Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted March 23, 2003 I honestly don't know what the fuck this all means but I'll post it anyway. wizardman909 (8:33:03 PM): HI Nevermortal (8:33:07 PM): HI wizardman909 (8:33:10 PM): Do you acknowledge prime? wizardman909 (8:33:12 PM): Yes or no wizardman909 (8:33:15 PM): 28-32 is prime, 33+ you decline Nevermortal (8:33:19 PM): Why the hell not.... Yes wizardman909 (8:33:22 PM): good job wizardman909 (8:33:23 PM): you passed wizardman909 (8:33:24 PM): now Nevermortal (8:33:26 PM): Joy. wizardman909 (8:33:28 PM): IM TheBadKnight wizardman909 (8:33:31 PM): *TheBardKnight wizardman909 (8:33:38 PM): tell him to IM me and to acknowledge prime wizardman909 (8:33:45 PM): he thinks by him blocking me, i'll go away wizardman909 (8:33:50 PM): but i have hundreds of AIM names wizardman909 (8:33:54 PM): he must acknowledge prime wizardman909 (8:33:56 PM): or he must get a new screenname wizardman909 (8:33:58 PM): ok? wizardman909 (8:34:07 PM): IM him that, and tell him to IM my Lkdg32 screenname Nevermortal (8:34:09 PM): Ok Nevermortal (8:34:53 PM): Well, I IM'd him. wizardman909 (8:36:01 PM): what did he say? Nevermortal (8:36:44 PM): The Bard Knight (8:35:15 PM): Nevermortal would eat you alive. The Bard Knight (8:36:36 PM): You don't deserve to rip off his SN. The Bard Knight (8:36:39 PM): Prime wizardman909 (8:37:01 PM): lol wizardman909 (8:37:02 PM): he is stupid Nevermortal (8:37:06 PM): What is this about wizardman909 (8:37:12 PM): This is about prime wizardman909 (8:37:16 PM): I told you wizardman909 (8:37:22 PM): I said the same thing to him that i said to you wizardman909 (8:37:25 PM): Do you acknowledge prime? wizardman909 (8:37:27 PM): He ignored me wizardman909 (8:37:31 PM): so I continue to IM him wizardman909 (8:37:33 PM): he has two choics wizardman909 (8:37:36 PM): *choices wizardman909 (8:37:38 PM): to acknowledge prime Nevermortal (8:37:38 PM): Why am I the middleman in this sandwich of insanity wizardman909 (8:37:41 PM): or to get a new screenname wizardman909 (8:37:58 PM): he is a stupid person, but maybe he will listen to you wizardman909 (8:38:00 PM): since he might know you Nevermortal (8:38:07 PM): From where? wizardman909 (8:38:10 PM): TSM Nevermortal (8:38:13 PM): Ah. wizardman909 (8:38:26 PM): So are you going to "eat me alive"? Nevermortal (8:38:31 PM): No. wizardman909 (8:38:32 PM): that is what he said that you would do for me wizardman909 (8:38:34 PM): *to me wizardman909 (8:38:34 PM): ok Nevermortal (8:38:37 PM): I've ate dinner. Nevermortal (8:39:01 PM): I gotta go. wizardman909 (8:39:05 PM): ok wizardman909 (8:39:07 PM): spread the prime concept wizardman909 (8:39:09 PM): to whoever you can Nevermortal (8:39:11 PM): Keep fighting the good fight. wizardman909 (8:39:11 PM): it is important wizardman909 (8:39:14 PM): and it must be known by all wizardman909 (8:39:15 PM): yep wizardman909 (8:39:17 PM): i will wizardman909 (8:39:21 PM): but i wish for more to fight with me wizardman909 (8:39:25 PM): so it will be spread faster Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted March 23, 2003 lmao. you've met LLdg36. He will now bother you until you die or move off to be a lumberjack. have fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AlwaysPissedOff Report post Posted March 23, 2003 I fucking HATE that guy and almost thought he had come back somehow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted March 23, 2003 WHY ME? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted March 23, 2003 He keeps trying to IM me, but I have my AIM set so those not on my Buddy List must get IM approval from me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted March 23, 2003 he bothers everyone. he insulted Molestomps dead mother repeatedly. It's probably gheyme or someone equaly lame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted March 23, 2003 Real piece of shit, best just to block him and wait for him to forget about you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted March 23, 2003 Yeah I just keep blocking every new name that pops up. He thinks it's annoying to me I guess. I would say he tried to pit me (Bard Knight) against Nevermortal there or something, but I'm hesitant to give him that much credit. if he reads this: Prime sucks and you're a bitch. Die tryin'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted March 23, 2003 Well he's left me alone since our intial conversation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted March 23, 2003 I'll acknowledge something: Prime is ghey. And so is the guy that pushes it. I hope he reads this. Yes, I do. Go ahead and respond here. A message board is the perfect place to spread your numerical crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted March 23, 2003 COME ON PRIME. POST. DO IT. NOW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted March 23, 2003 subzerox41 (9:44:29 PM): Can you please spread prime on TSM? subzerox41 (9:44:32 PM): in that acknowledge prime thread subzerox41 (9:44:43 PM): more people need to spread prime Nevermortal (9:44:50 PM): Prime will be spread. subzerox41 (9:44:50 PM): i've already talked about it on TSM subzerox41 (9:44:52 PM): many times subzerox41 (9:44:57 PM): like the Chris Jericho fears November 9 thread subzerox41 (9:45:02 PM): on the WWE forum a couple of weeks ago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted March 23, 2003 Prime is ghey............ +1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted March 23, 2003 Cockcheese is IMing me again...probably reading this thread now slapping his little boner around to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted March 23, 2003 subzerox41 (9:47:16 PM): go ahead and spread prime subzerox41 (9:48:23 PM): 28-32 is prime, 33+ you decline, a very simple and logical concept subzerox41 (9:48:27 PM): maybe TOO logical subzerox41 (9:48:30 PM): its like i'm tommy dreamer subzerox41 (9:48:37 PM): wwe hated tommy dreamer for being too logical subzerox41 (9:48:39 PM): so they fired him subzerox41 (9:48:46 PM): from booker subzerox41 (9:48:54 PM): 28-32 is prime, 33+ you decline subzerox41 (9:48:57 PM): that makes just TOO MUCH SENSE subzerox41 (9:48:59 PM): people can't take it subzerox41 (9:49:03 PM): so its all "Fuck the prime spreader" subzerox41 (9:49:10 PM): people can't stand logic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted March 23, 2003 You know this guy's AIM buddy list looks like. Buddies (0/0) Family (1/1) Smark Assholes (28/154) Who pissed this guy off in the first place Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted March 23, 2003 I think he should stop being a little coward and post here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted March 23, 2003 He can't post here. He's banned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted March 23, 2003 I normally don't talk this way...but kid's a fag and should have to put up with dumb shit as well subzerox41: Hi, can I ask you a question? Youth N Asia182: as long as it doesn't have to do with prime numbers subzerox41: Do you acknowledge prime? subzerox41: Yes or no subzerox41: If yes, you will be left alone subzerox41: just like Nevermortal Youth N Asia182: No, I don't, you predictable fuck subzerox41: Spiderpoet didn't acknowledge prime subzerox41: thus he continues to get IMed subzerox41: why not? Youth N Asia182: Can I can subzerox41: huh? subzerox41: can i can? Youth N Asia182: sure, that too subzerox41: 28-32 is prime, 33+ you decline subzerox41: I will bother you from now on subzerox41: until you acknowledge prime Youth N Asia182: I know the gimmick. I disagree subzerox41: or if you want, get a new screenname subzerox41: its not a gimmick subzerox41: 28-32 IS prime, 33+ you decline subzerox41: its not something i made up subzerox41: its something based on common sense subzerox41: Why do you disagree? Youth N Asia182: Cause I can subzerox41: You can, but you will continue to get IMed subzerox41: every time you are on subzerox41: it will get very annoying subzerox41: or subzerox41: you can get a new screenname Youth N Asia182: Yuh huh...you being the master of disguise and all with all your names subzerox41: not about disguise subzerox41: its about blocking that doesn't work subzerox41: if you block me subzerox41: i go on my other screennames Youth N Asia182: I don't care, kid subzerox41: my HUNDRED other AIM names subzerox41: it gets annoying subzerox41: just acknowledge prime Youth N Asia182: get a fuckin hobby already subzerox41: its based on common sense subzerox41: this is my hobby Youth N Asia182: Masturbate...do something productive subzerox41: this is more productive than anything subzerox41: i masturbate to prime sometimes subzerox41: prime is so great subzerox41: it is when you peak Youth N Asia182: I'm not shocked subzerox41: when you are at your best subzerox41: 28-32 is prime subzerox41: 33+ you decline Youth N Asia182: 34, you're an ass subzerox41: why would you want to fuck a has been when you can fuck a prime? subzerox41: 34, you are old subzerox41: Booker T is OLD subzerox41: turns 38 on May 1 subzerox41: needs to retire soon Youth N Asia182: Good for him subzerox41: bad for him actually subzerox41: he is a has been subzerox41: just acknowledge prime subzerox41: nevermortal acknowledged prime subzerox41: downhome acknowledged prime subzerox41: dames acknowledged prime subzerox41: molestomp acknowledged prime subzerox41: kotzenjunge acknowledged prime subzerox41: bob barron acknowledged prime subzerox41: i'm waiting for you to acknowledge prime subzerox41: and spider poet to acknowledge prime subzerox41: i'm waiting subzerox41: come on subzerox41: its not hard Youth N Asia182: First you have to acknowledge my theory that you have a 2 1/2 full on boner subzerox41: just say "28-32 is prime, 33+ you decline, that is true" Youth N Asia182: Ya know what I mean champ :-) subzerox41: 28-32 is prime, 33+ you decline it not MY theory subzerox41: it is THE prime theory Youth N Asia182: Well answer mine first...you packing less then 3 inches mate? Youth N Asia182: You can tell me subzerox41: i have a vagina subzerox41: i'm a girl Youth N Asia182: Wow...took you a while to come back with that one Youth N Asia182: Had to think it over, eh? You and your little puddly self Youth N Asia182: What's with the silence? You mom come in the room forcing you to minimize the screen? subzerox41: i'm waiting for you to acknowledge prime Youth N Asia182: Acknowledge your penis size subzerox41: my vagina size you mean subzerox41: well it is very loose subzerox41: i let any prime man do me subzerox41: doesn't matter who they are subzerox41: if they are 28-32 its all good Youth N Asia182: You might have one of those too...but I know you have a small pecker in there somewhere subzerox41: but no youths or has beens Youth N Asia182: BB King...not a has been...had his best years after 33 Youth N Asia182: Now back to your penis subzerox41: BB King? subzerox41: Who is that again? subzerox41: heard the name subzerox41: but he isn't a big enough name for me to remember who he is Youth N Asia182: Penis? Youth N Asia182: I'm willing to give you 3 inches...but I can't believe anymore then that Youth N Asia182: Tell me subzerox41: 0 inches subzerox41: i don't have one Youth N Asia182: Come on now...it may be just a nubble...but something's there subzerox41: Penis size has nothing to do with prime subzerox41: What I do know is that my vagina will get better subzerox41: I am subzerox41: 19 right now subzerox41: so in 9 years subzerox41: it will be better than ever subzerox41: so will your penis subzerox41: when it reaches its prime Youth N Asia182: