Guest Nater Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Yeah, I thought it was odd that the list was comprised of peole who I dont often hear praise of for their steady ring work. A couple months/years ago some of those names would be on that list suitably, but most simply arent commended. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jobber of the Week Report post Posted February 16, 2003 They don't come to this board because they can't deal with all of the Benoit love/anyone over 6'5" hating. Here's our Top 10: 1. Booker T Group: Members Posts: 106 Member No.: 3138 Joined: 2-February 03 The insane postrate plus the baiting in the post leaves me with no choice but to assume this poster is SmarkZone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Not to mention the obvious irony of this entire thread being started by a Luger/Taker fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted February 16, 2003 not to mention that the list is shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Your Olympic Hero Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Wow what a convincing point. Booker T is one of the best workers on RAW. He gets the crowd into his matches and he has a vast array of different kicks and moves. Yeah... but his finisher is the axe kick. When was the last time that made contact? Or looked potentially painful? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Hey, he COULD go back to the Harlem Hangover... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Angle-plex Report post Posted February 16, 2003 I still remember one WCW PPV where La Parka was one of the 3 most over guys there. I don't think Booker is anything special. His ring work is average, but his promos are kind of boring. I know I'll get shit for this, but I never thought Booker had great promo skills. He has charisma, but not as much as some other guys on the roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheFranchise 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2003 No, i have to agree, and my not-so-fondness of GD made the last few months worse than ever... The only time i've ever liked Booker was in his fued with The Rock, and only because the promos were good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest saturnmark4life Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Booker t is far from a great worker technically, but I find him entertaining and he can work a better match than undertaker, hogan, steiner and triple h who are currently in top card roles. So I'm not gonna bitch if he ever gets pushed. I mean, I think RVD is horribly overrated, but at least he's something different. Regal used to be good but just has zero motivation and his feud with edge was painful to watch at times. If they want to get this bland team over he needs more promo time, that's all he has to offer these days. Same goes for christian. I was a big fan of both, but through being wasted and only being given 3 minutes a week if they are lucky, they don't give a crap anymore. I'm not saying they aren't to blame for bad matches, but it's not entirely their fault. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Angle-plex Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Booker t is far from a great worker technically, but I find him entertaining and he can work a better match than undertaker, hogan, steiner and triple h who are currently in top card roles. That's not really saying much. Hell, Test is a better worker than Hogan or Steiner are. Booker's mic skills aren't great though. I still wouldn't mind him getting a push, but only because it would be something new. I mean, I think RVD is horribly overrated, but at least he's something different How is RVD overrated? I haven't heard anyone on this board say he's a great worker. He's a bad worker as far as ring skills go, AND his mic skills are lacking, but I still find him more entertaining that Booker T. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Another problem that no one seemed to mention are that these people only get 5 minutes for a match. If they got MORE time, then I doubt they would be on the overrated list, which sucks btw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Booker ain't overrated. Test MUST be overrated. He is possibly the worst all-round performer the company has, yet people still talk the crap about him being "OK for a big guy". He isn't even OK for a big guy. He is the shits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Downhome Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Booker's flying forearm isn't meant to be a flying one so much as just one he puts a lot of force into. Once upon a time, it was a flying one. Even I really dislike it when he does the move now. I'd just assume he just stop using it period if he doesn't do it how he used to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted February 16, 2003 I'm not going through five pages to right up this short little point, but you guys are either severely ignorant or incredibly stupid and fail to understand what makes up a great worker if you think Jaime Knoble is overrated. Check out his HWA work. He's legitimately a top five worker and promo in the company. Who besides Angle can say that? Booker has a good set of moves that tend to mesh well and he has a basic match layout that tends to work very well. His tag work has and always will be excellent. He's far better than most people take him for. Shelton's awesome when he's being led (vs. Regal, tag), but I don't think anyone is really thinking too highly of Team Angle right now. After people went through the initial markiness, they've really mellowed out on them. I take it OMEGA has escaped you too. Kanyon's more of a moot point because people love him more for the character. Stratus is still overrated, but she's damn good for the Wee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheCynicalHateMongerFromHell Report post Posted February 16, 2003 1. Undertaker 2. Triple H 3. Jeff Hardy 4. Albert 5. Big Show 6. Kane 7. Jamal 8. Rosey 9. Scott Steiner 10. Tommy Dreamer Does this list make me the typical 'smark'? No, it makes me look at thing realistically. None of these guys can actually wrestle, they depend on their freakish size, hardcore tendencies, or shameless high spots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted February 16, 2003 No. Because Tommy Dreamer's proven to me over the course of six months where he didn't have to go into senseless weapon beating that he can be a smart worker when he wants to be, and a smart brawler at that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Albert shouldn't be on that list. His moveset is da bomb diggity. It's a shame he can't have a good match to save his life... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Booker T has the best roll up pin from the corner turnbuckle in WWE. The axe kick is uneventful now as the setup is so stupid, the cliche kick to the gut with the guy bent down then AHHHHHHH kick. I wish Booker T would change up his finishers, but having a midcard wrestler use more than one finisher on a regular basis would be unheard of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheCynicalHateMongerFromHell Report post Posted February 16, 2003 No. Because Tommy Dreamer's proven to me over the course of six months where he didn't have to go into senseless weapon beating that he can be a smart worker when he wants to be, and a smart brawler at that. Enlighten me, when has Dreamer showed anything positive in the ring? And don't include the IC and Hardcore title merge, that was more of Van Dam's old ECW style coming out than Dreamer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted February 16, 2003 I'm not going through five pages to right up this short little point, but you guys are either severely ignorant or incredibly stupid and fail to understand what makes up a great worker if you think Jaime Knoble is overrated. Check out his HWA work. He's legitimately a top five worker and promo in the company. Who besides Angle can say that? Booker has a good set of moves that tend to mesh well and he has a basic match layout that tends to work very well. His tag work has and always will be excellent. He's far better than most people take him for. Shelton's awesome when he's being led (vs. Regal, tag), but I don't think anyone is really thinking too highly of Team Angle right now. After people went through the initial markiness, they've really mellowed out on them. I take it OMEGA has escaped you too. Kanyon's more of a moot point because people love him more for the character. Stratus is still overrated, but she's damn good for the Wee. Everyone else was disagreeing with this guy on Noble. I agree with your list CynicalHateMonger. Except these guys aren't really praised to begin with so how can they be overrated? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted February 16, 2003 I can't see why Booker can't use the book-end now that the Rock is basically gone. Dreamer vs. Richards in a kendo stick match was really good. Dreamer was able to get the crowd on his side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Dreamer vs Stevie? but that too was sig-a-pore cane play Oh and Dreamer has taken alot of beatings from Team Triple Threat H, those 1 minute squashes by Batista made him look like a main eventer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Any of Dreamer's indy work after ECW folded. He wrestled a really smart, Puerto Rican brawl-around-the-arena matches with some good psychology and did a really nice job keeping the crowd involved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LooseCannon Report post Posted February 16, 2003 I agree with your list CynicalHateMonger. Except these guys aren't really praised to begin with so how can they be overrated? This comment makes me believe it's probably a lot easier to make a 10 most underrated than 10 most overrated. You find 10 guys that people on this board like who aren't actually that good. It's tough to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted February 16, 2003 I dug the Dreamer/Stevie match mainly because Dreamer was able to get the crowd into it. They were dead towards it at the start, but once dreamer got the shit kicked out of him but kept fighting back the crowd responded very well. They had that crowd OWNED in the last minute or two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted February 16, 2003 And don't include the IC and Hardcore title merge, that was more of Van Dam's old ECW style coming out than Dreamer. Spot-spot-stall-spot-stall-point-stall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mecha Mummy 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2003 I dug the Dreamer/Stevie match mainly because Dreamer was able to get the crowd into it. They were dead towards it at the start, but once dreamer got the shit kicked out of him but kept fighting back the crowd responded very well. They had that crowd OWNED in the last minute or two. I loved that match, but wouldn't that go under hardcore tendencies? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted February 16, 2003 It told an effective story, so I wouldn't put it under the 'hardcore for hardcore sakes' banner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lord of The Curry Report post Posted February 16, 2003 I honestly can't believe Ric Flair didn't make that list. I can and I can't at the same time. I can because they guy has put on some shitariffic matches in the last while, yet people will still kiss his ass and call him the best ever. I'm tempted to just go off on a rant about Flair now but I'll probably save it for a more appropriate time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted February 16, 2003 Flair aint overrated. Nobody praises his ring work anymore, and in his prime he was awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites