Wrestlemania opinions

[Guest Redhawk]

I'm not saying for sure that Jericho wanted to lose. All I'm saying is that it's a possibility, and is even more of a possibility when you consider that Jericho probably looked up to HBK when he was younger. I don't think every wrestler cares whether or not he wins every match as much as his fans do. Besides, "Chris Jericho" the WRESTLING CHARACTER said he was going to win -- every wrestling character is supposed to say that. Chris Irvine the MAN may have wanted to lose to HBK all the time.

[Guest Mulatto Heat]

I still don't see how this damages Jericho..All Day I heard either "Goldberg, Missed SSP and A CLASSIC HBK/Jericho" matter of fact, No one even said anything about who won...

What, no talk of Hogan/Vince or Rock/Austin, which you told us again and again and again that they were the two REAL draws to the card? I'm shocked....

[Guest SP-1]

Sometimes people like to put the carriage in front of the horse, and I doubt that will ever change.

The exact same thing can be said for the doomsayers as well.

 

Let's look at HBK dropping the title back to HHH. First of all, if it wasnt HBK, if it were, say, RVD, he still would have dropped the belt at Armageddon. Why? Because, as you cute lil' smarkies like to say, it's TRIPLE F'N H. The Horrid Man of the Backstage, apparently the enemy of every smark everywhere. If there was ONE person capable of carrying the belt onward and dropping it to someone who needed it, it was SHAWN MICHAELS. But no. People only want to see the Kliq returning and fuss about it.

 

Everybody loves to be wiseguy and call HBK the "Holy Bible Kid" and make fun of his being a Christian, but then refuse to acknowledge a Christian attitude with him. Well pick a side because you look retarded acknowledging it on one end and refusing to on another. If you want to consider the man backstage, consider every option. It's a much more believable scenario to me for HHH to have railroaded even his good buddy HBK, especially if you factor in that Shawn may not be the party animal and the screwjob guy anymore, and that HHH got where he is pretty much on his own. You cannot simply revert back to old times in career scenarios like that. But no. Nobody wants to consider that idea because it doesn't suit the smark mentality that nobody ever changes and bastards backstage will always be bastards backstage.

 

And what if HBK/Jericho continue to feud? What if there's (GASP~!) respect between the two and Jericho wanted to put HBK over in what is likely his last WrestleMania match? What if HBK respects Jericho and wants to really have Jerky be the man that ENDS HIS CAREER.

 

Hmm . . . let's see . . . win a match at WrestleMania . . . or END THE HEARTBREAK KID'S CAREER. Which is going to make you a bigger heel?

 

Exactly.

 

What am I saying? Let it play out. Don't fuss about a story until it's finished playing out. Mania is ONE POINT in a storyline that will have several, I'm sure. It's a part, not the whole. The whole puts Jericho over. Not the part. So wait and see what happens. Or fuss. It's your God-given right and ability, I suppose. But don't close your mind off to the whole, to what's important.

[Guest The Mighty Damaramu]

Oh yeah.......Austin/Rock was NOT what I expected. Dammit I know Austin is better than this. We all know he's better than this....but maybe his time is just over....maybe he just can't go like he used to. Oh well I still have there BADASS X7 match.

Oh and who said that if Jericho won at Mania he would've lost at Backlash. See this is THE WHOLE FUCKING PROBLEM WITH THE WWE! Someone loses once and then goes over in the rematch. Gee who's better? This getting your heat back shit is terrible. If Jericho won this month and they had a rematch then he should've won again. It will put him over big. Remember when the last time someone destroyed a legend 2 PPV's in a row? Remember how over he got that year? What was his name again?

[Guest Retro Rob]

As a MF'er, I was happy with the result of the opener, but it was too short.

 

Taker/Jones-Show/Train was watchable because Jones was no where to be found. It is funny though how the WWE screwed us out of seeing his debut twice now. Keep in mind, I'm not complaining.

 

The three-way for the Women's Title was decent. Nothing different than what we see on Raw though. Although I thought Jazz should have won, this way her and Trish could rekindle their feud for the title.

 

The SD! Tag-Team three-way was also nothing different than the norm. I was glad to see Team Angle go over because now that Kurt is out, they would have lost most of their heat without the titles.