What about yours though? subzerox41: Size has nothing to do with prime subzerox41: I'm only interested in talking prime subzerox41: If you don't want to subzerox41: I will continue to subzerox41: Whenever I want to subzerox41: you MUST acknowledge prime Youth N Asia182: I'm talking size...let's talk about what I wanna talk about subzerox41: if you acknowledge prime subzerox41: i will talk about it Youth N Asia182: gotta pee...brb sport Youth N Asia182: back...and I bet my willy is bigger then yours subzerox41: acknowledge prime and then we can talk about it Youth N Asia182: You first subzerox41: nope subzerox41: you must acknowledge it subzerox41: then i will discuss it subzerox41: that is the way it goes Youth N Asia182: Who pissed you off on the smark board to begin with? subzerox41: nobody subzerox41: Nobody had a problem with prime subzerox41: except 1 person subzerox41: AlwaysPissedOff subzerox41: because he is always pissed off Youth N Asia182: Good man subzerox41: get it? subzerox41: so he told dames subzerox41: and dames banned me subzerox41: brb Youth N Asia182: Shucks Youth N Asia182: Hurry back subzerox41: ok i'm back subzerox41: now acknowledge prime Youth N Asia182: Penis first subzerox41: nope Youth N Asia182: How much heat ya packin? subzerox41: you must acknowledge prime subzerox41: then i will talk about penises Youth N Asia182: You first subzerox41: say that alwayspissedoff pissed me off first subzerox41: because he is a fucking idiot subzerox41: and he told dames about me subzerox41: and dames banned me subzerox41: say that on the thread subzerox41: and dames talked about me to others subzerox41: and thus they started to hate me Youth N Asia182: You probably had it coming you know subzerox41: nope subzerox41: i just talked about prime subzerox41: i made fun of molestomp's mom later subzerox41: after the prime stuff started subzerox41: after i was hated Youth N Asia182: Yeah, that was a fuckin class act huh subzerox41: it was subzerox41: he deserved it subzerox41: brb Youth N Asia182: YOU SICK FUCK! I know why you're pulling this brb shit? Youth N Asia182: You're jerking off to my text! Youth N Asia182: You sick fuck! subzerox41: no i'm jerking off to prime Youth N Asia182: I'm flattered and all...but I ain't a fag, amigo Youth N Asia182: Take that shit to the YMCA Youth N Asia182: Fuckin flamer Youth N Asia182: Where'd you go, fruit loops? subzerox41: told you Youth N Asia182: off biting big brother's boner? Youth N Asia182: Tell me about your weiner and I'll go along with you gay little prime dilly Youth N Asia182: Cause I know you have it in hand now? Youth N Asia182: Fine...no deal then subzerox41: the deal was you acknowledge prime FIRST subzerox41: then i talk about penises subzerox41: that was the deal Youth N Asia182: I didn't make a deal subzerox41: there is no other deal Youth N Asia182: Dumbass subzerox41: i made the deal Youth N Asia182: But I didn't shake on it Youth N Asia182: So HA! Youth N Asia182: get daddy's dick outta your face and pay attention Youth N Asia182: I'm gonna block you know...I know you'll come back with a predictable new name any minute now, cause you have even less to do then I Youth N Asia182: Fag Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted March 23, 2003 I saw the anti-Booker T comment. ITS SMARKZONE~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted March 23, 2003 subzerox41 (10:23:11 PM): I'm not smarkzone subzerox41 (10:23:24 PM): Booker T just happens to have a birthday soon subzerox41 (10:23:29 PM): so I mentioned that he turns 38 subzerox41 (10:23:31 PM): that is OLD Nevermortal (10:23:43 PM): That's not that old. subzerox41 (10:23:45 PM): Lance Storm turns 34 on April 3 subzerox41 (10:23:46 PM): it is Nevermortal (10:23:48 PM): In wrestling, yes Nevermortal (10:23:52 PM): But in real life, no subzerox41 (10:23:54 PM): 33+ you decline subzerox41 (10:23:58 PM): you slow down subzerox41 (10:23:59 PM): in everything subzerox41 (10:24:05 PM): in sports it stands out the most subzerox41 (10:24:10 PM): because it is the most physically demanding subzerox41 (10:24:15 PM): you can see a has been very easily subzerox41 (10:24:18 PM): just look at the best ever subzerox41 (10:24:19 PM): Michael Jordan subzerox41 (10:24:27 PM): his past primeness really stands out Nevermortal (10:24:40 PM): Would you say Rico is in his prime, considering he got his start in wrestling after 33? subzerox41 (10:24:49 PM): brb subzerox41 (10:29:40 PM): ok subzerox41 (10:29:43 PM): Rico is past his prime Nevermortal (10:29:49 PM): In life subzerox41 (10:29:52 PM): yes Nevermortal (10:29:52 PM): But not in wrestling Nevermortal (10:30:03 PM): You have to apply a new concept of prime to him subzerox41 (10:30:12 PM): correct, because you need a few years of experience subzerox41 (10:30:15 PM): like DDP subzerox41 (10:30:16 PM): and Angle subzerox41 (10:30:21 PM): DDP started past his prime Nevermortal (10:30:28 PM): So DDP, Angle, and Rico are the defyers of the Prime subzerox41 (10:30:29 PM): you need to have a few years of experience subzerox41 (10:30:32 PM): no subzerox41 (10:30:33 PM): they started late Nevermortal (10:30:40 PM): DEFYERS OF THE PRIME...... subzerox41 (10:30:42 PM): DDP started wrestling regularly in 1995 subzerox41 (10:30:48 PM): he peaked in 1998 subzerox41 (10:30:50 PM): 1999+ he declined subzerox41 (10:30:56 PM): he is already past his prime Nevermortal (10:30:57 PM): What if I started wrestling when I was 10 Nevermortal (10:31:04 PM): When would my prime be subzerox41 (10:31:05 PM): but his wrestling past primeness started in 1999 subzerox41 (10:31:11 PM): 28-32 subzerox41 (10:31:26 PM): Unless you get a major injury, a major disease, or do drugs Nevermortal (10:31:36 PM): What if one of my legs gets cut off subzerox41 (10:31:39 PM): right Nevermortal (10:31:39 PM): Yet I