert, to see if he COULD work a decent match with him. They more than likely feel that in order to main event, one should be able to work with these big guys, because they are going to main event anyhow.

 

HHH has terrible matches all year and nothing happens to him. Now that shows just how much this sucks for Edge and how much of a double standard this is.

 

Are you not aware that double standards take place in wrestling? Don't be shocked, but it's true, very true. It's been that way for years and years and will never change. Not meaning it's ok, but it's the way things are, and it's not going to change anything soon.

 

Bringing HHH into yet another thread brings nothing to the topic at hand, it's yet another excuse to bash him, which proves nothing about Edge and Albert. Yeah, there's a double standard, but that doesn't change anything, that's just how things are.

 

It just sickens me to see so many threads turn into yet another HHH bashing, when he doesn't even have anything to have with the topic. Go start yet another HHH topic putting him down for this if you will, but again, he has nothing to do with Edge and Albert.

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

*Looks at Downhome's posts*

 

*Looks at Downhome's sig, primarily his sig picture*

 

*Collapses due to the overwhelming levels of irony*

[Guest Downhome]

...he contiunes to be in the main events and now reading how he DOESN"T want to feud with anyone who is athletic....it contiunes to get worse.

Not that I don't believe it, but I would still like to see an actual quote about that. Do any of you have one yet? I can't find it on the PWT, so if you have it, let me have it too, thanks.

 

Another reason this shouldn't involve HHH, is because we all know why he is where he is, the situations are worlds a part.

[Guest HartFan86]

It just sickens me to see so many threads turn into yet another HHH bashing, when he doesn't even have anything to have with the topic. .

Just like Mulatto Heat said....your sig is in every thread you post in, so techincally this statement is true about you.

 

Just like the HHH double standard....not trying to bash or anything, it's just the truth.

[Guest Downhome]

*Looks at Downhome's posts*

 

*Looks at Downhome's sig, primarily his sig picture*

 

*Collapses due to the overwhelming levels of irony*

The reason would be...what?

 

I despise HHH right now, and have for years. That doesn't mean I want to bring him into topics that have nothing at all to do with him. That's why I take my shots at him in my sig (currently), so everyone knows how I feel, while not having to stink up other topics talking about him.

[Guest The Mighty Damaramu]

Ok so Edge was put in there to see if he could be main event caliber by putting a good match on with a bad worker.....yet HHH is in the main event and he can't have a good match with anyone save his friends and you don't see how he fits!?

Look we are bringing up HHH to prove what bullshit this whole thing is. You say Edge was tested and he failed it. So you say he doesn't belong in the main event at all! Yet the biggest main event player in the company is also one of the worst wrestlers ever! This whole thing is complete bullshit. And it's not just because it's HHH. If Benoit was in the top of the card and putting on stinkers like HHH then we'd be complaining about him to. As we would about anybody in that position who puts on those bad of matches. But Edge is suddenly "tested" and fails the test so let's all burn him at the stake b/c he doesn't deserve his push! But let's not complain that HHH has done 10x worse and is on a constant push!

[Guest Downhome]

It just sickens me to see so many threads turn into yet another HHH bashing, when he doesn't even have anything to have with the topic. .

Just like Mulatto Heat said....your sig is in every thread you post in, so techincally this statement is true about you.

 

Just like the HHH double standard....not trying to bash or anything, it's just the truth.

Read my reply above this one.

 

I have him there so I don't HAVE to bring him up in every topic, to stink up yet another topic with talk of him. When ever my sig actually changes the course of a topic, then it will be gone. Sigs don't change topics (unless people wish to try to put someone down with this excuse), ugh.

[Guest Downhome]

Ok so Edge was put in there to see if he could be main event caliber by putting a good match on with a bad worker.....yet HHH is in the main event and he can't have a good match with anyone save his friends and you don't see how he fits!?

Look we are bringing up HHH to prove what bullshit this whole thing is. You say Edge was tested and he failed it. So you say he doesn't belong in the main event at all! Yet the biggest main event player in the company is also one of the worst wrestlers ever! This whole thing is complete bullshit. And it's not just because it's HHH. If Benoit was in the top of the card and putting on stinkers like HHH then we'd be complaining about him to. As we would about anybody in that position who puts on those bad of matches. But Edge is suddenly "tested" and fails the test so let's all burn him at the stake b/c he doesn't deserve his push! But let's not complain that HHH has done 10x worse and is on a constant push!

Yes, all of that is true, it's true! But we complain about HHH everywhere, EVERYWHERE. This topic isn't even about him! Yes there is a double standerd, but it will not change anything other than the fact that it IS a double standered.

 

It's a total different situation.

 

Perhaps if Edge was dating Vince's daughter also, then we could compare them, but he's not.

[Guest bob_barron]

Edge got a good match out of Test who also isn't considered the world's greatest worker so I don't see why just cause he doesn't gel with A-Train he should be in the doghouse.

 

Hell- Austin and Jericho don't work well together either.

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

That's why I take my shots at him in my sig (currently), so everyone knows how I feel, while not having to stink up other topics talking about him.

Technically then, you're "stinking up" EVERY topic you post in, and you post very often in the WWE forum.

 

I'm not really going to get into this "Edge vs. A-Train - who made more of an effort" discussion as the news item contradicts itself and I'm not going to play translator, but the comparison Barron etc. is making is quite valid.

[Guest Downhome]

That's why I take my shots at him in my sig (currently), so everyone knows how I feel, while not having to stink up other topics talking about him.

