Phone Booth

[Guest Downhome]

BAD movie.

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Why would Stu want to confess his sins, and then say "it is because I want to do it, not because you told me to sniper"? It is never shown or explained why exactly he would change from a guy who doesn't give a shit to a guy who really cares about confessing his sins. Also a HUGE flaw in this movie is when Stu takes the gun on top of the phone booth. Common sense to the cops would state Stu having a gun, means that Stu shot the jiggalo, and the guy on the phone is Stu's friend, trying to get him off the hook, by pretending to be bad. So the cops should have shot and killed Stu. Another flaw in the movie is when he told his wife that he was cheating on her and she NO SOLD. That isn't a normal reaction from a wife learning that her husband has cheated on her. Yet another flaw in this movie is that the police don't know about the MIA pizza man. The guy didn't ever return to the pizza store, so if this movie had logic, the pizza store would report it to the police, and the police would ask Stu about it.

This is just a terrible movie with poor logic.

This post is very flawed, I'll rip it apart later, unless someone gets to it before me.

[Guest hydroapple]

>This post is very flawed, I'll rip it apart later, unless someone gets to it before me.

 

LOL. How so? My post is not flawed at all, what IS flawed is the movie. Please try to "rip my post apart" just to humor me.

[Guest hydroapple]

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Why didn't Stu just give the jiggalo the $500 he wanted so he could use the phone indefinitely? Stu could afford it. Also why didn't Stu just give the jiggalo his cell phone? Then he would likely stop bothering him. The jiggalo would almost for sure left Stu alone if he did one of these two things, and then the jiggalo would never have been shot.

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

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Why didn't Stu just give the jiggalo the $500 he wanted so he could use the phone indefinitely? Stu could afford it. Also why didn't Stu just give the jiggalo his cell phone? Then he would likely stop bothering him. The jiggalo would almost for sure left Stu alone if he did one of these two things, and then the jiggalo would never have been shot.

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He gave him all the cash he had. He tried giving him his watch, but Leon wouldn't take it. As the caller later mentions, it was Stu's attitude that was the problem.

[Guest areacode212]

Another MAJOR flaw in the movie:

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Why didn't Stu just give the jiggalo the $500 he wanted so he could use the phone indefinitely? Stu could afford it. Also why didn't Stu just give the jiggalo his cell phone? Then he would likely stop bothering him. The jiggalo would almost for sure left Stu alone if he did one of these two things, and then the jiggalo would never have been shot.

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It obviously wasn't just about the money or the phone. It was about the pimp's pride. Stu was basically blowing him off in front of the hos. Don't you remember how the hookers were getting in their pimp's face asking if he was going to take that shit from Stu?

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

BAD movie.

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Why would Stu want to confess his sins, and then say "it is because I want to do it, not because you told me to sniper"?  It is never shown or explained why exactly he would change from a guy who doesn't give a shit to a guy who really cares about confessing his sins.  Also a HUGE flaw in this movie is when Stu takes the gun on top of the phone booth.  Common sense to the cops would state Stu having a gun, means that Stu shot the jiggalo, and the guy on the phone is Stu's friend, trying to get him off the hook, by pretending to be bad.  So the cops should have shot and killed Stu. Another flaw in the movie is when he told his wife that he was cheating on her and she NO SOLD.  That isn't a normal reaction from a wife learning that her husband has cheated on her. Yet another flaw in this movie is that the police don't know about the MIA pizza man.  The guy didn't ever return to the pizza store, so if this movie had logic, the pizza store would report it to the police, and the police would ask Stu about it.

This is just a terrible movie with poor logic.

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1. Stu was broken down by that point, and has pretty much given up on his chances of getting out alive. Watch how he behaves after giving the speech.   2. They are cops. They are not going to shoot Stu unless he tries something. Even if they don't believe him they would rather have him arrested than dead. And when he does make a move at the end, they DO shoot him. Just with a rubber bullet. They want to take him alive unless they have no other choice.   3. This is hardly a normal situation. Would you be angry at someone who is already suspected of killing one man and is involved in a police standoff?

