Guest Super Pissed Smark Posted April 1, 2003 Report Posted April 1, 2003 Yeah, I was wondering about that as well. Should be interesting to see how J.R. first refers to him. "Ohmigod, it's former WWE champion Deisel, he hasn't wrestled here in years King!" or "Deisel, known better to some of you as Kevin Nash from the NWO, who has now changed his hair. Yes, the hair!" I think I read somewhere that Nash thinks he'll get a bigger push as Deisel, one of Vince's creations, than as NWO-guy. If that's true then the smartest guy in wrestling seems to be cofirming that Vince is even more of an idiot than we thought.
Guest AndrewTS Posted April 1, 2003 Report Posted April 1, 2003 Ok, wait... People know who Kevin Nash is. He's been wrestling as Kevin Nash since 1996. Your average mark will look at him and go "Oh, that's Kevin Nash." So what exactly is the point in saddling a gimmick on him that's literally almost 10 years old at this point (He started around '94 with it, didn't he? Something like that...) that no one, outside of a select few fans, will remember, especially seeing as how the Diesel gimmick is just Nash being Nash, except with "Diesel" written on his tights. It seems so pointless... Compared to everything else sucking in WWE at this point, that's very minor. He thinks he'll have better luck as Diesel, BTW.
Guest Memoirs of an Invisible Chevy Posted April 1, 2003 Report Posted April 1, 2003 Diesel ... I remember him. Wait, wasn't he that guy that was champ during one of the worst years EVER? Weren't his main challengers Jeff Jarrett, Psycho Sid, Mabel, and a years-passed-washed-up King Kong Bundy? SSSShhhhhssssshhhhh! The smart marks only follow figures, not the circumstances surrounding them. They say Nash doesn't draw, so he doesn't draw. Face it.
Guest AndrewTS Posted April 1, 2003 Report Posted April 1, 2003 Diesel ... I remember him. Wait, wasn't he that guy that was champ during one of the worst years EVER? Weren't his main challengers Jeff Jarrett, Psycho Sid, Mabel, and a years-passed-washed-up King Kong Bundy? SSSShhhhhssssshhhhh! The smart marks only follow figures, not the circumstances surrounding them. They say Nash doesn't draw, so he doesn't draw. Face it. Didn't he also fued with HBK, Undertaker and Bret Hart? We seem to forget that too, don't we?
Guest Memoirs of an Invisible Chevy Posted April 1, 2003 Report Posted April 1, 2003 Diesel ... I remember him. Wait, wasn't he that guy that was champ during one of the worst years EVER? Weren't his main challengers Jeff Jarrett, Psycho Sid, Mabel, and a years-passed-washed-up King Kong Bundy? SSSShhhhhssssshhhhh! The smart marks only follow figures, not the circumstances surrounding them. They say Nash doesn't draw, so he doesn't draw. Face it. Didn't he also fued with HBK and Bret Hart? We seem to forget that too, don't we? Give me a break, the product was fucking SHITTY in 95. Everyone knows that was their worst year creatively. You can't blame Nash whatsoever. He was responsible for the resurgence of Barry Horowitz? The characters Jean-Pierre Lafitte, Thurman Sparky Plugg, The Bodydonnas, Techno Team 2000, and others? C'mon. You all have blind hatred towards the guy because of his perceived backstage pull. Big whoop. I didn't see him use any pull when he was left off the WM card last year. The guy didn't toil in WCW Main Events for 5 straight years...he was a team player. But no, he ended Goldberg's streak. Wow, the crowd was 50/50 during that match anyway. Vince has a hard-on for him, and it'll always stay that way. Since my boy Steiner has been left on the backburner, I want Nash to go straight to the top. I wanna see if any of you have the sack to finally stop watching when that happens. I'll love it.
Guest razazteca Posted April 1, 2003 Report Posted April 1, 2003 Diesel ... I remember him. Wait, wasn't he that guy that was champ during one of the worst years EVER? Weren't his main challengers Jeff Jarrett, Psycho Sid, Mabel, and a years-passed-washed-up King Kong Bundy? SSSShhhhhssssshhhhh! The smart marks only follow figures, not the circumstances surrounding them. They say Nash doesn't draw, so he doesn't draw. Face it. Didn't he also fued with HBK and Bret Hart? We seem to forget that too, don't we? Give me a break, the product was fucking SHITTY in 95. Everyone knows that was their worst year creatively. You can't blame Nash whatsoever. He was responsible for the resurgence of Barry Horowitz? The characters Jean-Pierre Lafitte, Thurman Sparky Plugg, The Bodydonnas, Techno Team 2000, and others? C'mon. You all have blind hatred towards the guy because of his perceived backstage pull. Big whoop. I didn't see him use any pull when he was left off the WM card last year. The guy didn't toil in WCW Main Events for 5 straight years...he was a team player. But no, he ended Goldberg's streak. Wow, the crowd was 50/50 during that match anyway. Vince has a hard-on for him, and it'll always stay that way. Since my boy Steiner has been left on the backburner, I want Nash to go straight to the top. I wanna see if any of you have the sack to finally stop watching when that happens. I'll love it. Actually I hate Nash for giving The Giant the Tiger Driverahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh '91
Guest papacita Posted April 2, 2003 Report Posted April 2, 2003 As big a Diesel mark as I was (especially post SS 95), I fail to see the point of this. Just bring him back as Nash.