continue to wrestle subzerox41 (10:31:41 PM): that is a major injury subzerox41 (10:31:45 PM): you would likely be worse Nevermortal (10:32:13 PM): Can you have shades of prime past your prime, ala Keiji Mutoh? subzerox41 (10:32:29 PM): no subzerox41 (10:32:41 PM): 33+ you decline subzerox41 (10:32:44 PM): look at Curt Hennig subzerox41 (10:32:51 PM): when his back was fine and he came back in 1992 subzerox41 (10:32:59 PM): from late 1992 to late 1993 he was much worse than from 1987-1991 subzerox41 (10:33:03 PM): 1987-1991 he was 28-32 subzerox41 (10:33:12 PM): and he was also much worse from 1997 to his death subzerox41 (10:33:22 PM): died of a past prime attack likely subzerox41 (10:33:26 PM): that is my guess subzerox41 (10:33:29 PM): hennig didn't age well subzerox41 (10:33:32 PM): something was up Nevermortal (10:33:36 PM): What if you've sucked consistently for years subzerox41 (10:33:36 PM): his hair never got gray Nevermortal (10:33:39 PM): And did not have a prime subzerox41 (10:33:45 PM): everyone has a prime subzerox41 (10:33:47 PM): they just suck less in it subzerox41 (10:33:52 PM): like A-Train subzerox41 (10:33:55 PM): A-Train is in his prime now subzerox41 (10:33:55 PM): 28 subzerox41 (10:34:03 PM): most people think he is pretty sucky subzerox41 (10:34:39 PM): i'm not smarkzone, ok? say i'm not on the thread on TSM subzerox41 (10:34:58 PM): I am just a guy who grasps the simple and logical prime concept subzerox41 (10:35:03 PM): and who wants to spread it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kotzenjunge Report post Posted March 23, 2003 Watch, this little dick will IM me just as I'm about to go out. WATCH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted March 23, 2003 Some people are just poster children for abortions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted March 23, 2003 Ha I dealt with him once, blocked him and never heard from him again. I got two words for you with discussion to this whole "prime" theory.. RIC FLAIR. Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest J*ingus Report post Posted March 23, 2003 Dammit, Vitamin, you stole the words right outta my mouth. Flair's best matches of all time (and arguably the best matches of all time, period) came way after that 33-year deadline. Does anyone have any clue why this retarded obsessive asshole is so consumed with spreading his dumbass theory to everyone on this board, and continually (illegally) harassing those who don't agree? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted March 23, 2003 In the thread he started, he commbatted Ric Flair by saying in his prime Flair only worked tag matches. Is there anyway to report him to AOL to get him banned or something? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted March 24, 2003 I knew it, I asked for it... Lkdg32: hi TsunamiWaveChain: no Lkdg32: yes Lkdg32: Do you acknowledge prime? Lkdg32: Yes or no? TsunamiWaveChain: no Lkdg32: Why not? TsunamiWaveChain: because TsunamiWaveChain: I feel like pissing you off Lkdg32: Why? TsunamiWaveChain: it amuses me Lkdg32: When Flair was 28-32, in the late 70s and early 80s, he was involved in mostly tag matches. The people he wrestled against and with sucked compared to the ones he worked with in the late 80s. Lkdg32: Flair was better in his prime than past his prime in the late 80s TsunamiWaveChain: Flair-Steamboat? TsunamiWaveChain: that was in 89 Lkdg32: yes Lkdg32: What is your point? TsunamiWaveChain: widely considered among the best matches of all time TsunamiWaveChain: not to mention all of Flair's feuds with Sting, the 4 Horsemen, all that was after the so-called "prime" Lkdg32: Because Steamboat is much better than the guys he worked with in the late 70s and early 80s Lkdg32: Flair can have good matches with crappy guys, but not great ones TsunamiWaveChain: that doesnt really make sense Lkdg32: Which is why his match with El Gigante at a house show in 1991 wasn't 5 stars or 4.5 stars, it was just 3 stars Lkdg32: in his prime, flair wrestled with crappy guys, thus didn't have excellent matches Lkdg32: that makes sense Lkdg32: he had good matches Lkdg32: but nothing special Lkdg32: When Flair wrestled much better people in the late 80s, he had much better matches Lkdg32: Imagine a series of Flair-Steamboat matches from 1981 Lkdg32: that would be awesome Lkdg32: both in their primes TsunamiWaveChain: but they still had an equally awesome match in 89, far past their prime Lkdg32: Steamboat was 36, he was past his prime but not FAR past his prime Lkdg32: at 40 (Flair), that would be far past your prime Lkdg32: they never had a series of matches in 1981 unfortunately Lkdg32: Flair was worse in 1989 than in 1981 TsunamiWaveChain: but he was still past his prime Lkdg32: right TsunamiWaveChain: and still in the 90's he had some awesome matches with Sting TsunamiWaveChain: not to mention most if not all of the 4 Horsemen stuff was all after Flair's prime Lkdg32: 33+ you decline, you can still be good but never as good as in your prime Lkdg32: Flair peaked from 1977-1981 Lkdg32: Steamboat peaked from 1981-1985 Lkdg32: Flair gradually declined at a slow pace Lkdg32: Flair got really worse in 1995 because he didn't try as hard Lkdg32: and in 2002 Lkdg32: because he didn't care TsunamiWaveChain: he still had good matches Lkdg32: flair hasn't had a great match since 1994 TsunamiWaveChain: many times what makes a good wrestler isn't his athletic ability, but his knowledge of psychology, moveset, etc. which all compeltely defies the whole concept of prime Lkdg32: you have better workrate in your prime than past your prime Lkdg32: Flair's "Flair flip" for instance TsunamiWaveChain: not necessarily Lkdg32: he can rarely do it right Lkdg32: when he was younger he always did it right TsunamiWaveChain: that may be because of how much he has