Guest CanadianChris Posted February 6, 2003 Report Posted February 6, 2003 Test > A-Train, the middle two are a wash, and Angle > Benoit. Definitely 12A.
Guest Space_Cowboy Posted February 6, 2003 Report Posted February 6, 2003 Group A Test Rosey Rikishi Angle Group B A-Train Jamal Bill Demott Benoit Three shit and one good one both sides, so i'll go 12A, Angle over Benoit. Though i prefer DeMott over the fat samoans and Hair-Train.
Guest Anglesault Posted February 6, 2003 Report Posted February 6, 2003 Test > A-Train No he's not. Ugh, I have to go with A. But Test is my primo Jobber, wears an "I'm the jobber shirt" has "I'm the Jobber" music, and gets pinned by anyone willing to pay 20 bucks.
Guest Kahran Ramsus Posted February 6, 2003 Report Posted February 6, 2003 12B. Jamal & Rosie are the same to me. But A-Train & DeMott are clearly better than Test & Rikishi. I would probably rather have Angle than Benoit if I had to choose, but it is really too close to make much of a difference. I would have to turn one of A-Train or DeMott face though. DeMott did pretty well as a face in 2000, so I would probably pick him. Plus he should get Tough Enough sympathy heat after the Rocco Rock thing.
Guest Angle-plex Posted February 6, 2003 Report Posted February 6, 2003 What about the best of all time list~! Group A Austin (1997) Rock (1999) Angle (Current) Benoit (Whenever) Group B Hogan (1985) Flair (1989) Savage (1989) Steamboat (1989)
Guest Anglesault Posted February 6, 2003 Report Posted February 6, 2003 OOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Damn, that's hard. Group A. Hogan's lack of wrestling skills are the only thing sperating the two, IMO.
Guest Eagan469 Posted February 6, 2003 Report Posted February 6, 2003 What about the best of all time list~! Group A Austin (1997) Rock (1999) Angle (Current) Benoit (Whenever) Group B Hogan (1985) Flair (1989) Savage (1989) Steamboat (1989) shit shit shit..... Austin (1997) = wasn't APESHIT over until early 98 Rock (1999) = best in the business Angle (current) = great talent held down by lack of opposing talent Benoit = great wrestler, hard time getting over Hogan (1985) = huge, but didn't have ALL the fans behind him at this point Flair (1989) = supurb matches, but lacked platform (WWF) to get noticed Savage (1989) = top of his game, over as hell Steamboat (1989) = see: Flair I'll take group B
Guest Angle-plex Posted February 6, 2003 Report Posted February 6, 2003 Austin (1997) = wasn't APESHIT over until early 98 He was having better matches in '97, that was the only reason I picked it over '98. Hogan (1985) = huge, but didn't have ALL the fans behind him at this point Fuck, I meant 1987!!!
Guest Kahran Ramsus Posted February 6, 2003 Report Posted February 6, 2003 I have to go with Group B. I personally would like Group A better. But having Flair & Hogan in their primes is just too good to pass up. Hogan could have great matches with all three of these guys after his prime (he did so with Flair & Savage, and I do not doubt he would with Steamboat). This is tough, but I have to go with Group B.
Guest Choken One Posted February 6, 2003 Report Posted February 6, 2003 What about the best of all time list~! Group A Austin (1997) Rock (1999) Angle (Current) Benoit (Whenever) Group B Hogan (1985) Flair (1989) Savage (1989) Steamboat (1989) Hard...I'd say they are equal Austin=Savage Rock=Hogan Angle=Flair Benoit=Steamboat... Pretty identical in drawing power...In Group A, All have wrestled each other at one point and hit ****. Same goes for Group B save for Hogan/Steamboat... The edge has to go with Group A.
Guest Jobber of the Week Posted February 6, 2003 Report Posted February 6, 2003 My turn! Group A: Steve Austin (still has the neck injury, but healthy) Chris Benoit Rikishi Randy Orton Group B: Hulk Hogan (Old, retiring in months) Bret Hart (No stroke, no concussions. Ring-ready) Rob Van Dam Chris Nowinski It may sound awfully one-sided at first, but consider that Group B will be down a guy soon.
Guest Y2BigJ Posted February 6, 2003 Report Posted February 6, 2003 I have to go with B just because i hate Rikishi as much as anyone on the active roster. It is actually pretty close though.
