To all the anti-conspiracy theorists

[Guest Kid Kablam]

Ok, we've heard from the hhhaters who think that HHH is to blame for everything wrong with WWE. And we've also heard from the hhhater haters. But answer me this, if there is no truth to the "HHH buries people" myth, then why have two of the past world title challengers been reduced to main eventing heat. True, the writers haven't helped, but come on!

[Guest bob_barron]

Because they're match has no place on the card due to the lack of buildup

[Guest IB2BLACK]

So, it's HHH fault that RVD & Kane are on Heat?

[Guest The Hollywood Fashion Plate]

Exactly. If it's anything, it's the writers' lack of planning and forethought in writing WM storylines while accomodating for the other show's matches (which they wont have to do starting in June). In fact, Steiner's a former main eventer and he doesn't even have a match Sunday, so blame that on HHH too, I guess.

[Guest IB2BLACK]

You can't blame HHH for Steiner's shortcomings in the ring, and RVD's shortcomings on the mic, and his staleness, IMO.

[Yuna_Firerose 0]

Kane....is just another boring hoss. The only difference is that he can jump off the top rope, which is something JR and King freak out over, even though Cruiserweights do it almost all the time.

 

RVD....is a spot machine that does the same spots over and over.

 

The team is just another "strange team" that's randomly put together. The only time they were at all interesting was when they had those funny skits together.

[Guest Mole]

Ahhh, I wouldn't go that far fellas.

 

If anything, if Booker T doesn't win, then it is Triple-Juice's fault.

 

You can't blame Triple-Juice for RVD not being on WM, that doesn't make much sense. If anything, it is the writers fault.

[Guest AndrewTS]

Exactly. If it's anything, it's the writers' lack of planning and forethought in writing WM storylines while accomodating for the other show's matches (which they wont have to do starting in June). In fact, Steiner's a former main eventer and he doesn't even have a match Sunday, so blame that on HHH too, I guess.

Naw, I'd blame it on Steiner having the two worst matches of 2003 with HHH two months in a row.

[Guest bob_barron]

If anything, if Booker T doesn't win, then it is Triple-Juice's fault.

No- it's Vince McMahon's fault

[Guest NoCalMike]

If RVD is stale, then how the hell is the "punch, kick, stomp, repeat" style that is shared by the top players, not even more stale? WWE has the roster(at least partially)to instill a new style at least in the main event, but it would have to include the slow fazing out of guys who are either too old, half crippled, or just have a lack of wrestling skills in order to keep up. RVD/Benoit/Eddy/Angle(??), and some more can offer something different, if it ever happens, or if they are just gonna have to mold themselves into the same boring style that currently exsists, remains to be seen.

[Guest AlwaysPissedOff]

RVD can offer something different? His style is no different than the main event style, just that his stuff goes "forearm, kick, flip, repeat".

 

Obvious anti-RVD bias aside, that doesn't mean he shouldn't get pushed, but to say he's something different is a mistake.

[EL DANDY~! 0]

However, to all you anti-RVD guys out there, the crowd loves him to death. If Vince truly cared about what the fans want, he'd let RVD get a run, but then again, he isn't 6'6" 300 lbs...so...

[Guest bob_barron]

No- it's the fact that RVD has little to mic skills why he's not getting a big push

[Guest SP-1]

The bucks always stops with Vince McMahon. I really believe that. Now, Trips may be in Vince's ear, and he may be maneuvering around but I think Vince really believes it's all for the good of the company. But in the final analysis, it rests squarely on the shoulders of Vincent Kennedy McMahon to turn things around. Vince who, by the way, is taking up space on a card instead of letting the guys he pays to do that . . . well, do that.

[Guest HellSpawn]

So, its HHH's blame if RVD wrestle the same match every single time, or to be honest almost every single time?

 

There is another thread about moveset & finishers, but lets be honest, when I look an RVD match, I always got the feeling that I already saw this match, even if he changes the order a little.

 

I know everyone has a TM moveset, but, look at Jericho, he at least changed some of his moves, I dont remember the last time he used the double powerbomb, sometimes he doesnt use the sprinboard kick, he only use the Arrogant cover when he is heel.

 

And at least from what I been readin (I dont get SDown) its the same for the SDwon 6, they try something new from time to time.

 

Damn, even Taker changed his moveset last year, he began to use "shoot fighting" moves.

[Guest CanadianChick]

I don't blame HHH for RVD's and Kane's de-push. He might have influence, but I think that blame should be placed on Vince. As Paul Heyman said on his Off the Record interview, all successes should be credited on Vince and all mistakes should be blamed on Vince (thats not an exact quote, but close enough).