 

Chris Jericho and Shawn Michaels put on a TREMENDOUS performance. That match was lightyears better than what I was expecting. The finish was crap, but it had me on the edge of my seat the entire time. Not too many matches do that these days. I don't know what the point in putting HBK over was. It most likely ties into Diesel's return. Either way, even though he lost, the crowd was really into Jericho, so he benefited from the match in that way.

 

HHH-Booker T was good for a HHH match. It was nice to see Book squash HHH's face with the Harlem Hangover. Too bad Booker didn't win the title, but most of us knew he wouldn't. We were just trying to avoid the inevitable.

 

Hogan and Vince were able to spend 20 minutes punching, kicking, and chairing each other. All in all, it wasn't half-bad. Especially when you take into account that Hogan is 50 and Vince is just about 60. Piper's return was a HOLY SHIT moment, but he looked to be out of shape. I don't know where they are going with Piper now. Hopefully we don't have AGE IN THE CAGE for the trillionth time at Backlash. Kudos to Hogan for not passing out during the match and kudos to Vince for that FUCKING AWESOME PSYCHOPATH LOOK he had on his face once he found the pipe.

 

Austin and the Rock put on a very good match. I'm not quite sure what the point was in jobbing out a guy who will be wrestling for the next several months or even years to someone who wrestles in-between filming movies. I know this is a hot-topic, but that's my take on it.

 

Kurt Angle is one crazy motherfucker and etched his name in wrestling history FOREVER last night. He did the unthinkable. Honestly, I thought the match would be similar to Austin-HBK at XIV, but it was nothing like that. Angle muscled through his injury, pulled out and received a few suplexes. Hell, he even saved the finish of the match by rolling out of the way once he saw Brock wasn't going to hit the SSP. As for the SSP, maybe Brock should have done it at a few recent house shows, considering the last time he hit one was a year ago in OVW. I felt kind of bad for Kurt since he just busted his ass for Brock, who then went on to botch the finish. Nonetheless, excellent match.

 

Overall, I was expecting nothing going in and was pleasantly surprised. This wasn't X-7 level or anything, but it was a hell of an improvement over X-8. I believe that XIX will be looked at as one of the better WrestleManias in WWE history.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

Isn't Mania supposed to be THE point? You know "the biggest stage", the "grand daddy of em all"?

 

But if Jericho ENDS SHAWNS CAREER! That must MEAN something! Then Shawn wouldn't, he wouldn't, he wouldn't WRESTLE all those ONE match a month that he does now! OH THE HUMANITITY! So young, so much potential... Damn you Jericho! Damn you for ending a career that already ended 5 years ago! Damn you for beating a man that has already been beaten before by HHH at the lowest buyrated PPV of the year! Damn you for failing the first time~!

[Guest ViciousFish]

I thought Wrestlemania XIX was pretty damn good. The only thing I was disappointed by all night was HHH?Booker which I found really really boring, except for the legdrop thingy Booker did which looked like it KILLED HHH. Sure the SD tag match and the CW title match coulda went longer but they were good for the time they were given. The hoss match was way better then I though it was and same with Hogan/MacMahon. I was yelling and screaming like a little girl when Hogan Hulked up and when Piper made his appearance.

[Guest Human Fly]

First of all everyone is assuming that Jericho is going to get a rematch next month. But if you go buy Shawn's recent schedule Jericho won't even get a rematch until June. And on top of that Nash is coming in to possibly feud with Shawn so Jericho may get put on the back burner with Test or some other chump again.

 

So many storylines go all to crap now I have lost all ability to be optimistic. You've got to show me the proof before I'll believe it. Bottom line who has Shawn put over besides HHH since his return? Certainly not RVD like all the people said he would. Wait and see you said than too. Well we waited, and we saw.

[Guest Retro Rob]

Isn't Mania supposed to be THE point? You know "the biggest stage", the "grand daddy of em all"?

 

Honestly man, go watch your puro and stop acting like such an ass. "WrestleMania isn't supposed to be good, it's supposed to be the best show ever.... blah blah blah." Did you even watch the show?

[Guest the pinjockey]

Honestly man, go watch your puro and stop acting like such an ass. "WrestleMania isn't supposed to be good, it's supposed to be the best show ever.... blah blah blah." Did you even watch the show?

