Offical Rob's take on Gay Rights thread

[Guest NoCalMike]

"all men are created equal" so with that said, I guess equal RIGHTS would come next.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

I'm not really surprised. Falwell and Robertson have done alot to inadverantly drive people away from God with what they say

That's a stupid reason to be turn away from God. So some preacher says something you don't like, why would you turn away from God.

[Guest TheGame2705]

I personally hate most gatherings. Be happy with what you are but you don't have to make a huge rawkus because you're Colombian or gay or Black or whatnot. I did Marches for Jesus and I think it's nice to do that stuff to get the word out there but shoving it in people's faces isn't the best way to do it. Nowadays people are very bitchy and if you do something they don't feel comfortable with, you're all of a sudden obsessive and pushy. It's wrong to have a Nativity scene in front of city halls but it's right to fund Boricuan festivals where the only thing that happens is rape and domestic disturbances. If we can't have the damn Ten Commandments or a menorah in a city place, then I don't want skinny Abercrombie-wearing femmes coming down a main road telling me to come out of my closet. I see no logic in saying it's ok to be gay because it's a lifestyle but being a Christian is stupid.

[Guest JMA]

That's a stupid reason to be turn away from God. So some preacher says something you don't like, why would you turn away from God.

Most people are turned away from something when a fanatic endorses it. I'd also say idiots like Falwell and Robertson have hurt the right-wing with their hypocritical beliefs. They have sort of an anti-Midas touch. As long as the religious don't use their beliefs to justify hate, they're okay with me.

[Guest NoCalMike]

Jerry Fauwell probably does just as much harm for christianity as he does good. Anyone with half a brain can obviously see that guys like him and Robertson just use Christianity as a front to move the conservative agenda ahead. I remember when Jerry F. was getting asked about issue after issue and it was right wing right down the line, not even a HINT of budging on ANYTHING.

[Guest RobJohnstone]

You are a fucking idiot of the higherst form...  FUCK YOU.  NO.  FUCK YOU AGAIN.  FUCK YOU SOME MORE YOU STUPID ASSHOLE.

BTW, FUCK YOU TYLER YOU ASSHOLE.

 

That's way over the line for flaming, Rob. Calm it down, right now.

Hey Jingus, she flames me by calling me rasicist with nothing to back it up? I just defended myself and I was extremely pissed off. I think you should be placing warnings in other directions because it is plain as day they are trying to make me looks bad. I believe my response was just and I really would suggest for you to place warnings to tyler for flaming me in the first place. Any person who tries to put me down with comments that are obviously not true, will get a nice FUCK YOU back at them.

 

--Rob

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

"I think you should be placing warnings in other directions because it is plain as day they are trying to make me looks bad."

 

You make yourself look bad frequently, which means that Jingus should be placing warnings in your direction. Hehehe..

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

You are a fucking idiot of the higherst form...  FUCK YOU.  NO.  FUCK YOU AGAIN.  FUCK YOU SOME MORE YOU STUPID ASSHOLE.

BTW, FUCK YOU TYLER YOU ASSHOLE.

 

That's way over the line for flaming, Rob. Calm it down, right now.

Hey Jingus, she flames me by calling me rasicist with nothing to back it up? I just defended myself and I was extremely pissed off. I think you should be placing warnings in other directions because it is plain as day they are trying to make me looks bad. I believe my response was just and I really would suggest for you to place warnings to tyler for flaming me in the first place. Any person who tries to put me down with comments that are obviously not true, will get a nice FUCK YOU back at them.

 

--Rob

Sorry, I forgot that segregation and anti-Semitism wasn't racist.

 

*sigh*

 

From where do we keep digging this guy up?

[Guest RobJohnstone]

look dick, when did I say I was a segregationist? When did I say I was an anti-semite? Stop making shit up you fucking asshole.

 

--Rob

[Guest Powerplay]

look dick, when did I say I was a segregationist?  When did I say I was an anti-semite?  Stop making shit up you fucking asshole.