wrestled, not necessarily his age Lkdg32: Age, not how much he wrestled Lkdg32: Flair didn't wrestle a style where he gets hurt Lkdg32: he was careful in the ring not to hurt his back TsunamiWaveChain: but taking bumps time after time again, doing the flair flop over and over takes a toll on your body TsunamiWaveChain: if you maintain your body in good physical shape, it doesn't matter how old you are Lkdg32: It does, look at Michael Jordan Lkdg32: he was stronger than ever this season Lkdg32: more muscle mass Lkdg32: but this is his worst season ever Lkdg32: because he is PAST HIS PRIME Lkdg32: 33+ you decline TsunamiWaveChain: you can't compare wrestling to basketball Lkdg32: 1991-1993, he peaked, 1996-1998 he was still the best, but much worse than 1991-1993 Lkdg32: 2001-2003 he is no longer the best, just a good palyer Lkdg32: *player TsunamiWaveChain: because wrestling is choreographed TsunamiWaveChain: the more experienced you are, the better your ring knowledge Lkdg32: But 33+ your ability declines Lkdg32: Like Misawa Lkdg32: He peaked from 1991-1995 Lkdg32: or Hennig Lkdg32: he peaked from 1987-1991, from 28-32 TsunamiWaveChain: what about Steve Austin? Lkdg32: he peaked from 1993-1997 TsunamiWaveChain: two neck injuries/surgeries and he still was awesome in 2002 TsunamiWaveChain: errr 2001 Lkdg32: he sucked in 2002 TsunamiWaveChain: I meant to say 2001 Lkdg32: he was better in 1993-1997 than in 2001 Lkdg32: 2001 was his next best after 1993-1997 because of injuries TsunamiWaveChain: and if it wasn't for those injuries he could have been even better TsunamiWaveChain: you must acknowledge the concept of ring knowledge Lkdg32: Austin wasn't better in 2001 than in 1997 Lkdg32: or 1996 Lkdg32: or 1995 TsunamiWaveChain: physical ability leads to improved workrate, but even good workrate doesn't lead to great matches..ring knowledge does Lkdg32: or 1994 Lkdg32: or 1993 TsunamiWaveChain: you are so fixated on the prim concept you refuse to give it up TsunamiWaveChain: *prime Lkdg32: that is when you are at your best in everything except general knowledge and experience TsunamiWaveChain: you can't admit your theory/concept has fault in it Lkdg32: it has no fault Lkdg32: 28-32 you peak TsunamiWaveChain: when it comes to wrestling, yes it does TsunamiWaveChain: and there is even proof that your theory is flawed in the football world Lkdg32: to everything Lkdg32: 28-32 is prime Lkdg32: its not Lkdg32: 28-32 is prime ALWAYS exceptions include MAJOR INJURIES Lkdg32: there are exceptions to the prime theory obviously Lkdg32: major injuries, a major disease, drugs, etc TsunamiWaveChain: physical prime for most people is actually in their early-mid 20's Lkdg32: but that happens only the minority of the time Lkdg32: untrue Lkdg32: it is 28-32 TsunamiWaveChain: look at Jerry Rice, one of his most productive and contributive seasons came at 40, and still plays at a Pro Bowl level Lkdg32: that is why nba players peak then Lkdg32: they are at their best ability wise 28-32 Lkdg32: not true Lkdg32: he is still good Lkdg32: but not as good as he was in the early 90s TsunamiWaveChain: he's just as good if not better Lkdg32: not true TsunamiWaveChain: he had physical ability on his side then, but mentally his veteran status keeps him in the game sicne his physical ability left TsunamiWaveChain: he was much better in the 80's than he was in the early 90's TsunamiWaveChain: then he started to get better again Lkdg32: he peaked from 28-32 Lkdg32: unless he had major injuries Lkdg32: i don't know about his career, but that is how it works, 28-32 you peak unless of one of those exceptions TsunamiWaveChain: he didn't have any major injuries actually TsunamiWaveChain: which has contributed to his longevity Lkdg32: then he peaked from 28-32 Lkdg32: look up his stats Lkdg32: he peaked from 28-32, that is how it works TsunamiWaveChain: he didn't TsunamiWaveChain: I can show you an itneresting article in how your theory is flawed, supported by statistics and everything Lkdg32: ok TsunamiWaveChain: prime is actually earlier and even then it doesn't matter to some because a lot of times veterans learn tricks of the trade in which they can make up for physical ability TsunamiWaveChain: look at Reggie White for example as well Lkdg32: he peaked from 28-32 TsunamiWaveChain: but even then I can't even compare football to wrestling because wrestling doesn't involve as much physic al ability as it does physical punishment Lkdg32: prime is 28-32 Lkdg32: name anyone who didn't peak from 28-32 Lkdg32: that was healthy Lkdg32: didn't do drugs Lkdg32: no diseases Lkdg32: etc Lkdg32: and back it up with stats Lkdg32: name 1 person TsunamiWaveChain: hang on TsunamiWaveChain: k TsunamiWaveChain: Ric Flair Lkdg32: we already went over this Lkdg32: He wrestled with crappy people in his prime Lkdg32: thus he didn't have excellent matches Lkdg32: when he was past his prime, he got much better people to work with TsunamiWaveChain: that's not an excuse Lkdg32: Workrate wise, Flair was slightly worse in 1989 than in 1981 Lkdg32: But he had much better opponents Lkdg32: It is TsunamiWaveChain: nope Lkdg32: If you have an A+ wrestler vs a C- wrestler, you won't get a 5 star match likely Lkdg32: Flair was A+ in the early 80s Lkdg32: and A in the late 80s TsunamiWaveChain: and he was still A+ afterwards Lkdg32: Steamboat was A in the late 80s Lkdg32: Thus they had A matches Lkdg32: not he, the matches Lkdg32: in the late 80s Lkdg32: because of his opponents Lkdg32: Flair was A+ in the early 80s, wrestled with mostly D+ and C- guys Lkdg32: so the matches were in the B, B- level Lkdg32: just good, nothing special TsunamiWaveChain: I'm curious about something Lkdg32: what? TsunamiWaveChain: Why are you so consumed with spreading your theory to everyone on my board, and continually (illegally) harassing