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He gave him all the cash he had. He tried giving him his watch, but Leon wouldn't take it. As the caller later mentions, it was Stu's attitude that was the problem.

 

 

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Forgot about the amount of cash he had. Stu's attitude wasn't the problem. The pimp didn't care about Stu's attitude, he just cared that Stu wouldn't give up the phone. If this movie had logic, Stu would have offered the pimp his cell phone.

[Guest areacode212]

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Another flaw in the movie is when he told his wife that he was cheating on her and she NO SOLD.  That isn't a normal reaction from a wife learning that her husband has cheated on her.

 

Just to add to what Kahran said...

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What exactly is a "normal reaction" to being told that your husband is cheating on you? Is this something you experience often? What did you expect her to do? Mouth "...you bastard!" at him, burst into tears and run away? Given the situation, in which her husband's infidelities were the least of her worries, I thought she played it well. She was stoic, but you could tell that she was still pretty stunned at the revelation.

[Guest hydroapple]

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1. Stu was broken down by that point, and has pretty much given up on his chances of getting out alive. Watch how he behaves after giving the speech.   2. They are cops. They are not going to shoot Stu unless he tries something. Even if they don't believe him they would rather have him arrested than dead. And when he does make a move at the end, they DO shoot him. Just with a rubber bullet. They want to take him alive unless they have no other choice.

 

 

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1. Stu wasn't giving up on his chances of getting out alive. Things were going very well for him actually, he wasn't going to die if he kept confessing his sins. The only challenge for Stu was to take out his cell phone and put it near the pay phone so the main cop could hear the sniper talking on the phone. Stu confessed his sins because he was forced to, not because he was about to die.   2. It made NO sense that since Stu had a gun, the cops didn't think that Stu WAS actually the shooter of the pimp.

[Guest Retro Rob]

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The one thing you are missing is that the movie is based on Stu's character development. The killer's motive the entire time was change Stu's self-centered personality and outlook on life. Stu wasn't just confessing his sins because the sniper said to, he also wanted to come clean to his wife before he died. I think he mentions that saying, "I didn't do that for you, but for her." In the back of Stu's mind he knew that the sniper wasn't going to let him live, so like most people who are on the verge of death, he apologized to all the people he had hurt. In a way, the sniper was doing Stu a favor, for how he is a better man ala Tyler Durden and the convience store clerk in Fight Club. By the time the movie was over Stu's character made a complete 180. That was the point of the movie.

[Your Paragon of Virtue 0]

Too many blank spaces for my liking. I've gotten mixed reviews from people that I know that have seen it. I'll probably just download it and see how it turns out.

[Guest hydroapple]

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The one thing you are missing is that the movie is based on Stu's character development. The killer's motive the entire time was change Stu's self-centered personality and outlook on life. Stu wasn't just confessing his sins because the sniper said to, he also wanted to come clean to his wife before he died. I think he mentions that saying, "I didn't do that for you, but for her." In the back of Stu's mind he knew that the sniper wasn't going to let him live, so like most people who are on the verge of death, he apologized to all the people he had hurt. In a way, the sniper was doing Stu a favor, for how he is a better man ala Tyler Durden and the convience store clerk in Fight Club. By the time the movie was over Stu's character made a complete 180. That was the point of the movie.

 

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The sniper never mentioned that he would kill Stu if he confessed his sins and he made it clear that he was only interested in Stu confessing his sins, so there is no reason why Stu would think the sniper would kill him. Stu said "I didn't do that for you, but for her" because the movie has poor logic. It made no sense why he said that, because it was never shown or explained why Stu all of a sudden now cared about confessing his sins.

