The Dames 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2003 I've noticed that with all of the new names coming into the fed, either being signed, returning from an injury or coming up from OVW like Red Dogg, Nathan Jones, Sean O'Haire, Kanyon, Rhyno, the majority of you all want them on Smackdown. To me, all of these guys belong on Raw. Don't you feel that in order to improve Raw that they'd need to bring in new talent? I know this will probably turn into a HHH hate thread, which I really wouldn't like, but there's tons of talent on Smackdown and in order for Raw to even compete they should try and bring in guys who aren't stale and can freshen things up a bit. Raw's midcard is an absolute mess and some of these guys could make an impact and maybe give you another reason to watch Raw. That's the whole point of this split, to make it competive, isn't it? Dames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest oldschoolwrestling Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Raw seems to want to be the "Sports Entertainment" show. Smackdown has Paul Heyman influence and at least has some wrestling. They could evenly divide the names into both shows, but the writing being what it is will continue to make it the lesser show. Until the writing changes, no one deserves that fate. And that's not even taking into account the Triple Ghey factor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest eirejmcmahon Report post Posted February 7, 2003 The problem with Raw rests with the creative team, not the roster. Until they get someone on Raw who can actually write a half-decent wrestling show, new talent will be better served over on Smackdown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest notJames Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Ditto. That's why someone like O'Haire will more than likely land on RAW, since his persona/gimmick is much stronger than his ring skills. It's not that people actively want RAW to be bad. It's just that RAW is so bad right now that they feel bad for new wrestlers who could make an impact but will most likely be booked into meaningless crap. Not to say that SD! is exempt from booking nonsense, but the instances have been fewer and farther between. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Si82 Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Well I do think that Raw does need some new talent on the roster. The majority of them are a bunch of mid-carders who either have no heat to start with or people are simply past caring about them as they been in the same roles for years now. Guys like D'Lo Brown and the Dudley Boyz for instance. However, new talent and guys that the fans cared about are normally wiped out by Triple H. I didn't want to spew Triple H hate (like you said would happen) but I do feel that he is a cancer on Raw. In recent times guys like Booker T and Rob Van Dam have become popular with the fans only to be jobbed to Triple H and send to stew in mid-card hell. I do want to see new talent on Raw, anything would be preferable to the dross on it at the moment. But I fell that it would all be in vain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dames 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Alright...well, Nathan Jones and Sean O'Haire have been built up well with video packages, yet their wrestling skills aren't great. Why not put them on Raw where they can use their "sports entertainment" factor and put it to use? The same can be said for Kanyon, even though he can actually work. Dames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChick Report post Posted February 7, 2003 I agree with you Dames. I want new talent to go to Raw. Face it, on Smackdown, they will be lost in the shuffle. You can argue that HHH will bury them, blah,blah, blah. But in reality, the new wrestlers have a better chance of exposure. Hell, D'Lo Brown is appearing on Raw. Do you think that someone at about D'Lo's level, like maybe Kanyon, would make it on Smackdown a whole lot? Probably not. While I know most people want to keep Smackdown the better show, you cannot have talent overload, if you catch my drift. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest oldschoolwrestling Report post Posted February 7, 2003 The problem with that is you are adding to more characters with no great wrestling skills to a show that doesn't showcase wrestling skills. They need a mixture to be successful. I can't remember a wrestling match on Raw lately that was long. Smackdown seems to have 1 every week. Why can't they have at least one long, good match? I don't care if its curtain jerk, mid show or main event. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChick Report post Posted February 7, 2003 The problem with that is you are adding to more characters with no great wrestling skills to a show that doesn't showcase wrestling skills. They need a mixture to be successful. I can't remember a wrestling match on Raw lately that was long. Smackdown seems to have 1 every week. Why can't they have at least one long, good match? I don't care if its curtain jerk, mid show or main event. Actually, that might be because there aren't, at the moment, many wrestlers who can have a long entertaining match that are on the Raw roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest oldschoolwrestling Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Smackdown did it with 6 wrestlers show after show. Raw can come up with 6 and have them bust ass. Its just whether they will allow them to or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kahran Ramsus Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Jones & O'Haire should go to RAW (as should Austin). Kanyon on the other hand is a better wrestler than entertainer, so should be on Smackdown. RAWs