Guest papacita Posted April 2, 2003 Report Posted April 2, 2003 He was responsible for the resurgence of Barry Horowitz? The characters Jean-Pierre Lafitte, Thurman Sparky Plugg, The Bodydonnas, Techno Team 2000, and others? HEY! Don't hate on Barry! And he was Bob "Spark Plugg" Holly by then...
Guest Memoirs of an Invisible Chevy Posted April 2, 2003 Report Posted April 2, 2003 As big a Diesel mark as I was (especially post SS 95), I fail to see the point of this. Just bring him back as Nash. I agree 100% I like him either way though.
Guest Downhome Posted April 2, 2003 Report Posted April 2, 2003 I actually don't see the point in it either, it really will make little sense seeing Kevin Nash go back to a character type...well, character. I don't see how they can explain Kevin Nash being called just Diesel again, but I'll wait and see. I'll love it however, untill it shows itself to be a mess, as I AM a huge mark for the character.
Guest Blue Bacchus Posted April 2, 2003 Report Posted April 2, 2003 be honest, who else clicked on this expecting something about a bicep injury? That wouldn't be terrible news for us. Terrible news would be something like "Nash to get huge push when he returns." Doesn't Gimmick repackaging mean "Huge Push"?
Guest JDMattitudeV1 Posted April 2, 2003 Report Posted April 2, 2003 Vince, if your going to bring back another nostalgia act, at least bring one back that was actually successful (if he can find one he hasn't already brought back).
Guest Memoirs of an Invisible Chevy Posted April 2, 2003 Report Posted April 2, 2003 Vince, if your going to bring back another nostalgia act, at least bring one back that was actually successful (if he can find one he hasn't already brought back). Why would you waste your time stating something EVERYONE says. Is there an echo in here? Jeepers. Baaah.
Guest evilhomer Posted April 2, 2003 Report Posted April 2, 2003 I don't see how they can explain Kevin Nash being called just Diesel again, but I'll wait and see. Probably something along the lines of "I lost my smile as Kevin Nash". It's pretty dangerous for big Kev to be messin with his hair. I mean his body falling apart doesn't seem to affect him adversly, but the hair, he can't go on if something happens to it. Conditioner Kev, Conditioner.
Guest El Psycho Diablo Posted April 2, 2003 Report Posted April 2, 2003 I don't see how they can explain Kevin Nash being called just Diesel again, but I'll wait and see. Probably something along the lines of "I lost my smile as Kevin Nash". It's pretty dangerous for big Kev to be messin with his hair. I mean his body falling apart doesn't seem to affect him adversly, but the hair, he can't go on if something happens to it. Conditioner Kev, Conditioner. I'd laugh my ass off if dying it made him go bald temporarily.
Guest Memoirs of an Invisible Chevy Posted April 2, 2003 Report Posted April 2, 2003 Oh Kevin Nash hair jokes, how original.... When is someone going to call him Big Poochie? Bah
Guest AndrewTS Posted April 2, 2003 Report Posted April 2, 2003 Oh Kevin Nash hair jokes, how original.... When is someone going to call him Big Poochie? Bah How about "Big Gimpy?"
Guest Trivia247 Posted April 2, 2003 Report Posted April 2, 2003 oye...... you know I don't know what his real Hair color is anymore...... last time we saw hiim it was bleached blonde nearly Greyish white..and now he is going back to black.
Guest AndrewTS Posted April 2, 2003 Report Posted April 2, 2003 oye...... you know I don't know what his real Hair color is anymore...... last time we saw hiim it was bleached blonde nearly Greyish white..and now he is going back to black. Him and Hall both had graying in their beards, so possibly he opted to go blond after the graying started to get more noticable in his hair. I think it was naturally brown, though.
Guest Memoirs of an Invisible Chevy Posted April 2, 2003 Report Posted April 2, 2003 Oh Kevin Nash hair jokes, how original.... When is someone going to call him Big Poochie? Bah How about "Big Gimpy?" Atleast it is more original.