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

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The one thing you are missing is that the movie is based on Stu's character development. The killer's motive the entire time was change Stu's self-centered personality and outlook on life. Stu wasn't just confessing his sins because the sniper said to, he also wanted to come clean to his wife before he died. I think he mentions that saying, "I didn't do that for you, but for her." In the back of Stu's mind he knew that the sniper wasn't going to let him live, so like most people who are on the verge of death, he apologized to all the people he had hurt. In a way, the sniper was doing Stu a favor, for how he is a better man ala Tyler Durden and the convience store clerk in Fight Club. By the time the movie was over Stu's character made a complete 180. That was the point of the movie.

 

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The sniper never mentioned that he would kill Stu if he confessed his sins and he made it clear that he was only interested in Stu confessing his sins, so there is no reason why Stu would think the sniper would kill him. Stu said "I didn't do that for you, but for her" because the movie has poor logic. It made no sense why he said that, because it was never shown or explained why Stu all of a sudden now cared about confessing his sins.

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First, Stu said "You aren't going to let me out of here, are you?" or something along those lines, in which the sniper replied, "no." So Stu knew he was going to die, so he confessed his sins. And if anything has poor logic, it's you, dude.

[Guest hydroapple]

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First, Stu said "You aren't going to let me out of here, are you?" or something along those lines, in which the sniper replied, "no." So Stu knew he was going to die, so he confessed his sins. And if anything has poor logic, it's you, dude.

 

 

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I didn't remember that Stu asked the sniper that. Not poor logic, bad memory. But there are still plenty of major illogical things in this movie.

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

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First, Stu said "You aren't going to let me out of here, are you?" or something along those lines, in which the sniper replied, "no." So Stu knew he was going to die, so he confessed his sins. And if anything has poor logic, it's you, dude.

 

 

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I didn't remember that Stu asked the sniper that. Not poor logic, bad memory. But there are still plenty of major illogical things in this movie.

Not if you think about them.

[Guest hydroapple]

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But there are still plenty of major illogical things in this movie.

 

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Not if you think about them.

 

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Not true. It made NO sense that since Stu had a gun, the cops didn't think that Stu WAS actually the shooter of the pimp. And it made NO sense that the police don't know about the MIA pizza man. The guy didn't ever return to the pizza store, so if this movie had logic, the pizza store would report it to the police, and the police would ask Stu about it.

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

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But there are still plenty of major illogical things in this movie.

 

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Not if you think about them.

 

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Not true. It made NO sense that since Stu had a gun, the cops didn't think that Stu WAS actually the shooter of the pimp. And it made NO sense that the police don't know about the MIA pizza man. The guy didn't ever return to the pizza store, so if this movie had logic, the pizza store would report it to the police, and the police would ask Stu about it.

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First, the cops knew about the sniper before Stu had the gun. And if you heard, Forest Whitaker told them to hold their fire. And it takes 48 hours for the police to file a missing person thing, while it was, what, not even an hour the pizza guy was gone? Maybe he had other deliveries?

[Guest El Satanico]

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Wow, there sure is alot here to read for us that haven't seen it and don't want to read the spoilers

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First, the cops knew about the sniper before Stu had the gun. And if you heard, Forest Whitaker told them to hold their fire. And it takes 48 hours for the police to file a missing person thing, while it was, what, not even an hour the pizza guy was gone? Maybe he had other deliveries?

 

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Common sense to the cops would state Stu having a gun, might mean that Stu actually shot the pimp, and the guy on the phone is Stu's friend, trying to get him off the hook, by pretending to be bad. So the cops should have thought about this which they did not in the movie, and that is poor logic. If the pizza guy had deliveries after he tried to deliver the pizza to the phonebooth, then the people waiting for their pizzas would call and complain to the pizza company about the MIA pizza man, and then the pizza company would call the cops because the pizza man was to deliver to the phone booth in which the alledged shooter of the pimp is in. If the pizza guy didn't have deliveries after he tried to deliver the pizza to the phonebooth, then the pizza company would just call the cops because the pizza man was to deliver to the phone booth in which the alledged shooter of the pimp is in. Then the cops would ask Stu about the pizza man. This never happened in the movie because the movie has poor logic.

