Guest Coffey Posted February 4, 2003 Report Posted February 4, 2003 Here's the principle: I list two groups of four WWE wrestlers. You select which group you would rather have on your roster if you were running a wrestling promotion. Factor in work-rate, drawing power, name value, etc. You might be amazed at the number of people who select group A over group B due to name value alone or vice versa... We'll see how it goes on the Smark Marks board though: Group A: Chris Benoit Eddie Guerrero The Hurricane Lance Storm Group B: Kurt Angle The Rock Steve Austin Hulk Hogan Remember, it's not a favorite contest, it's who you think would profit you more in the long run. Make the most money, etc. In this case, it's workrate vs. drawing power.. A little Angle thrown in to spice it up as well:
cawthon777 Posted February 4, 2003 Report Posted February 4, 2003 Gotta go with B. You need people to watch before you can push the lesser known talent.
Guest Youth N Asia Posted February 4, 2003 Report Posted February 4, 2003 Well, everyone on B looks to be heading out of wrestling soon...but if payroll isn't a factor then you have to go with B. But if it was a factor I'd pick A.
Guest Brian Posted February 4, 2003 Report Posted February 4, 2003 I think I'd pick B just for Angle and Austin. Hogan should have left long ago and Rock is all but a factor. Austin still has a year left and a ton of credibility to put multiple stars over and Angle is Angle. Jericho's so abused he's not worth it, Benoit can't carry the other end of program, Strom's worthless and Hurricane's a comedy worker. You put Guerrero in Hurrican'e place and throw Undertaker (or HHH) on A for Angle in Storm's and I'll take this because it allows me two guys to work with that have credibility, one I can re-tool (Jericho, and on that I can build a strong mid-card around and leave room for elevation (Guerrero).
Guest FeArHaVoC Posted February 4, 2003 Report Posted February 4, 2003 Indy Promotion, non-Televised Event. Group A National Televised Promotion Group B
Guest Coffey Posted February 5, 2003 Report Posted February 5, 2003 Alright, let's make some new groups. Also, for the sake of arguement, let's just say that you're Vince McMahon, running the WWE. This way no one bases their decision on Indy Feds or what not: Group A: Jamie Knoble Nuzio Billy Kidman Funaki Group B: Kane The Undertaker Batista Albert
Guest webmasterofwrestlegame Posted February 5, 2003 Report Posted February 5, 2003 B - it is harder to market smaller guys with little charisma as oppose to bigger guys with little charisma.
Guest Anglesault Posted February 5, 2003 Report Posted February 5, 2003 B Twice. I don't really like group 2B, but with a little work, people might care about Batista, and Taker and Kane draw SO MUCH more interest than Nunzio and Noble. Oh My God, I'm Vince McMahon
Guest Jobber of the Week Posted February 5, 2003 Report Posted February 5, 2003 I go with B twice, assuming that we start on a fresh slate and are looking at the guys as talent (IOW, we aren't factoring in Austin's lack of motivation or Rock's movie career. I would factor in Hogan's age though, since that's rather important.) I'd pick B the second time again, too. If you included Mysterio in A, then I would have gone for it.
Guest razazteca Posted February 5, 2003 Report Posted February 5, 2003 I take Group A and make into the wrestling show that could........Smackdown with Vince only doing payroll.
Guest Kahran Ramsus Posted February 5, 2003 Report Posted February 5, 2003 I will go with Group 1A & 2B. If they are not to be taken together you need 1B for name value. I wouldn't even consider 2A against potential main eventers in Taker & Kane. You don't even need the other two guys in that group and I would still pick 2B. I figure since I am getting Taker & Kane, I don't need the name value as much from 1B so I can get the better working group. Everyone in 1B except Angle will likely be done with wrestling soon, so if you don't need the immediate boost (and you wouldn't so much with Taker/Kane around) you go with Benoit, Eddy, Storm & Hurricane, and put over Benoit as the focus of the company. Noble is good, Nunzio could be a solid midcarder, but Funaki is basically ruined at this point and Kidman is too boring, so it makes the second choice easy.
Guest Coffey Posted February 5, 2003 Report Posted February 5, 2003 Group A: Rey Mysterio Test Kurt Angle Mark Henry Group B: Eddie Guerrero Chris Benoit Albert Bill DeMott
Guest Anglesault Posted February 5, 2003 Report Posted February 5, 2003 Oh, you mean hearted SOB. Group B, Because I refuse to have Test in my employ.