those who don't agree? Lkdg32: Its not illegal. Its like a friend trying to stop their friend from contiuing to do drugs. Lkdg32: The friend says "NO" Lkdg32: i mean Lkdg32: the one who is using drugs says "NO" Lkdg32: but the friend keeps on persisting Lkdg32: nothing wrong w/ith that Lkdg32: *with Lkdg32: The prime concept is 100% valid Lkdg32: Therefore people MUST accept it Lkdg32: If its proven to be invalid, then people don't have to accept it TsunamiWaveChain: I'm not questioning the legality of your idiocy, I'm questioning the purpose of it Lkdg32: To inform people about prime TsunamiWaveChain: and what if we don't wish to hear it? Lkdg32: Very important concept Lkdg32: That everyone should know Lkdg32: You must Lkdg32: Since it is a valid and very important concept Lkdg32: You have to acknowledge it, or get a new screenname TsunamiWaveChain: I completely disagree with you, and it is pointless to debate with you because you are completely unwilling to give up any ground on the matter whatsoever TsunamiWaveChain: why is it so important? Lkdg32: You haven't mentioned a single person whose prime is not 28-32 Lkdg32: You mentioned Flair, I proved you wrong TsunamiWaveChain: I mentioned several people Lkdg32: name someone TsunamiWaveChain: you proved nothing Lkdg32: prove ME wrong Lkdg32: back it up with stats TsunamiWaveChain: I have no reason, I know I'm right Lkdg32: You aren't TsunamiWaveChain: I don't need to waste my time with debating it Lkdg32: If you look at the stats, you will see Jerry Rice peaked from 28-32 TsunamiWaveChain: nope Lkdg32: Yep TsunamiWaveChain: nope TsunamiWaveChain: you yourself even said you don't know much about Jerry Rice's career TsunamiWaveChain: prove your theory with stats TsunamiWaveChain: you have shown me nothing Lkdg32: i don't have to TsunamiWaveChain: of course you do Lkdg32: ok Lkdg32: i can do that TsunamiWaveChain: you are trying to persuade me to believe a theory TsunamiWaveChain: therefore I need to be shown concrete evidence Lkdg32: AOL Sports - NFL.com Lkdg32: look at his 1990-1994 stats Lkdg32: he averages more yards in the 5 years period than from 1985-1989 Lkdg32: more TDs too Lkdg32: i just proved it Lkdg32: that was easy Lkdg32: *more yards in that 5 year period Lkdg32: The prime concept IS valid TsunamiWaveChain: you say 28-32 is prime right? Lkdg32: and you must accept it Lkdg32: right Lkdg32: except for major injuries, a major disease, or drugs, or some other rare instances Lkdg32: i already mentioned this remember Lkdg32: There is NO PROOF anywhere that someone who is healthy, that their prime isn't 28-32 TsunamiWaveChain: in 1987 he had his career year in TD's, in 1995 he had his career year in receiving yards as well, last year as a 40 year old receiver he netted more receiving yards than in half of his prime years TsunamiWaveChain: all of those seasons were out of his prime TsunamiWaveChain: in 1989 and in 1986 he had more TD's than in any of his prime years Lkdg32: there are other factors, like the QB, the offensive line, etc TsunamiWaveChain: and speaking of 1986 he had more receiving yards that year than in any of his prime years Lkdg32: which is why you do AVERAGES Lkdg32: so those factors don't matter Lkdg32: you take an average of a 5 year period TsunamiWaveChain: of course they do Lkdg32: to eliminate other facotrs TsunamiWaveChain: you used it as part of your statement and I'm just correcting it Lkdg32: because one year his team could suck on the offensive line Lkdg32: you must use averages TsunamiWaveChain: in math class they show you that averages don't necessarily reflect how something really is Lkdg32: it reflects it much better than by doing it on a year by year basis Lkdg32: it is the best way to determine it Lkdg32: Jerry Rice peaked from 1990-1994 overall stats wise TsunamiWaveChain: but his best years were out of his prime TsunamiWaveChain: therefore making your theory invalid Lkdg32: Flair had better matches past his prime than in his prime due to having much better people around him past his prime Lkdg32: Jerry Rice had better people around him those years then TsunamiWaveChain: over a consistent period of time, your theory holds true, but it doesn't prove everything because you can't explain how he had better seasons before and after his prime Lkdg32: Or, his overall stats for those years are still worse than his overall stats in his prime Lkdg32: If he had a C+ offensive line in his prime, and an A- before his prime, he is likely to do better before his prime Lkdg32: if its that much of a difference Lkdg32: there are other factors Lkdg32: the best way to eliminate those factors is by doing AVERAGES Lkdg32: of a period of time Lkdg32: like a 5 year period TsunamiWaveChain: again you can't do averages TsunamiWaveChain: that doesn't prove anything Lkdg32: Why not? Lkdg32: it eliminates factors Lkdg32: And determines which periods of time was he the best Lkdg32: in his prime he was TsunamiWaveChain: because then you are helping out his lesser years in his prime by the better ones TsunamiWaveChain: you have to look in which years he had his BESTS Lkdg32: most TDs and most receiving yards TsunamiWaveChain: and in none of those years fell within his prime, ironically enough Lkdg32: 1990-1994 he did better than 1985-1989 Lkdg32: year by year basis is much harder to do because there are FACTORS Lkdg32: in a long period of time, factors are eliminated, because each year changes TsunamiWaveChain: career most TDs, 22 in 1987..1570 in 1986 in career most receiving yards, and 122 career receptions in 1995 Lkdg32: Because the offensive line could have been A+ in 1987 Lkdg32: and there may not have been any quality receivers other than him that year Lkdg32: these are FACTORS TsunamiWaveChain: it is pointless arguing with you, even with statistics on my side you are too stubborn