Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted February 20, 2003 1)Angle won't get demoted. It's pretty much well a benoit, angle, edge, brock Summer feud that lies in wait. WM isn't the last you will see of Brock vs. Angle. 2)Remember when Angle had that brief moment of face time a few months ago? Remember the crowd going NUTS for him? I think the WWE does so they are not afraid to make him look weak in this feud - because they will turn him face sometime this year and put the title on him again and all is right. 3)Anything can happen in this feud to turn the tide. An injury is the most likely thing to happen - a sort of payback from Angle/Brocks 'encounter' where Brock hurt Angles leg. Since they built Brock up this much, wouldn't it make him getting hurt mean a whole lot more - and therefore make Angle a whole lot more powerful? 4)A face got more offense on a heel than a heel on a face - is that what you are saying with your Jeff Hardy reference? 5)"it's just a matter of time" that a face gets a heel has been the calling card of nearly every single feud the WWF has done, really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 20, 2003 Because mentally, Angle, Team Angle, and Heyman should have all the cards. That's not true. Brock outsmarts them (And specifically Heyman) every week. 1)Angle won't get demoted How can a guy that is built as a total bitch stay in the mains in this day and age? 2)Remember when Angle had that brief moment of face time a few months ago? Remember the crowd going NUTS for him? I think the WWE does so they are not afraid to make him look weak in this feud - because they will turn him face sometime this year and put the title on him again and all is right. Oh, I haven't heard that theory yet. Oh, wait, I have. Someone used it to explain every stupid ass thing they did with Angle in 02. 4)A face got more offense on a heel than a heel on a face - is that what you are saying with your Jeff Hardy reference? No, that a jobber got more offense than the world champ. 5)"it's just a matter of time" that a face gets a heel has been the calling card of nearly every single feud the WWF has done, really. In the "It's only a matter of time until the heel gets what's coming to him." sense, not the "The only reason he's still champ is because the match hasn't happened" that they are doing now. 3)Anything can happen in this feud to turn the tide. Then happen already, damnit. I am NOT a patient person, especially when i can't even see the light at the end of the tunnel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted February 20, 2003 Does Brock do anything to 'outsmart' them though? It just looks like a whole bunch of brute strength. Anyways, they could foil Brock and say "it was our plan all along" and come out looking smarter. 1)People recognize how good Angle is in the ring. They respect his effort even though he looks like a goof - see Flair, Ric. (With a lot more ability) 2)Well it's true. Angle was over more than he ever was during that (small) period of time before he alligned with Paul Heyman. The next face title run for Angle will be big time. Besides, they haven't made Angle look like a total pussy - his matches with Benoit were balls-out enough to even the scale. 3) C'mon, which is it? In the WWE the face/heel dynamic is more important than the champ/challenger one. 4)Right now it seems that way - things can change. We all know Brock is going to win - it's just how will the rest of the feud and match go. 5)Timing is everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 20, 2003 Does Brock do anything to 'outsmart' them though? It just looks like a whole bunch of brute strength. Anyways, they could foil Brock and say "it was our plan all along" and come out looking smarter. Their plan to do what? Get their asses kicked? What in all hell does that accomplish? 1)People recognize how good Angle is in the ring. They respect his effort even though he looks like a goof - see Flair, Ric. (With a lot more ability) Who else besides Flair (Many, many years ago) has it worked for? Besides, they haven't made Angle look like a total pussy - his matches with Benoit were balls-out enough to even the scale That's my other HUGE problem with this feud. Brock can destroy Angle blindfolded with his eyes tied behind his back. Yet, Angle pretty much has everyone else's number. How does that make THEM look? Well it's true. Angle was over more than he ever was during that (small) period of time before he alligned with Paul Heyman. The next face title run for Angle will be big time. WHEN. C'mon, which is it? half empty. 5)Timing is everything. Which is why it's inexplicable that nothing happened this week or last week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted February 20, 2003 Give Brock a false sense of security. Have Benjamin and Haas tell angle all of brocks weaknesses having faught him on many occasions. Have Angle see how Brock handles two wrestlers - have him learn from it. Brock doesn't train for angle because he believes Angle is afraid of him, Angle trains for Brock and therefore has the upperhand. They could have an encounter where Angle just schools him and Brock is left bewildered. 1)HHH. He was doing hogpen matches and was a blueblood. He bounced back mainly due to his 2000 run where he was one of the best workers in the company. 2)I won't argue with you on that - "the fact that Benoit and the Guerreros have to build up the heels bothers me too." 3)When? Sept 20th 2003. 4)Naturally... Me, I am not an optimist or a pessimist - I generally base my thoughts around circumstance: How did the water in the cup arrive in that state? If it was poured half-way to the top then it is half-full (in the process of filling up the cup). If it was emptied half-way to the bottom then it is half-empty. 5)It's only inexplicable because you don't know what they are going to do. I figure the WWF has put in a lot of time developing this storyline so they know what they are doing and have planned it out. I generally don't give the WWF that much credit - but in this feud, with two golden boys, I will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted February 20, 2003 Give Brock a false sense of security. Have Benjamin and Haas tell angle all of brocks weaknesses having faught him on many occasions. Have Angle see how Brock handles two wrestlers - have him learn from it. Brock doesn't train for angle because he believes Angle is afraid of him, Angle trains for Brock and therefore has the upperhand. They could have an encounter where Angle just schools him and Brock is left bewildered. . Seems like a lot of trouble where maybe just hitting him with a chair would suffice. 1)HHH. He was doing hogpen matches and was a blueblood. He bounced back mainly due to his 2000 run where he was one of the best workers in the company. That's different that being built as the bumbling idiot world champion. It's only inexplicable because you don't know what they are going to do. I figure the WWF has put in a lot of time developing this storyline I say it's fifteen minutes before every show on a cocktail napkin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted February 20, 2003 Not with this angle. They have had Brock vs. Angle in their minds for a long time. They aren't booking on the fly with it. A lot of trouble - it's heyman, evil genius, he wants to play with Lesnar and Angle wants to prove himself. I'm not booking this, and it probably won't happen - all I am saying is that the possibility exists and therefore saying "this angle sucks, it's over, nothing good will happen, blah blah blah" isn't called for at the moment. Fans know that Angle is a great wrestler - they were very responsive to him in between Survivor Series and Armageddon (one of the most over guys in the company IIRC) so they will cheer him strong when he turns face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