Guest CanadianChick Posted February 5, 2003 Report Posted February 5, 2003 B because Mark Henry is the most useless guy there.
Guest Space_Cowboy Posted February 5, 2003 Report Posted February 5, 2003 The first group i go with B for the greater star power, and good matches between Angle/Austin/Rock makes up for not taking Benoit & Guerrero. The second group i go B again, i'll go with Taker and Kane over a bucnh of lower mid-card cruiserweights, even though Noble rules. The 3rd group, both have two great and two shit, but i'll go with B again, DeMott and Albert i'll take over Henry and Test, and i prefer Benoit/Guerrero to Mysterio/Angle, though it's a hard choice.
Guest Choken One Posted February 5, 2003 Report Posted February 5, 2003 Group A easy. Angle can easily work Face or Heel and be the focus of my company since I can sell him moreso then Benoit, while Mysterio can be my ultimo Face and Test could make a decent Heel. Group B lacks drawing power and the two "bad" choices are too horrible, since Test as opposed to Albert is marketable.
Guest Coffey Posted February 5, 2003 Report Posted February 5, 2003 Group A: Chris Jericho Chris Benoit Chris Kanyon Steve Austin Group B: Kurt Angle Rey Mysterio Eddie Guerrero The Rock
Guest Choken One Posted February 5, 2003 Report Posted February 5, 2003 Group B wins. Rock/Angle can work for Months...Mysterio is insanely over and Eddy can Work it. Group A Lacks Drawing power and characters.
Guest Coffey Posted February 5, 2003 Report Posted February 5, 2003 Group B wins. Rock/Angle can work for Months...Mysterio is insanely over and Eddy can Work it. Group A Lacks Drawing power and characters. Actually, I was mid-edit when you replied. Austin replaced Chavo.
Guest Steviekick Posted February 5, 2003 Report Posted February 5, 2003 Group A...as they're constantly holding titles in my fantasy SM:SYM scenario
Guest Choken One Posted February 5, 2003 Report Posted February 5, 2003 Group B wins. Rock/Angle can work for Months...Mysterio is insanely over and Eddy can Work it. Group A Lacks Drawing power and characters. Actually, I was mid-edit when you replied. Austin replaced Chavo. Well..Shit...Then I am torn...Austin/jericho never worked good and Angle/Rock have...I'd say with Group B though.
Guest razazteca Posted February 5, 2003 Report Posted February 5, 2003 damn its a tuff choice but Eddie and Rey can work forever and Angle vs Eddie can go on forever also. The Rock will get the marks, Rey gets the spotfest, Eddie and Kurt for workrate.
Guest Space_Cowboy Posted February 5, 2003 Report Posted February 5, 2003 Group A: Chris Jericho Chris Benoit Chris Kanyon Steve Austin Group B: Kurt Angle Rey Mysterio Eddie Guerrero The Rock Wow, tough choice. I'd probably go with group B, Rock and Angle provide planty of star power, and all four could tear it up in the ring, though we haven't seen how Rock/Mysterio would turn out.
Guest Choken One Posted February 5, 2003 Report Posted February 5, 2003 Hey JAGO...Use some old school guys in here as well...cause then this will get repeitive quick.
Guest Coffey Posted February 5, 2003 Report Posted February 5, 2003 Hey JAGO...Use some old school guys in here as well...cause then this will get repeitive quick. Group A: Macho Man Randy Savage The Honky Tonk Man Ravashing Rick Rude Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat Group B: Barry Windham Ric Flair Arn Anderson Yugi Nagata
boobshaw Posted February 5, 2003 Report Posted February 5, 2003 I would split group A up into two seperate groups. Push one guy up to the top of group Aa and let him win every match and keep his little heat until his legs fell off. Ab would put on better shows but everyone would have to have short hair. I would then have group B invade group A. Then have a mystery group C form in one week, join B, and take on A until they all ended up just falling into one another. I would then split this group ABC by using a draft. B would get the good wrestlers, A would get ok wrestlers, but one main guy who has no ego, whatsoever. Then ratings, buyrates, merchandise sales and morale would shoot through the roof. Did I mention everyone had to have short hair? And testicles?
Guest creativename Posted February 5, 2003 Report Posted February 5, 2003 A, no doubt. It hurts to not pick Flair, but Savage and Steamboat? These guys can draw short-term, as well as put on great matches--which means they can draw long-term. Also, with B, you don't quite have the complete Horsemen, so it just isn't the same.
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