 

--Rob

You deny the holocaust. That's quite anti-semetic. Then you support Pat Buchanan, who has always been in favor of segregation.

[Guest Retro Rob]

Before this thread gets closed, I wanted to get my own comments in. Honestly, Rob, you said SO MUCH stupid shit, I can't even bother to quote it. Instead I will go off on various tangents based on your ignorance.

 

First, you want to know why you should explain homosexuality to your children? BECAUSE THERE IS A DAMN GOOD CHANCE THEY WILL END UP KNOWING A HOMOSEXUAL DURING THEIR LIFE. Are so so fucking stupid that you don't see the logic in telling your children that people are different, but everyone should be treated equally nonetheless. I would love it if it turned out one of your kids was homosexual. Then they could tell you to your face that you are a fucking bigot, but since you don't have kids, it's good you have us to do it for you. Not to the mention the fact that you pride yourself on loving Jesus Christ, well guess what... Supposedly during his years on Earth, Jesus didn't really help people like you. Instead he helped the underpriveliged, or outcasted people, which believe it or not included gays.

 

YOU, yes YOU, are the reason why I hate religion. Because in most cases it isn't the level-headed people who speak out on their faith, it is loud-mouthed pieces of shit like YOU. Now before you call me a bigot for HATING religion, I don't prejudge people as soon as they tell me that are Chrisitians, or what have you. Instead I get to know them and then decide how I feel, unlike you who bases your feeling towards others on their sexual preferences and probably other external factors like race.

 

You're an ass, it's that simple and quite frankly I'm shocked and appalled that you haven't been banned for the last few threads you start in this folder.

 

I'm done.

[Guest The Hamburglar]

Quite frankly, at many boards I believe that holocaust denial could easily lead to a banning. There is no reason for a non-anti-semite to hold that belief. None at all. It is not based on any modicum of reason and is only propagated by hatemongers.

[Guest bob_barron]

look dick, when did I say I was a segregationist? When did I say I was an anti-semite? Stop making shit up you fucking asshole.

 

--Rob

Hey Rob-

Instead of getting in pissing contests with people why don't you defend the points other people have made? If Tyler calling you stuff makes you so mad- just ignore him and concentrate on defending the arguments people have made to your original post

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

look dick, when did I say I was a segregationist?  When did I say I was an anti-semite?  Stop making shit up you fucking asshole.

 

--Rob

You deny the holocaust. That's quite anti-semetic. Then you support Pat Buchanan, who has always been in favor of segregation.

Exactly.

 

It's guilt by association, so prove us wrong.

[Guest Kibagami]

He already proved us wrong, Tyler. We're part of that goddamned liberal conspiracy, remember? We're out to get him.

 

::snicker::

 

K.

[Guest kkktookmybabyaway]

"You deny the holocaust. That's quite anti-semetic."

 

Denying the holocaust isn't anti-Semetic -- it's dumb, but not anti-Semetic. Now if someone would say, "Them dirty Jews made up the holocaust because they wanted to take over the media" or something else just as insane, then I would tend to call that person anti-Semetic, but by saying "I don't think the holocaust happened" I doubt is an anti-Semetic statement in itself (of course more might have been said that I don't know about, which makes this post a moot point)...

[Guest DrTom]

Denying the holocaust isn't anti-Semetic -- it's dumb, but not anti-Semetic.

Agreed. Saying the holocaust never happened is incredibly naive and stupid, but I don't think it's necessarily anti-Semitic. Willful ignorance of history and intellectual immaturity do not make someone a bigot. However, Rob, I think Jingus' warning to you was quite justified. Had you bothered to actually refute what people were saying instead of just going with a fuck-you screed, perhaps you'd have some sympathy for your position.

[Guest The Hamburglar]

But what earthly motive other than anti-semitism would anyone have to deny the Holocaust? Even revisionist historians aren't that crazed. Why would anyone do it?