Technically then, you're "stinking up" EVERY topic you post in, and you post very often in the WWE forum.

 

I'm not really going to get into this "Edge vs. A-Train - who made more of an effort" discussion as the news item contradicts itself and I'm not going to play translator, but the comparison Barron etc. is making is quite valid.

Besides this time by you, when has my sig ever actually changed the dirrection of a topic? You are really reaching for stuff just because you don't agree with what I'm saying.

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

Where did I say that I don't agree with you?

 

I see Barron bringing up a decent comparison to counter your point, and you no-selling it and complaining about HHHate even though your sig prominently displays it.

[Guest HartFan86]

I'd say Bob made a pretty accurate analogy. Jericho/Austin really never hit it off (could put up the argument of KOTR 2001, but Jericho was just horrible that night and it the goods mostly came from Austin vs. Benoit) and Jericho and Austin are 2 of the best workers that's ever wrestled.

 

Same with Angle and HHH...even when HHH was in 2000 mode, the chemistry between the 2 never was there.

[Guest Downhome]

Where did I say that I don't agree with you?

 

I see Barron bringing up a decent comparison to counter your point, and you no-selling it and complaining about HHHate even though your sig prominently displays it.

It's a sig, it has nothing to do with what I post! It's not like I bring up my sig every time I post something, other than it being there, I HATE HHH right now, but I don't change the dirrection of topics just to let people know it.

 

I didn't no-sell anything, I just said it has nothing to do with Edge/Albert, which it doesn't. They are two different entirely different situations.

 

I ask again, show me some topics where my sig, other than this one, has changed a dirrection of a thread. Or better yet, don't, let's get back on topic.

[Guest Anglesault]

Brock hasn't had a decent match aside from Rock??

 

I disagree- he had a really good match with Bubba Ray Dudley back when he first came in

It was okay. You all make it out to be amazing. **1/4.

 

Test

 

What? That was an EXTREMELY boring, sloppy, heatless as all shit match that basically killed the crowd.

 

RVD,

 

What? KOTR was terrible, and Venegance wasn't anything to write hom about either.

 

Taker,

 

WHAT? The first one was terrible. Hell in a Cell was like ***ish, but everyone adds 1/2* for the blood 1/2* for Brock being in it, who somwhow raises the quality of every match or something.

 

and even the Big Show

 

WHAT?

 

Brock has had a good match with Rock. That about covers it.

[Guest HartFan86]

Brock/Big Show have both been good, quick matches. Hell, the Rumble match was very watchable live. Keep it simple and to the point with Big Show...and Brock bumped very well for him.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

Brock hasn't had a decent match aside from Rock??

 

I disagree- he had a really good match with Bubba Ray Dudley back when he first came in and he's had matches I'd consider decent with Test, RVD, Taker, and even the Big Show

[Guest Anglesault]

Quick is the key word. It was goood because it wasn't given a chance to develop. Unless, of course, we are suing the Big Show Scale of good matches, which doesn't count. If it drags on, it will suck. I'm sorry, but I can't give a 5 minute and 6 minute match respectively, anything over **.

[Guest bob_barron]

I agree the KOTR match sucked but the RAW and Vengeance matches were both pretty good with their styles meshing nicely.

 

I agree the Test match was nothing to scream about but I thought it was better then I expect and it was a decent power match.

 

I also liked both matches he had with Taker- they were fun matches where you didnt know who was going to win. The first one isn't as good as the second one but I thought it was alright.

 

I'm not saying Brock v. Bubba was amazing but considering who was in there they did a great job.

 

I haven't seen the MSG match on tape yet but they were booked to be short quick matches so there would be little resting and the matches came off well as a result.

 

Brock also had a good match with Eddy btw

[Guest bob_barron]

Brock hasn't had a decent match aside from Rock??

 

I disagree- he had a really good match with Bubba Ray Dudley back when he first came in and he's had matches I'd consider decent with Test, RVD, Taker, and even the Big Show

I didn't say good- I said DECENT.

[Guest HartFan86]

Brock hasn't had a decent match aside from Rock??

 

I disagree- he had a really good match with Bubba Ray Dudley back when he first came in and he's had matches I'd consider decent with Test, RVD, Taker, and even the Big Show

Funniest post of the week goes to you, sir.

[Guest Anglesault]

but I thought it was better then I expect

 

I thought it was alright.

 

but considering who was in there

 

So basically, because these matches didn't blow, they go into the "good match" bin. If that doesn't say something about Lesnar's less than stellar career, I don't know what does.

 

they were fun matches

 

The Stevie/Tommy Cane match was a "fun" match. It wasn't good.

 

basically, you are saying that such and such a match didn't suck like it should have, so it MUST have been good. Nuh-uh

[Guest Anglesault]

Brock also had a good match with Eddy btw

I didn't see it, (I'll get around to it)but it didn't even hit Scott Keith's very liberal *** rating, correct? Does't Eddy have to like, die in the ring to get such a low match rating from Scott?

[Guest bob_barron]

I said the matches were decent- I didn't say they were good.

 

I thought HIAC and the two matches with RVD were good.

 

I'd lump the rest into decent. The Eddy match was too short to go into the good category but it was good while it lasted.

[Guest AndrewTS]

***ish? Taker-Brock HIAC?!~

 

Blood and psychology saved it. The offense in the match was positively shitty, and I didn't see anything from Brock that basically anyone else could have done a billion times better. Brock still sucks in the ring and on the mic, but he's over for some inexplicable reason.