Guest redneckBEBE Report post Posted February 16, 2003 I compiled this list with some other Internet smarks whose opinion on wrestling I respect a great deal. They don't come to this board because they can't deal with all of the Benoit love/anyone over 6'5" hating. Here's our Top 10: 1. Booker T "DEFINITELY." "He's a 13-year veteran who still needs to be lead by the hand, and the fact that he does his flying forearm so lazy these days really pisses me off." 2. Christian "Hmm. I think Christian is ridiculously overrated." "Unless you like lots of stomping and choking." 3. Kanyon "Well, when everyone was all saying he was great...look who he was working with...DDP, Raven, Benoit, etc...of course he's gonna have good matches." "He hasn't innovated jack shit since 1998, and he was never that good in the first place." 4. Lance Storm "Lance Storm is the most overrated worker fucking EVER...except for a brief period in WCW. He sucked in WAR, he didn't really do it for me in ECW, and he had like...3 months of greatness in WCW. " "He can't even throw a decent punch, and I take offense to his disgusting pokers." 5. HHH "He's not really overrated though, is he?" "He is by everyone at Titan Tower." 6. Jamie Noble "I think Jamie Noble is overrated. Real bad. I like him, but he's not THAT great." "Yeah. He's pretty boring for a cruiser. Good, sound psychology but boring as fuck." 7. The Hurricane "He's a smart mark fan boy's dream...comic books and puro moves." "LOL...It's so true though." 8 & 9. Team Angle "I like Shelton...but Charlie Haas is Meat 2.0. They haven't been there long enough though." "They've had like 3 matches and everybody has already decided that they are the 2nd coming. I'm sorry, but I'm not gonna mark for a couple of Angle clones." 10. Trish Stratus "She fucking sucks. Fuck Trish." "Fuck women's wrestling. No one wants to see that. At least NWA-TNA has the right idea with the cage dancers." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted February 16, 2003 They don't come this board because they can't deal with all of the Benoit love/anyone over 6'5" hating. That's one of the most pathetic statements I've ever heard. I disagree with Booker and Noble being on that last. Noble incorporates psychology into his matches- see Vengeance. 1. Booker T "DEFINITELY. Wow what a convincing point. Booker T is one of the best workers on RAW. He gets the crowd into his matches and he has a vast array of different kicks and moves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redneckBEBE Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Read the quote. We recognized Noble's psychology, but said that he was still boring as fuck. And Booker T is just NOT a good worker. He's inept. What is "most best"? Is that like "bestest"? Yes. Educated feet obviously means you're a great worker. Unless you're X-Pac. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redneckBEBE Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Don't be misguided by the fact that Booker T's PARTNER is the best worker on RAW. It just shows you how great Goldust actually is that he can cover up for Booker's blahness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted February 16, 2003 It's not boring as fuck- watch as he kills Kidman's shoulder the whole match and counters all of his comebacks and then incorporates psychology into the finisher. He's one of the few guys in WWE to actually do that. Sorry about my typo- I'll edit it. How is Booker T "inept"? As he ever badly botched a spot or seriously injure someone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuna_Firerose 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2003 The Hurricane? Yeah... high-flying moves are *really* overrated. And what he lacks in the ring, if anything, he more than makes up for it with his comedy. Christian? Same deal as Hurricane...what he lacks in the ring, he makes up for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redneckBEBE Report post Posted February 16, 2003 You say Booker is a good worker because he has a "vast array of different kicks and moves". Well, great. Having a bunch of kicks in your arsenal doesn't make you a great worker. Being a great worker means that you can WORK. And a great worker doesn't blow spots and have to be lead by the hand by superior workers like Jericho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Don't be misguided by the fact that Booker T's PARTNER is the best worker on RAW. It just shows you how great Goldust actually is that he can cover up for Booker's blahness. I love Goldie but I don't think he's the best worker. Jericho is much better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuna_Firerose 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Unless you're X-Pac. Hey! And Goldust? He's good for backstage stuff? But in the ring? Bleh...pretty boring, in my opinion. I'm talking in terms of moves, not how he can get the crowd to react. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the pinjockey Report post Posted February 16, 2003 I am just glad that I now know that I don't want to see women's wrestling. And it is good to see the valiant attempt made to defend the people over 6'5" as opposed to sitting on the sidelines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redneckBEBE Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Yuna, this list is Top 10 Most Overrated Workers. So comedy stylings would not be a factor at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted February 16, 2003 You say Booker is a good worker because he has a "vast array of different kicks and moves". Well, great. Having a bunch of kicks in your arsenal doesn't make you a great worker. Being a great worker means that you can WORK. And a great worker doesn't blow spots and have to be lead by the hand by superior workers like Jericho. Yes it does- He does a bunch of different moves each match. I don't really notice Booker blowing spots or being led by the hand by Jericho either. He always holds his own in matches and doesn't need