It is supposed to be the best show ever though. Wrestlemania is supposed to be the end to current feuds before launching the next feuds. And while I liked the show I don't see where anyone is out of line thinking that with the current roster available that the WWF should be able to put on the greatest show ever.

 

Damn you people for wanting excellence.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

All I did was say what the WWE said. How exactly am I wrong?

[HurriShane 0]

Has anybody else realized that this may have been the final Wrestlemania for Hogan, HBK, Austin, Rock, and Angle?

[Guest HartFan86]

Actually, Retro Rob ...it's being reported Brock practiced the move all day and hit it perfect....it was just a freak mistiming on Brock's part that seriously could of been deadly.

[Guest THE MIGHTY THOR]

A friend of mines taped the ppv and i watched it. I thought it was 2 good matches and the rest of them were tv show matches material, one more thing why spend 7 minutes on that punk Limp dick Biskit and a couple of more minutes on the catfight skanks instead of giving Rey more time in his match or giving it to RVD?Thank God i didn't pay for this crap.

[Guest The Mighty Damaramu]

It's not Angle's last WM. He's not going to be gone that long.........

[Guest SP-1]

But if Jericho ENDS SHAWNS CAREER! That must MEAN something! Then Shawn wouldn't, he wouldn't, he wouldn't WRESTLE all those ONE match a month that he does now! OH THE HUMANITITY! So young, so much potential... Damn you Jericho! Damn you for ending a career that already ended 5 years ago! Damn you for beating a man that has already been beaten before by HHH at the lowest buyrated PPV of the year! Damn you for failing the first time~!

 

Didja watch RAW tonight? Didja hear HBK's reaction when he ran in? You'll prolly claim it was piped or some shit but whatever. HBK is devalued to most of the people around here because of the sins of the past. Ultimately, that's the loss of the people who do it.

 

First of all everyone is assuming that Jericho is going to get a rematch next month. But if you go buy Shawn's recent schedule Jericho won't even get a rematch until June. And on top of that Nash is coming in to possibly feud with Shawn so Jericho may get put on the back burner with Test or some other chump again.

 

Or it's HBK/Booker vs HHH/Jericho next week. Whichever.

[Guest El Psycho Diablo]

But if Jericho ENDS SHAWNS CAREER! That must MEAN something! Then Shawn wouldn't, he wouldn't, he wouldn't WRESTLE all those ONE match a month that he does now! OH THE HUMANITITY! So young, so much potential... Damn you Jericho! Damn you for ending a career that already ended 5 years ago! Damn you for beating a man that has already been beaten before by HHH at the lowest buyrated PPV of the year! Damn you for failing the first time~!

 

Didja watch RAW tonight? Didja hear HBK's reaction when he ran in? You'll prolly claim it was piped or some shit but whatever. HBK is devalued to most of the people around here because of the sins of the past. Ultimately, that's the loss of the people who do it.

 

First of all everyone is assuming that Jericho is going to get a rematch next month. But if you go buy Shawn's recent schedule Jericho won't even get a rematch until June. And on top of that Nash is coming in to possibly feud with Shawn so Jericho may get put on the back burner with Test or some other chump again.

 

Or it's HBK/Booker vs HHH/Jericho next week. Whichever.

It seems futile to me having HBK win. Yeah, it may be his last Wrestlemania. Weren't we ALL saying that after the Michaels/Austin match? Yup.

 

If one thing is true, the only way a wrestler 'retires' is total incapacitation, death, or financial success OUTSIDE of wrestling. Michaels would have "retired", then came back six months or a year later. It happens.

 

However, Jericho beating him should be the equivalent of something like HHH/Foley..meaning a HUGE push if they're smart about it. Let him be a -man- instead of a whiney bastard, and it'd do wonders for his character. Arrogance over retiring a legend? Of course. Cowardice? Occasionally. But by all means, let him look credible. *shrugs*

 

With this company, I'm sure Hogan, Michaels, and Austin will be around until 2010 sometime.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

Do they cheer for Michaels because he gives awesome matches and is a great worker or do they cheer him because he WAS HBK - a great worker who had awesome matches. I'm thinkin the latter. They are cheering the Michaels of old - and guess what? Jericho didn't lose to the Michaels of Old.