problem is with the lack of main eventers, but I agree, they need guys more than Smackdown does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest saturnmark4life Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Like it or not, it DOES all come back to hhh not wanting to be upstaged, or having anyone threatening his spot. He must still be pissed that scott steiner was put there, because he knows he won't take any crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChick Report post Posted February 7, 2003 I think that Raw should get more talented workers. Right now, it's just ridiculous how imbalanced the workers are. I want more wrestlers who can entertain me with matches. I don't agree with the feeling that workers should go on Smackdown and entertainers should go on Raw. Face it, if all the good characters go on Raw, the writing team will for sure screw up 1, if not more, of the characters. But they can't screw up good wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest notJames Report post Posted February 7, 2003 You can if you relegate it to only 2 minutes of airtime book-ended by Evolution beatdowns and long-winded promos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChick Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Yes, but they have a better chance of screwing up a good characters than a 10-15 minute wrestling match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest converge241 Report post Posted February 7, 2003 I have no preference where they slot the call-ups or new wrestlers except that id like them to be split up evenly so as Dames pointed out you get the influx on both rosters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted February 7, 2003 RAW needs to use what they have. They already have a much bigger roster than Smackdown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mecha Mummy 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Yeah, Raw has a much bigger roster. That's why I'd like to see Smackdown get some more guys, particularly Kanyon. Raw can have Jones for all I care. O'Haire, however, is a toss-up to me. Rhyno? As long as he's kicking ass when he returns (Whenever the hell that is), I don't care. GORE GORE GORE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Screw Raw...that show deserves to wallow in the filth of HHH. Hell I say take Booker T and Jericho off Raw. They deserve less talent. Ship Albert, Rikishi, Bill Demott and all those other such bums to Raw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Put the guys who suck in the ring on Raw. That's where they belong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dames 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2003 So basically you want one show to watch, abandoning the other completely... And to think, everyone says WWE needs competition. Dames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mecha Mummy 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Wow. Do you guys WANT to see WWE go out of business? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Raw is such a bad show now, there's way too much HHH and Bischoff taking up tv time. You hate to see someone show up for a few weeks and get buried right away. At least on Smackdown they have a fighting chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Dames 0 Report post Posted February 7, 2003 What about when UPN pulls the plug on Smackdown due to their own (UPN's) troubles...then what? Dames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Human Fly Report post Posted February 7, 2003 What about when UPN pulls the plug on Smackdown due to their own (UPN's) troubles...then what? People have been talking about UPN going off the air since 5 minutes after it went on the air. I'll believe it when it happens. If it did there would be some network out there who would be willing to take the show. Even with wrestling going down in popularity it still pulls in UPN's best numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted February 7, 2003 well is'nt Batista, Ortan, Teddy Long consider "new talent" ? I dont care about Nathan Jones but I would like to see Rhyno and Kanyon be on Raw. If they can get Rhyno to do more than just grunt and snarl then he would be somewhat entertaining and you know Raw cannot have enough fat bastards on tv, if 3MW were given a push just think what Rhyno can do, maybe in 2 months he can job to Batista or Kane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Austin3164life Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Raw is desperately in need of a good main eventer, and since they seem to not want to elevate Booker T or RVD, Austin should definitely go to Raw, because Triple H taking up 20 minutes of Raw won't cut it with the fans. Nathan Jones and Sean O'Haire should also go to Raw, because who knows, the fans might just start liking them (that is if Gewertz doesn't screw them up). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted February 7, 2003 Wow. Do you guys WANT to see WWE go out of business? Honestly...yes i do I'd rather have one great show over one good show and one shitty show that's wasting good talent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted February 7, 2003 What about when UPN pulls the plug on Smackdown due to their own (UPN's) troubles...then what? Dames Then all of the talent is on Raw and some dead weight is fired. Then HHH either loses alot of power or the whole roster is now a sinking ship not just the Raw roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ravenbomb Report post Posted February 7, 2003 I think they should change rosters completely. Wrestlers, managers, GM's, commentators, name, everything. THEN you can put all the good people on Smackdown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