to acknowledge your theory has flaws and exceptions Lkdg32: to get rid of them, do a period by period basis TsunamiWaveChain: sorry guy Lkdg32: stats aren't on your side Lkdg32: How can you go from 22 TDs to 9? TsunamiWaveChain: if you say so Lkdg32: It is obvious Lkdg32: Jerry Rice didn't get worse Lkdg32: look at his 1988 season, he had 9 TDs TsunamiWaveChain: but he had more yards receiving Lkdg32: he wasn't worse, he was actually better, a year closer to his prime Lkdg32: the offensive line must have been worse Lkdg32: the 22 to 9 TDs is the biggest difference in those two years Lkdg32: also, in 1987 he played 12 games, in 1988 he played 16 games Lkdg32: so he would have likely had 26+ TDs in 1987 TsunamiWaveChain: the 49ers had Roger Craig that season doing a lot of catching and TD'ing, as well as Greg Clark (or Brent Jones I always get the two mixed up) Lkdg32: which is much more than 9 Lkdg32: and he would have had the same amount of yards or more than in 1988 Lkdg32: if he played the same amount of games TsunamiWaveChain: but it's pointless arguing football because it is a completely different nature than wrestling TsunamiWaveChain: as I've already previously stated Lkdg32: Jerry Rice peaked from 28-32, the facts prove it Lkdg32: NEVER LOOK AT CERTAIN YEARS Lkdg32: unless you know EVERYTHING about a certain year Lkdg32: because there are TONS of factors Lkdg32: TONS Lkdg32: to eliminate factors Lkdg32: just go by periods of time Lkdg32: go by his youth years, to his prime years, to his old age years TsunamiWaveChain: AHEM Lkdg32: that is the best way to determine it TsunamiWaveChain: in one ear out the other, ey? Lkdg32: Show me ANYWHERE where old age years are better than prime years TsunamiWaveChain: never! Lkdg32: We are arguining the prime concept in EVERYTHING Lkdg32: its not the prime concept in just wrestling Lkdg32: if you don't know everything about one of jerry rice's years, you can't talk about that year Lkdg32: you can talk about a period of years, because when you talk about a period of years, factors are eliminated, because they change each of those years Lkdg32: so Rice doesn't have any advantages or disadvantages during that period of time TsunamiWaveChain: *yawn* Lkdg32: Which he does in a lot of those certain years Lkdg32: its true Lkdg32: Jerry Rice peaked from 1990-1994 Lkdg32: Flair peaked from 1977-1981 TsunamiWaveChain: blahblahblahblah Lkdg32: I'm listening to everything you say Lkdg32: and responding Lkdg32: You aren't Lkdg32: I am proving you wrong time after time Lkdg32: I proved my prime concept Lkdg32: I can prove it some more if you like Lkdg32: You must acknowledge prime, or i will continue to IM you every day you are on Lkdg32: Unless you can prove the prime concept wrong Lkdg32: Prove on a period by period basis that its wrong, like I said TsunamiWaveChain: blah blah blah blah blah Lkdg32: Saying that will make me just want to IM you more TsunamiWaveChain: k Lkdg32: If you want me to stop IMing you, you must acknowledge prime TsunamiWaveChain: nah Lkdg32: Then I will continue to IM you every time you are on TsunamiWaveChain: k Lkdg32: I have hundreds of AIM names TsunamiWaveChain: k Lkdg32: people talked about it in the thread Lkdg32: you will get several IMs each day Lkdg32: it will get annoying Lkdg32: i like that Lkdg32: it makes me want to IM you even more Lkdg32: acknowledge prime, and i'll leave you alone TsunamiWaveChain: nah Lkdg32: then you will continue to get IMed Lkdg32: it will get annoying AND SO IT BEGINS. 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Guest bob_barron Report post Posted March 24, 2003 Did I just beat Prime?? farseer919: Hi. harbert99: Hello farseer919: Nobody can disprove prime, therefore the prime concept is valid, and it should be known by everyone. farseer919: Everyone must acknowledge it. farseer919: Unless they can disprove it. farseer919: Nobody has so far. farseer919: NOBODY harbert99: A while back I did to get you to stop iming me harbert99: And you even admitted it to Y-n-A harbert99: So why do you keep Iming me farseer919: hang on farseer919: well you said "is there anyway to report him to AOL to get him banned or something?" farseer919: that is unacceptable farseer919: now I will continue to IM you harbert99: That has nothing to do with prime farseer919: until you apologize for that ridiculous comment farseer919: right farseer919: well it does actually harbert99: Why don't you suck my cock and call it a day farseer919: You wanting me to get banned because of prime farseer919: becuase of my prime spreading farseer919: that is unacceptable farseer919: apologize farseer919: prime is a valid concept farseer919: it needs to be spread farseer919: because it applies to EVERYONE harbert99: Does Tom Glavine fall under prime? farseer919: yes farseer919: he is past his prime farseer919: he wishes it was 1995 farseer919: or 1996 farseer919: back in his prime harbert99: so what 4 years were his prime farseer919: 5 years you mean farseer919: Glavine is what? 37? harbert99: yes farseer919: 1994-1998 harbert99: wouldn't you say his prime was 1991-1995 farseer919: no farseer919: 1991-1993 was his youth harbert99: why not? farseer919: he was young and getting better farseer919: that isn't the prime concept farseer919: look at his stats farseer919: that backs up my prime concept farseer919: that his prime was 1994-1998 farseer919: i never looked at his stats before, but i know because of the prime concept, that his stats were at his best then farseer919: unless he had major injuries from 1994-1998 harbert99: Well will you look up his stats? harbert99: He hasn't had any major injuries farseer919: sure farseer919: i'll look them up farseer919: whoops farseer919: Glavine is actually 36 farseer919: he turns 37 in two days farseer919: on March 25 harbert99: ok farseer919: born