[Guest Samurai_Goat]

For the same reason people say the moon landing didn't happen. They claim that people are trying to distrort history to justify actions and control people. I think. I didn't come up with it, so I'm kinda shakey on the idea.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

Did Rob say the holocaust didn't happen, or that it the number of people killed isn't has great as most people think?

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

By denying the holocaust, you're basically saying "Well, all those Jew bastards are lying about it, they deserve no credibility, and they should be ashamed of themselves for claiming all-mighty Hitler is such a big bad guy."

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

He said it didn't happen, that some Jews died of diseases in the camps because of close quarters, but none were executed.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

He said it didn't happen, that some Jews died of diseases in the camps because of close quarters, but none were executed.

If some did die from disease wouldn't that still be considered murder?

[Guest Tyler McClelland]

I'm assuming he looks at in the same terms that the Ancient Romans looked at the execution of a Vestal Virgin. Since killing a Vestal Virgin was punishable by death, and since losing their virginity was subject to their execution, they would entomb the woman and say "It's out of our hands, so while we didn't kill her..."

[Guest RobJohnstone]

Did Rob say the holocaust didn't happen, or that it the number of people killed isn't has great as most people think?

 

By denying the holocaust, you're basically saying "Well, all those Jew bastards are lying about it, they deserve no credibility, and they should be ashamed of themselves for claiming all-mighty Hitler is such a big bad guy."

 

I am not saying that, you are putting words in my mouth and trying to make me look bad. Hitler was a terrible person, there are no doubts about that. But if you were a dictator trying to win a world war, would you kill everyone that was making shit to support your efforts in camps you control? Think about it.

 

verne, people did die, but no where near 4 million. The russian government re-stated the number in 1989 to about 1.1 million. The curator of Auschwitz Dr. Franciszek Piper helped figure in that new number. The thing I was trying to say was the jews were in facotries in the camps making weapons and ammo and stuff like that to further the war effort. There is no way you would want to wipe out free labor. There were also extremely large cases of typhoid going around and killing many., As you would imagine, hygene was not the best in these camps. Dr. F Piper Wrote a book "AUSCHWITZ How Many Perished Jews, Poles, Gypsies..."

My whole point is the nazi party probably had the jewish people working in camps in germany and poland, just as americans had camps in california set up for the japanese during that period. Those 1.1 million that died, died either while having disease (You've obviously seen the pictures of people all skinny looking and sick looking) and if they did not just die, some, not all were probably gassed just to get rid of them.

 

I do not know why because I have a different opinion, people would call me anti-semetic.

 

Also, you say I am guilty by association for supporting pat buchanan, and because you think he is rascist. Am I rascist also for saying George Washington was a great president, even though he owned slaves?

 

Edit: Also in the book "AUSCHWITZ: Teqnique and operation of the cas chambers" written by Jean-Claude PRESSAC he states that 95% of the Zyclon-B was used for disinfection purposes. That is pretty wierd considering the book was written to refute revisionists.

 

--Rob

[Guest bob_barron]

As usual Rob you have deviated from the original topic. No suprise there.

 

But if you were a dictator trying to win a world war, would you kill everyone that was making shit to support your efforts in camps you control? Think about it.

 

I have no idea what you were trying to say there but Hitler picked the Jews as a scapegoat for WW1 and the Treaty of Versailles

[Guest RobJohnstone]

bob, I did not switch the topic, I was replying to verne. Did you not read me replying to verne? Did you not see that?

 

--Rob

[Guest Powerplay]

But if you were a dictator trying to win a world war, would you kill everyone that was making shit to support your efforts in camps you control? Think about it.

The Jews were making shit, Rob? Huh? I don't remember them revolting or anything. They were taken from their homes and shipped out to Concentration Camps because they were Jewish and no other reason. That's just stupidity.

[Guest bob_barron]

bob, I did not switch the topic, I was replying to verne. Did you not read me replying to verne? Did you not see that?

 

--Rob

Yes you did- You still haven't addressed what other people said about the original topic