LooseCannon25 Posted April 2, 2003 Report Posted April 2, 2003 You know i may get killed for this.....But, when the guy is motivated he's not that bad. He brings a lot of intensity and charisma. He had a very good WMXIV match with Taker.....he's had some great matches with Hart. A very good match with Owen Hart on the first Action zone show in 95 (remember that). The guy can be ok if he can stay healthy.......then again he'll probably break his neck trying to take an over the top rope bump the same night he returns....oh well
Guest Memoirs of an Invisible Chevy Posted April 2, 2003 Report Posted April 2, 2003 You know i may get killed for this.....But, when the guy is motivated he's not that bad. He brings a lot of intensity and charisma. He had a very good WMXIV match with Taker.....he's had some great matches with Hart. A very good match with Owen Hart on the first Action zone show in 95 (remember that). The guy can be ok if he can stay healthy.......then again he'll probably break his neck trying to take an over the top rope bump the same night he returns....oh well *kills Loose Cannon*
Guest papacita Posted April 2, 2003 Report Posted April 2, 2003 You know, they could always have him come back as Nash, take a sick looking bump and revert back to his Diesel character...or they could go the Chainsaw Charlie route (everybody knows it's Terry, but he insists on doing the stupid gimmick).
King Cucaracha Posted April 2, 2003 Report Posted April 2, 2003 You know, they could always have him come back as Nash, take a sick looking bump and revert back to his Diesel character...or they could go the Chainsaw Charlie route (everybody knows it's Terry, but he insists on doing the stupid gimmick). Coach-"Kevin Na...." 'Don't call me Big Kev' Diesel-"Kevin...who is Kevin? I am Diesel!" Or... Hogan-"Hey big guy." Diesel-"Do I know you? Weren't you that guy how worked here in 93?" That'd be really funny, because it'd suck on a WrestleCrap proportion. As for Nash, again (like Goldberg) I see the reasons for hating him but I don't really care. If he entertains for a while, who really cares? I'm not gonna follow the rest of the sheep and say he sucks...I don't need to say it just to try and be popular amongst fellow Smarks. (No offense of course)
Guest cynicalprofit Posted April 2, 2003 Report Posted April 2, 2003 Didn't Vince learn the first time Diesel nearly killed his company? I think the only time Vince learned a damn thing was when Pillman died.
Guest Goodear Posted April 2, 2003 Report Posted April 2, 2003 I'm not sure why this is terrible news. "Diesel" was a bit more entertaining than Kevin Nash for me since he was doing a more serious character in the WWF and didn't go for laughs as much. I think a return to the harder edge would be good for him. I don't have a problem with Nash really, since I really can't see really getting up in arms over who Vince hires since he can't get the writers to make any of them interesting anyway. There's not going to be one personality that just sweeps out of nowhere and charges wrestling up again for a while anyway.
Guest The Hamburglar Posted April 2, 2003 Report Posted April 2, 2003 Fear not, fans. While Big Kev may have lost that is-it-grey-is-it-blond-we-just-don't-know marvel, he still retains the ability to flop his hair around. That'll be enough for me to watch his matches. Maybe. As long as he doesn't try and get motivated, 'cos lazy Nash is hilarious.
Guest subliminal_animal Posted April 2, 2003 Report Posted April 2, 2003 Oh Kevin Nash hair jokes, how original.... When is someone going to call him Big Poochie? Bah Finally some said it. I think the only time Vince learned a damn thing was when Pillman died. What did he learn? Yeah, I was wondering about that as well. Should be interesting to see how J.R. first refers to him. "Ohmigod, it's former WWE champion Deisel, he hasn't wrestled here in years King!" or "Deisel, known better to some of you as Kevin Nash from the NWO, who has now changed his hair. Yes, the hair!" That's pretty funny. The first one would stop my heart with laughter if it happened. I think I read somewhere that Nash thinks he'll get a bigger push as Deisel, one of Vince's creations, than as NWO-guy. If that's true then the smartest guy in wrestling seems to be cofirming that Vince is even more of an idiot than we thought. Yeah, I thought the same thing when I read that. In turn, I also echo the sentiments that it's a needless reversion. But then again, not for Nash if Vince is a TRUE DUMBASS! Coach-"Kevin Na...." 'Don't call me Big Kev' Diesel-"Kevin...who is Kevin? I am Diesel!" Or... Hogan-"Hey big guy." Diesel-"Do I know you? Weren't you that guy how worked here in 93?" That was/would be great. You are awesome, my friend. But maybe not, you just may've been lucky.
Guest cynicalprofit Posted April 3, 2003 Report Posted April 3, 2003 Oh Kevin Nash hair jokes, how original.... I think the only time Vince learned a damn thing was when Pillman died. What did he learn? He decided after Pillman's death that maybe the old formulas had become dated and things needed to change. Pillmans death was really just a final piece of the puzzle. They are real humans, not gimmicks. They aren't all stable and yes, they can die from what he demands of them.
Guest wwF1587 Posted April 3, 2003 Report Posted April 3, 2003 I will give the diesel gimmick another shot as i use to mark for him when i was younger.... but diesel or nash or whoever... if he injures himself again during his first match... i will never stop laughin
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