March 25, 1966 according to the baseball almanac farseer919: now let me see his stats farseer919: His 1994-1998 average ERA is lower than his 1999-2002 ERA harbert99: what about 1991-1995 farseer919: *1999-2002 average ERA farseer919: hang on farseer919: i'll look at 1989-1993 farseer919: 5 year periods harbert99: no- 1991-1995 I think was his prime farseer919: ok fine harbert99: cause in 1989 and 90 the Braves sucked farseer919: i'll look at that farseer919: http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pl...php?p=glavito02 harbert99: I think Ed Belfour's prime was 1990-1995 harbert99: is that correct? farseer919: Don't know about him farseer919: prime is a 5 year period, not a 6 year period harbert99: Well he's 37 farseer919: but if you look up his stats farseer919: you'll see his performed best from 1994-1998 farseer919: from 28-32 farseer919: unless he had major injuries farseer919: a major disease farseer919: did drugs farseer919: etc harbert99: But in 1999 his GAA was 1.99 farseer919: send me a link to his stats farseer919: i'm looking up glavine's stats now harbert99: http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/players/stat...ics?statsId=100 farseer919: doing an average of his ERA harbert99: This year is the year he's had his best save % harbert99: but he's past his prime! farseer919: before it was easy to see his ERA was better from 1994-1998 than from 1989-1993 farseer919: or 1999-2002 farseer919: Average ERA from 91-95 was 3.11 farseer919: Average ERA from 94-98 was 3.09 harbert99: okay farseer919: .02 lower farseer919: Glavine harbert99: What about Belfour? farseer919: so he didn't do worse farseer919: he did slightly better farseer919: his true prime 94-98 than his bogus prime "91-95" farseer919: ok let me look at belfour farseer919: hang on farseer919: He no sold the 89-90 season? farseer919: don't see his stats for that year harbert99: He didnt play harbert99: His rookie year was 90-91 farseer919: What about 88-89? farseer919: He played that season harbert99: He was most likely in the minors farseer919: This year isn't over yet farseer919: you can't go by this year yet farseer919: until its over farseer919: for instance, Curt Schilling harbert99: He has only 9 games left farseer919: he was really hot for the beginning and mid 2002 season farseer919: oh farseer919: then schilling slowed down harbert99: but dont you see that so far Belfour is disproving prime? farseer919: let me see his stats farseer919: hang on farseer919: not really farseer919: maybe he hated Dallas and is glad to be out of there farseer919: and into his homeland of Canada farseer919: much happier farseer919: that is a LEGIT reason farseer919: like Wayne Gretzky farseer919: he didn't like LA farseer919: liked Edmonton much better farseer919: he just didn't try as hard in LA harbert99: He won the Cup in Dallas harbert99: wouldn't he like it there farseer919: he left harbert99: Yes but in his post prime seasons in Dallas he was pretty good farseer919: pretty good, right, but not as good as in his prime harbert99: I disagree farseer919: how so? harbert99: This year he has been fantastic harbert99: yet is 37 harbert99: I mean- whasupwitdat farseer919: It is best to go by a 5 years farseer919: or 4 years farseer919: to judge by farseer919: because there are FACTORS farseer919: like defense harbert99: What about save % farseer919: likely his toronto defense is much better than his dallas defense farseer919: right harbert99: His best was this year farseer919: which is why his save percentage is better harbert99: Toronto's defence kinda sucks harbert99: Dallas has great defence farseer919: i doubt it farseer919: then maybe belfour is just much more happy in canada farseer919: just stayed in dallas to win a cup farseer919: but as soon as that happened farseer919: wanted to get out of there farseer919: to go to canada harbert99: He only went to TML cause they were the only team who wanted him farseer919: How come? farseer919: Isn't he one of the better goalies? harbert99: Not really farseer919: Not really? farseer919: Then why was he mentioned so much? farseer919: He must have been good farseer919: Mike Modano farseer919: Bret Hull harbert99: No- when they signed him many people considered him over the hill farseer919: Ed Belfour harbert99: and didnt like it harbert99: but he proved he is not past his prime farseer919: you can still be good past your prime farseer919: like Michael Jordan of 1996-1998 farseer919: he is past his prime harbert99: His stats have not dropped off- His best year save % wise is this year farseer919: he is worse, but still good farseer919: prove that the toronto defense is worse than the dallas defense harbert99: Do you know anything about hockey? farseer919: Nope farseer919: but i don't have to farseer919: i can just look at stats farseer919: if you tell me what determine's the stats for the defense of a team farseer919: I know about wrestling, and I know that Ric Flair hasn't had a great match since 1994 harbert99: shots against harbert99: Shots against are a good defensive measure farseer919: Bret Hart only had 1 great match since Canadian Stampede farseer919: over 2 years farseer919: took him 2 years to have another great match farseer919: against Benoit on Nitro harbert99: We still haven't finished with Belfour farseer919: ok farseer919: where is the stats for that? farseer919: shots against harbert99: http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/statistics?s...03&seasontype=2 harbert99: Belfour is 7th Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Retro Rob Report post Posted March 24, 2003 Boy am I glad I don't display my AIM name... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted March 24, 2003 Yea wouldn't want prime to IM RetroRob321 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
