Who Trained John Zandig/CZW Crew?

[Guest thetrendsetter]

The Topic Title Says It.

[Guest Youth N Asia]

I'd really doubt if the guys like Zandig, Lobo, and WB had any official training.

[Guest Galactic Gigolo]

Zandig was around on the indy scene in the early 90's as an Ultimate Warrior gimmick. Probably had some kind of small training.

 

Lobo graduated from the CZW Wrestling School. First set of students, along with Pain and Blade I believe.

 

I haven't gotten the Wifebeater shoot interview, so I'm not sure about him.

[Guest Youth N Asia]

Gage was also in the batch with Blade and Pain...but I still don't know if I'd call what they did "proper training"

[Guest Galactic Gigolo]

Probably not, but then again, weren't Prohibiton and M-Dogg 20 backyard guys who never got any formal training?

[Guest Sandman9000]

I think M-Dogg said that he got a little after all the backyarding stuff. Not sure.

[Guest Sturgis]

I think Prohibition did have training since he is more technical than M-Dogg

[Guest CoreyLazarus416]

I don't care when it comes to Josh Pro, because the guy's got SKILLS. He could actually be the next Shane Helms if he works hard and ditches the hardcore crap (since Helms trained himself).

[Guest Youth N Asia]

I don't care when it comes to Josh Pro, because the guy's got SKILLS. He could actually be the next Shane Helms if he works hard and ditches the hardcore crap (since Helms trained himself).

I'm going to pretend that you didn't just put Shane Helms and Josh Prohibition in the same paragraph.

[Guest Dace59]

He did, and is right to do so.

 

Helms is a backyard right out of the OMEGA crew with the Hardys and is self trained.

 

The comparison is valid and true.

[The Dames 0]

Isn't it amazing that a guy can literally train himself and make it all the way to WWE with a character and get himself over? Granted, he may never be anything more than a midcard wrestler, but it's still just amazing.

 

...I wonder if they teach how to take lightbulb shots at the CZW training school.

 

Dames

[Guest Sturgis]

What do you need to know about taking a lightube shot? Just remember that pain is mental and not physical and you'll be alright. That and it hurts worse when you land on a broken one.

[Guest CoreyLazarus416]

You also probably need to know how to take a bump onto lightbulbs so that you don't land on major arteries (sharp broken glass + major arteries = BAD).

 

And yes, YNA, I did make the Pro/Helms comparison. As Dace pointed out, it's valid. I'm not saying he's as good as Helms was even three years ago, but he could be. Of course, Josh Pro is probably getting some major pointers and side-notes from trainers and trained workers right now, but I don't doubt the kid could be pretty good one day. Even one look at the spots on the BYW tapes kinda says this. Decent talker, too (he cuts a promo before a match against M-Dogg and Creeping Death on BYW vol. 2).

[Guest Youth N Asia]

My biggest problem with Jo Pro is that he walks to the ring like he's Stone Cold...I'm sorry, but I don't buy that with a jr heavyweight, that he's such a hardass and whatnot. Jr heavyweights from the indies have really bothered me more the past year then they ever use to.

[Guest CoreyLazarus416]

...because they have more confidence now, and actual characters instead of just "WE CAN FLY AND DO MOONSAULTS~!"?

[Guest Joe Mama]

to answer the question i think zandig was trained by johnny rodz (might have been someone else but i remembver reading that somewhere)

[Chunk 0]

He did, and is right to do so.

 

Helms is a backyard right out of the OMEGA crew with the Hardys and is self trained.

 

The comparison is valid and true.

Due to the fact that I was still dumb to the world outside WWE when OMEGA was around, can someone tell me a little more about it.

 

Sure, I know it was run by the hardys and had Shannon more and shane helms in it, but what other guys did they have etc?

 

I think I have seen a match from OMEGA with Jeff (Willow the wisp) vs Shannon moore, but thats about all I have seen. I also know that the hardys has their own backyard trampoleen fed. What connection does that have with OMEGA, (if any).

 

Cheers,

 

ChUnK!

[Guest Jonathan Barber]

Backyarders who I don't know if they got any training: Ruckus, Frazier

Zandig/CZW Academy: Lobo, Pain, Blade, Gage

Dahmer: Cash, GQ, Tai Smiley, Merc, Sabian, Stefan Perez, Jude

Greg Matthews: Tough Enough

Mondo: Dean Malenko's school (yup, shitty wrestler from one of the greatest wrestler's school)

Flash and Hatred are 12 year veterans

M-Dogg & Josh P.: CAPW Training School; both did backyard wrestling before that, though

Wifebeater: Pitbull 1 (Anthony Durante; no wonder Wifebeater sucks so badly)

 

Formers:

 

SAT/Red: Mikey Whipwreck

[Guest Jonathan Barber]

Oh, and Zandig was trained by Larry Sharpe, NOT Johnny Rodz.

[Guest j.o.b. squad]

Backyarders who I don't know if they got any training: Ruckus, Frazier

Zandig/CZW Academy: Lobo, Pain, Blade, Gage

Dahmer: Cash, GQ, Tai Smiley, Merc, Sabian, Stefan Perez, Jude

Greg Matthews: Tough Enough

Mondo: Dean Malenko's school (yup, shitty wrestler from one of the greatest wrestler's school)

Flash and Hatred are 12 year veterans

M-Dogg & Josh P.: CAPW Training School; both did backyard wrestling before that, though

Wifebeater: Pitbull 1 (Anthony Durante; no wonder Wifebeater sucks so badly)

 

Formers:

 

SAT/Red: Mikey Whipwreck

 

few corections mondo was trained at al snow's brainbusters not stinko malenkos

 

frasier was trained by ruckus

 

i dont think hatred is a 12 year vet

 

rebel has been wrestling 14years+

 

merc sabain and smiley were not trained by dahmer

 

ian knoxx was trained by dahmer

[Guest Youth N Asia]

I know Flash has been around for 10+, but Hatred????? Where was he hiding this whole time then? Alaska Championship Wrestling? I highly doubt he's near the 10 year marker.

[Guest Jonathan Barber]

It's possible I'm wrong, but I've read somewhere that Hatred is a 14 year veteran. He is pretty young, though, so he would've had to start early. I don't know. I guess I'm wrong.

 

Messiah: Carlito Montana, formerly of XPW.

 

Sorry, I don't know why I wrote Malenko. I SWEAR I meant to write Al Snow's school. Either way, I was thinking of Snow when I was writing in it (I'm a big Snow mark ). Stupid on my part.