Guest CanadianChris Posted February 6, 2003 Report Posted February 6, 2003 13B just because all of them could draw huge. And 14B because having an old Hogan for only a few months is WAY better than having Rikishi, period. What the hell ever happened to 2000 Rikishi? That guy could go when he wanted to.
Guest Kahran Ramsus Posted February 6, 2003 Report Posted February 6, 2003 13A. Bret is still old, so it would be no different than the rest of the nostalgia trip. Nobody wants to see Bret in the ring again, they just want to see Bret get a better send off, and farewell interview/clubbing of McMahon. Basically, we've got the best wrestler in the world today, a fat Samoan who pops the crowd, an up and comer that I would say has more potential than Nowinski with the right gimmick, and the greatest wrestler in WWF history who had an awesome 2001 and can still go if motivated vs. two cripples that can pop the crowd, a spot artist with little upside, and a rookie on par or a bit worse than Orton. This is probably the easiest choice out there. I would take Austin & Benoit alone over the other 4.
Guest Angle-plex Posted February 6, 2003 Report Posted February 6, 2003 What about the best of all time list~! Group A Austin (1997) Rock (1999) Angle (Current) Benoit (Whenever) Group B Hogan (1985) Flair (1989) Savage (1989) Steamboat (1989) Hard...I'd say they are equal Austin=Savage Rock=Hogan Angle=Flair Benoit=Steamboat... Pretty identical in drawing power...In Group A, All have wrestled each other at one point and hit ****. Same goes for Group B save for Hogan/Steamboat... The edge has to go with Group A. That makes me wonder, could Steamboat have carried Hogan to a **** match in 1989 or so?
Guest Choken One Posted February 6, 2003 Report Posted February 6, 2003 I am sure that if Savage could...Steamboat whom I consider just a notch below Savage could just as well.
Guest Kahran Ramsus Posted February 6, 2003 Report Posted February 6, 2003 Group A: Christian Lance Storm William Regal Sean O'Haire Group B Matt Hardy Jamie Noble Nunzio Nathan Jones
Guest Y2BigJ Posted February 7, 2003 Report Posted February 7, 2003 I like Jamie Noble and Matt Hardy but they are about equal with Christian and Lance Storm and Regal and Nunzio are similar as well. For me the big difference is Sean O'haire and Nathan Jones, Sean O'hair, at this point has the better character and is far better in the ring from all reports. Have to go with group A.
Guest Space_Cowboy Posted February 7, 2003 Report Posted February 7, 2003 Group A: Steve Austin (still has the neck injury, but healthy) Chris Benoit Rikishi Randy Orton Group B: Hulk Hogan (Old, retiring in months) Bret Hart (No stroke, no concussions. Ring-ready) Rob Van Dam Chris Nowinski Group A, Hogan and Hart are too old, RVD isn't that good, and Nowinski is green and in a gimmick that will go stale if it hasn't already. Austin is still great when he's on and Benoit's the best in the ring there is. Rikishi sucks but he pops the crowd, and Orton is basically = Nowinski, so those two cancel each other out.
Guest Space_Cowboy Posted February 7, 2003 Report Posted February 7, 2003 Group A: Christian Lance Storm William Regal Sean O'Haire Group B Matt Hardy Jamie Noble Nunzio Nathan Jones I'll go with B. Storm and Regal are boring as shit in the ring lately, Christian relys too much on restholds and reverse DDT's, and O'Haire may have a cool character, but he isn't very good in the ring. With B, Mattitude is a cool gimmick and he's decent in the ring, Noble is a mini-Benoit, Nunzio's good in the ring, and Nathan Jones is the same as O'Haire, cool gimmick but not good in the ring. Jones and O'Haire cancel, so I'll take Matt, Noble and Nunzio over Christian and the Commenwealth Connection.
Guest DawnBTVS Posted February 7, 2003 Report Posted February 7, 2003 Group A: Christian Lance Storm William Regal Sean O'Haire Group B Matt Hardy Jamie Noble Nunzio Nathan Jones Group B Matt Hardy: Could get over easy and is solid in the ring. Jamie Noble: See Matt Hardy Nunzio: Great worker and could get over with an FBI type character Nathan Jones: Could get over if just kept to vignettes with a manager to speak for him(A Bobby Heenan or somebody). Ring work would suck but the other three could make up for it.
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