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

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First, the cops knew about the sniper before Stu had the gun. And if you heard, Forest Whitaker told them to hold their fire. And it takes 48 hours for the police to file a missing person thing, while it was, what, not even an hour the pizza guy was gone? Maybe he had other deliveries?

 

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Common sense to the cops would state Stu having a gun, might mean that Stu actually shot the pimp, and the guy on the phone is Stu's friend, trying to get him off the hook, by pretending to be bad. So the cops should have thought about this which they did not in the movie, and that is poor logic. If the pizza guy had deliveries after he tried to deliver the pizza to the phonebooth, then the people waiting for their pizzas would call and complain to the pizza company about the MIA pizza man, and then the pizza company would call the cops because the pizza man was to deliver to the phone booth in which the alledged shooter of the pimp is in. If the pizza guy didn't have deliveries after he tried to deliver the pizza to the phonebooth, then the pizza company would just call the cops because the pizza man was to deliver to the phone booth in which the alledged shooter of the pimp is in. Then the cops would ask Stu about the pizza man. This never happened in the movie because the movie has poor logic.

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But they know he didn't shoot the pimp. Forest saw the red beam on the wife's forehead, and knew their was a sniper on the roof. And what would happen if they asked Stu about the pizza man? "I told him to go away." Big whoop.

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But they know he didn't shoot the pimp. Forest saw the red beam on the wife's forehead, and knew their was a sniper on the roof. And what would happen if they asked Stu about the pizza man? "I told him to go away." Big whoop.

 

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Don't remember Forest seeing the red beam on the wife's forehead, but if he did, then Forest should have thought of the solid possibility of the caller on the phone being Stu's friend, and him having a laser or a high powered rifle with a red beam to just further prove that he is really a sniper, but the caller is just doing it to try to get Stu out of the pimp's death. Forest and the cops should have thought about this, but they didn't, so this movie has poor logic. They wouldn't believe Stu if he said that he told the pizza man to go away because the pizza man has been MIA. They would think of the possibility that Stu killed the pizza man. But they didn't because this movie has poor logic.

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

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But they know he didn't shoot the pimp. Forest saw the red beam on the wife's forehead, and knew their was a sniper on the roof. And what would happen if they asked Stu about the pizza man? "I told him to go away." Big whoop.

 

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Don't remember Forest seeing the red beam on the wife's forehead, but if he did, then Forest should have thought of the solid possibility of the caller on the phone being Stu's friend, and him having a laser or a high powered rifle with a red beam to just further prove that he is really a sniper, but the caller is just doing it to try to get Stu out the pimp's death. Forest and the cops should have thought about this, but they didn't, so this movie has poor logic. They wouldn't believe Stu if he said that he told the pizza man to go away because the pizza man has been MIA. They would think of the possibility that Stu killed the pizza man. But they didn't because this movie has poor logic.

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Okay, you are thinking too much into this. A friend with a lazer? That seems highly doubtful. And with the pizza guy. How could Stu kill him if he was in the phone booth the whole time?

[Guest areacode212]

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Common sense to the cops would state Stu having a gun, might mean that Stu actually shot the pimp, and the guy on the phone is Stu's friend, trying to get him off the hook, by pretending to be bad. So the cops should have thought about this which they did not in the movie, and that is poor logic. If the pizza guy had deliveries after he tried to deliver the pizza to the phonebooth, then the people waiting for their pizzas would call and complain to the pizza company about the MIA pizza man, and then the pizza company would call the cops because the pizza man was to deliver to the phone booth in which the alledged shooter of the pimp is in. If the pizza guy didn't have deliveries after he tried to deliver the pizza to the phonebooth, then the pizza company would just call the cops because the pizza man was to deliver to the phone booth in which the alledged shooter of the pimp is in. Then the cops would ask Stu about the pizza man. This never happened in the movie because the movie has poor logic.

I'm going to kick my screen in if I see "...because this movie has poor logic" one more time...

 

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I can't believe you're going on and on about such an unimportant point. The pizza delivery guy was gone for about an hour. Maybe the guys at the pizza store thought he was standing around watching the unfolding drama at the phone booth. Hell, maybe *they* were watching it and didn't notice he was gone. Maybe he's the owner of the pizza store and he can stay out as long as he wants. Who cares?

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Okay, you are thinking too much into this. A friend with a lazer? That seems highly doubtful. And with the pizza guy. How could Stu kill him if he was in the phone booth the whole time?

 

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The cops should have thought about the solid possibility of Stu calling his friend to help him get out of the pimp's death and then his friend using a lazer to prove that he is a sniper, but the cops didn't because this movie has poor logic (YES areacode212, it is true, so don't get pissed off when I say it). The pizza guy was supposed to deliver to the phone booth in which has the alledged shooter of the pimp. The pizza delivery man has been MIA since before the pimp's death. So the cops should have thought about the possibility of Stu killing the pizza delivery man (before the hookers and pimps started to bother him, when nobody was watching him) and storing him away from the phone booth, but the cops didn't because this movie has poor logic.

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

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Ok, this is getting idiotic. Stu never left the phone booth, so how can he get rid of the body? Jeez....

[Guest hydroapple]

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Stu never left the phone booth but NOBODY was watching him when the pizza delivery man tried to deliver him the pizza so the cops could have believed that he killed the pizza delivery man and stored him away from the phone booth. But they didn't because this movie has poor logic.

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

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Stu never left the phone booth but NOBODY was watching him when the pizza delivery man tried to deliver him the pizza so the cops could have believed that he killed the pizza delivery man and stored him away from the phone booth. But they didn't because this movie has poor logic.

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The guy with those little toys that hit the phone booth was standing 3 feet away from Stu when he walked in the phone booth, and the pizza guy came.

 

 

 

 

Forgot to put spoilers in the last post, my bad.

[Guest hydroapple]

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The guy with those little toys that hit the phone booth was standing 3 feet away from Stu when he walked in the phone booth, and the pizza guy came.

 

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Forgot about that guy. He left the scene after Stu gave him money for the destroyed robot. But Stu never left the phone booth and nobody except the robot guy who would soon later leave was watching him when the pizza delivery man tried to deliver him the pizza so the cops could have believed that he killed the pizza delivery man and stored him away from the phone booth. But they didn't because this movie has poor logic.

[Guest HollywoodSpikeJenkins]

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The guy with those little toys that hit the phone booth was standing 3 feet away from Stu when he walked in the phone booth, and the pizza guy came.

 

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Forgot about that guy. Then the cops could have believed that Stu killed the pizza guy and the toy guy (because they would believe Stu is psycho) and stored their bodies elsewhere. But they didn't because this movie has poor logic.

Alright....

 

 

 

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[Guest Lethargic]

I just watched it. I didn't think it was the greatest thing ever. It was good but not as good as I hoped. I don't really feel the need to see it again ever but it was good. I didn't really have all these so called logic problems watching it though. Haven't you ever seen a movie before? Not everything in a movie is gonna happen the way YOU think. It happens the way to tell the story the filmmakers want to tell. Sure I watch a million movies and get pissed at what the characters do. A real person wouldn't do this, wouldn't do that. If that was me I'd do this or that. But at the end of the movie all that matters is if it worked and told a decent story and this one did that. The only thing I really wondered about is how in the world I'm supposed to believe that this guy can set all this up. To know all this stuff, to rig the phone, leave the pizza guy and all that. That's a lot of work for just some dude to pull off.

 

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I'd just like to say that I hate these spoiler boxes.