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Top 10 Most Overrated WWE Workers

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Guest Goodear

Goodear's Top Five Overrated Workers in WWE

... sans quotes from other people but with commentary from me... I don't get to watch RAW though so these are all Smackdown folks.

 

 

1) Matt Hardy

 

- Somehow turning this guy heel made him twice the worker in the minds of the board... which is odd since he works the same exact style match. There is hardly a wrestler on the roster that has more forgettable matches than this guy. The little Matt Facts are fun but not the most exciting things in the world as some people seem to be claiming.

 

2) Team Angle

 

- Just like Kurt Angle without any of the things that make him interesting. They add in this matwork put have absolutely no direction or energy behind it. It's like they put on an armbar, do nothing with it, hold onto it... and wash and repeat.

 

3) Funaki

 

- Has this guy had an entertaining match in over 5 years of working for WWE? Hell, he was carried by Kai En Tai his whole M-Pro career anyway in those ten men matches where he could be easily hidden behind the talents of TAKA and Dick Togo and work against Sasuki and Hamada. Never been impressed by this guy.

 

4) Kurt Angle

 

- One of the better workers in the federation, granted... but a number of people seem to think that excuses him from using even basic psychology beyond slapping on the ankle lock twice in rapid succession. The guy doesn't seem able to set up a finish to save his life and doesn't use his mat wrestling skills as well as he can. But on the overrated scale it's like he's a 8 but people treat him like a 10 so its not so bad.

 

5) Jamie Noble

 

- Just a bit overrated as 'this guy that would be hugely over if they pushed him' sort of guy. Since he was all pushed as hard as he's going to get during his cruiserweight title run and people still didn't react to his presence. The gimmick just doesn't scream heel and his in ring performance didn't really do a whole lot to draw the folks into a match. I think he would work better in a tag environment as shown by his overlooked match w/ Tajiri against Billy and Chuck.

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Guest BionicRedneck

Noble is NOT overrated. He is pretty awesome, actually.

 

What about Test, Jeff Hardy, Helmsley, Michaels etc.?

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Guest HartFan86

Not to be the Devil's advocate, but I love how a thread about overrated WWE workers turns into Puro talk (And no, I didn't read every post so don't tweak at me if I'm misunderstanding, but just seeing all the Puro names made me laugh in this type of thread).

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Guest Goodear
Noble is NOT overrated. He is pretty awesome, actually.

 

What about Test, Jeff Hardy, Helmsley, Michaels etc.?

Overrated by the WWE... but not by this board which is what the discussion is about. Hell, the board basically has more fun trying to pick out what drugs Jeff Hardy is on that day than watching his matches.

 

Noble is skilled but doesn't grab attention the way that would warrent a huge push that the board seems to want to give him.

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Guest saturnmark4life

I am always pleasantly surprised by Noble, I thought 'Oh great another kidman' (add HIM to overrated) But his psychology and crisp transitions are rarely rivalled in WWE. He needs a ppv feud with Tajiri. They could work wonders with 10 minutes or so.

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Guest bob_barron

Considering Noble is in the doghouse and getting jobbed out- how is he overrated by WWE?

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Guest Goodear
Considering Noble is in the doghouse and getting jobbed out- how is he overrated by WWE?

Dude asked why I didn't list Test and Jeff Hardy on my list. I countered by saying that they are overrated by the WWE but not the board. I then said that although WWE does not overrate Noble, I think the board does... which is what the list was. A list of people overrated by the board.

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Guest saturnmark4life

Yeah, I hate RVD. But that's a bit old now. And it's not like he's getting pushed or anything.

 

I don't like matt hardy as a wrestler either, but at least he's developing some charisma. I see no evidence that funaki is a bad worker. He's only ever had 5 minute matches really, and some of them (eg with SATURN) were damn fine stuff. Not that I'm biased. Kurt Angle isn't perfect. His selling is, well, not really there but his transitions are incredible. Nigh on perfect, but not quite.

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Guest Brian

Noble in HWA was quite simply awesome. He had all the Dynamite evolution maneurisms and cool little selling that Benoit does, an awesome offense, great build out of the mat work, crisp transitions, excellent on the mat, good psychology, and great promo. I still fail to see how that makes him overrated. You get a shadow on him and he look s like Benoit in the ring, with a little different offense.

 

Half of his cruiserweight title run he got a decent push and in the latter half, he was totally ignored almost, striken from pay per views, and the title change was basically dismissed as nothing and since then he's been dead in the water. For investing a ton of personality into a character and then not following through, was big error on the WWE's part.

 

Agreed on Angle, that he has gaps in his work but is still awesome.

 

Hardy's a weird case. I've always held him as a good worker, still do. In a lot of those spot-fu matches he was literraly the glue. His OMEGA work was pretty stellar, but he was working with a lot of good fliers and could compensate in other areas.

 

Funaki's a great mat worker but in that British style. It's a matter of taste.

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Guest redneckBEBE

My original list was supposed to be wrestlers who are overrated by the Internet fans, not WWE.

 

I don't think Flair is overrated because everybody admits that he is a shell of what he used to be...including him.

 

I'll admit that maybe Noble was the least-deserving to make the list, but I think he's still a tad overrated.

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Guest redneckBEBE

Nope, can't say I have. I didn't even see much of his Jung Dragons stuff, I was too disgusted with WCW at the time.

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Booker T is the absolute most overrated worker in WWE today. People on this forum act like he's the friggin' savior of Raw when that's far from the truth. Offensive wise, look, there's a kick. And another kick. Look, he just did...another kick. Well, here's a......kneedrop. And now it's the....Scissors Kick. Want to talk about formulatic ? People hated on X-Pac because of his "educated feet", but Booker T just isn't much better. Mic wise, Booker T has given such gems as "You Damn Skippy, Hippy" and "Can you dig that, sucka ?" That's mic skills ?! Then I don't know what the hell Ric Flair has been doing for all these years if Booker T has good mic skills. Booker T is nothing more than a mediocre worker, yet everyone here calls for the immediate rise of status. Support-wise, RVD gets more cheers than Booker T nearly every night, so ya can't use that excuse. You can't spell "Booker T is overrated" without "Booker T"

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Guest redneckBEBE

Amen, amen, amen.

 

By the way, I think that Waltman is a much superior worker than Booker T, even when he's unmotivated. At least he doesn't need a ring general like Jericho to call all the spots.

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Guest Mulatto Heat

Thank you, Captain Obvious.

 

There's no doubt that he was Smarkzone. The Waltman love just now, and saying "Jericho led Booker by the hand" argument in the first or second pages gave it away. I recall him saying the exact same thing as HHHater (who I remember getting mad at the mere existence of Taker hate).

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Guest bob_barron

Do I get a prize for being the first to figure it out? :-)

 

I think Chavo is a wee bit overrated- I like him and all but I've noticed he's the worst of the SD! 6 in ring wise

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Guest The Hamburglar

People may have a point with Angle and his dodgy selling, but everything I've seen from Mitsuharu Misawa showcases selling as spotty as anything Angle's ever done, and Misawa is considered to be one of the greats. Misawa's Superman elbow comebacks are up there with Angle's "jump off the floor and do the top-rope suplex" in terms of really cool shit that just says "fuck the selling." Sometimes, selling can be a little over-hyped.

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Guest TheDevilsAdvocate

We're now talking about classic no-selling spots that are so cool they are acceptable.

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Guest RavishingRickRudo

I think Raven put it best about Jericho and Flair: "Jericho goes out and tries to carry a wrestler while wrestling his opponents style rather than the opponent having to wrestle his. Flairs 'longevity' isn't as impressive as he was wrestling the same match for like 10 years

 

Funaki vs. Saturn were some KILLER matches on Metal.

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Guest Spaceman Spiff
So look out boys and girls, cause Jamie and Nidia are about to be related.

I thought it was implied that they were already?

Whoe, hey, where'd you get that vibe? I've never once heard any announcer hint at that, nor any hints from Knoble and/or Nidia.

 

I think he (Knoble) would work better in a tag environment as shown by his overlooked match w/ Tajiri against Billy and Chuck

That was a very good match, and Billy put on his best performance in years in that match.

 

I think Chavo is a wee bit overrated- I like him and all but I've noticed he's the worst of the SD! 6 in ring wise

I'd agree w/ that. And is it just me, or has Eddy been a bit "off" lately in his ring work. Seems like he's been working a bit softer, and his forearm/punch has looked pretty crappy. Maybe it's just because he's not working w/ the SD6 anymore, and feels that he needs to tone himself down a bit for guys not used to working w/ him. Don't get me wrong, he's still one of the best workers in the WWE, but something just seems...off lately.

 

Re: Booker T

I love Book, and he's one of my faves, but I think people over-rate him as a worker, too. Yeah, his offense is a different (in a good way) from a lot of the workers on Raw, but he relies too heavily on the kicks. I don't think he could carry a lesser worker to save his life, and definitely won't be mistaken for a ring general by anybody. Decent at best worker, but has the charisma to make up for it.

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Guest BionicRedneck
I think Chavo is a wee bit overrated- I like him and all but I've noticed he's the worst of the SD! 6 in ring wise

Nah, Chavo smokes Edge.

 

Chavo is a much smarter worker who can work more styles than Edge. Also, Edge has the shittest moveset known to man.

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By the way, I think that Waltman is a much superior worker than Booker T, even when he's unmotivated. At least he doesn't need a ring general like Jericho to call all the spots.

Hey, a Waltman fan! Oh, wait, is that hated on this board? Uh..boooo!

 

In terms of matches, I'd say Sean's are better, but in terms of mic skills, Book is waaay ahead of Waltman.

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Guest Ram

Waltman can be way good, but only when he's not being a backstage prick and holding his weight in the ring.

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Guest Angle-plex

Book sucks on the mic though. At least Waltman's post Wrestlemania XIV promo was good.

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Guest bob_barron
I think Chavo is a wee bit overrated- I like him and all but I've noticed he's the worst of the SD! 6 in ring wise

Nah, Chavo smokes Edge.

 

Chavo is a much smarter worker who can work more styles than Edge. Also, Edge has the shittest moveset known to man.

I disagree- Chavo Guerrero rests too much.

 

I remember seeing Los Guerreros v. Angle/Benoit live and Chavo stuck out as a sore thumb-The match seemed to slow down whenever he was in the ring.

 

I enjoy Edge's work a lot more

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