to be carried at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redneckBEBE Report post Posted February 16, 2003 I don't know what to say to that. Either you need to watch his matches with a smarter eye, or you are just seeing what you want to see. I mean...I have videotape evidence of Jericho leading him every step of the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuna_Firerose 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Yuna, this list is Top 10 Most Overrated Workers. So comedy stylings would not be a factor at all. Sorry...in-ring only. Still, I don't think Hurricane is overrated. Anyone else want to defend him, or shall I be the only one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2003 They won't come on here because we love Benoit and hate hosses??? I've heard of people not coming here because of the HHHate, but that's a new one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted February 16, 2003 anyone over 6'5" hating. What about The Rock. And that's also because most people over 6'5 suck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redneckBEBE Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Not everyone over 6'5" is a "hoss". Just like everyone under 6'5" is not a "vanilla midget". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted February 16, 2003 What's your point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redneckBEBE Report post Posted February 16, 2003 And that's also because most people over 6'5 suck Just because Regal is 6'5" with boots on doesn't mean that we need to write off all of the tall workers... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Why bring Regal into this thread? I like him- get over it The fact is that most workers over 6'5 in WWE do in fact suck. I like The Rock and Brock off the top of my head but I can't think of anyone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Rock is over 6'5"??? We're just tired of slow, lumbering, wrestlers who never sell and have no charisma. Not all hosses are tall though. When you say hate for wrestlers over 6'5" I think you mean Hoss hate, because I'm not getting the Over 6'5" thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted February 16, 2003 According to wwe.com Rock is 6'5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redneckBEBE Report post Posted February 16, 2003 For example, La Parka pretty much sucks, but you never get any flack about your posting gimmick. But Undertaker marks...we can't have that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2003 I didn't know he was that tall.......probably an exaggeration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Yes- you can be an Undertaker mark if you want to. Just be prepared to BACK UP YOUR OPINIONS. I don't like Undertaker because he never rarely makes anyone look good and routinely makes his opponents look like complete losers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Mighty Damaramu Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Oh yeah damn us to hell. The best worker in the WWF is our favorite wrestler. What were we thinking liking one of the best ever? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Army Eye Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Sounds like they were all written by the same person to me. Agreed on Booker T, thought he was an above-average worker in WCW, but has gotten pretty bad. I can only recall his WCW title matches with Angle as good matches he has had in the WWF. 2. Christian "Hmm. I think Christian is ridiculously overrated." "Unless you like lots of stomping and choking." Does anyone still regard him as a good worker? People give him props for his promos and especially backstage skits which he is really good in. I admit I used to be on the Christian bandwagon (as a wrestler) but that was long ago, it's clear he's best suited as a tag wrestler now. 3. Kanyon "Well, when everyone was all saying he was great...look who he was working with...DDP, Raven, Benoit, etc...of course he's gonna have good matches." "He hasn't innovated jack shit since 1998, and he was never that good in the first place." You're SO far off here. Kanyon was getting love when he was Mortis, and fighting with stiffs like Glacier, Wrath, Ernest Miller, etc. Saying someone is overrated just because they had good opponents in some matches is one of the all-time smark fallacies. STFU with that. It takes two, you know. You gonna tell me that Benoit/Albert was a good match? Or Angle/Big Show at the Dec. PPV? And since when were DDP and Raven such automatics when it comes to carrying people to good matches? I missed that memo.. 4. Lance Storm "Lance Storm is the most overrated worker fucking EVER...except for a brief period in WCW. He sucked in WAR, he didn't really do it for me in ECW, and he had like...3 months of greatness in WCW. " "He can't even throw a decent punch, and I take offense to his disgusting pokers." Disagreed on Storm, when they give him time to go (not often), he comes through. For example, he had a great match vs. Edge at SS 2001, and carried RVD to a couple of very good matches. 10. Trish Stratus "She fucking sucks. Fuck Trish." "Fuck women's wrestling. No one wants to see that. At least NWA-TNA has the right idea with the cage dancers." Insightful comments there. What about her workrate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redneckBEBE Report post Posted February 16, 2003 He can do that. He's The Undertaker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2003 For example, La Parka pretty much sucks, but you never get any flack about your posting gimmick. But Undertaker marks...we can't have that. YOU TAKE THAT BACK!!!!! Actually I have no problem with LaParka. He was your average luchadore in WCW and did a good job. He was entertaining, which was what made me mark out for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redneckBEBE Report post Posted February 16, 2003 I also like La Parka. I'm just saying... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites