May 5th

[Guest snuffbox]

I think a daily flooding of wwe email with hundreds of similar letters could cause a stir of some sort. doing that for a week or two might frustrate some people into paying a little attention

 

there must be 500-1000+ smarks out there willing to do it...this 'revolution' just needs to find people willing to speak up and at least try. its really the only chance of fixing any of this shit. speak up in the best and most ways possible.

[Guest ViciousFish]

What's the point of this without having to go through 13 pages worth of posts???

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

I get the point of the drive.

 

Even if all these letters do is make Vince release a large flatulence so vicious it makes Stephanie pass out for 45 minutes and HHH use an Economy-Sized clothespin and put it on his honker... Well, that's more flatulence, more passing out, and more clothespin than we would have got if we never did it.

 

 

 

 

Okay, that was a terrible, terrible example, but you get the point.

[Guest Downhome]

No, this is not the best way for things to change. The BEST way for things to change would be competition for Vince.

[Guest Downhome]

I get the point of the drive.

 

Even if all these letters do is make Vince release a large flatulence so vicious it makes Stephanie pass out for 45 minutes and HHH use an Economy-Sized clothespin and put it on his honker... Well, that's more flatulence, more passing out, and more clothespin than we would have got if we never did it.

 

 

 

 

Okay, that was a terrible, terrible example, but you get the point.

No, I pretty much don't get your point, heh.

[Guest snuffbox]

No, this is not the best way for things to change. The BEST way for things to change would be competition for Vince.

and we cant do anything about that really

 

but we can email, write, spread the word, call, boycott etc. It IS the best thing we CAN do.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

I think a daily flooding of wwe email with hundreds of similar letters could cause a stir of some sort. doing that for a week or two might frustrate some people into paying a little attention

You need to make sure what's considered abuse or not. We don't want anyone turned into their ISPs for spamming.

 

A lot of Stupid Net Tricks are now officially considered Terrorism thanks to a bunch of legislation that passed during the Sky Is Falling period after 9/11.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

And that's a definite way to do things DH. By no means should this be contained to angry letters to Titan. If we get a lot of people calling in local tv (or even national ones *this is more for Canada*) stations to pick up nwatna, a local indy, ufc, etc. then that's more potential for change.

[Guest Downhome]

Can one of you post WWE's phone numbers which one would use to contact?

[Guest snuffbox]

I think a daily flooding of wwe email with hundreds of similar letters could cause a stir of some sort. doing that for a week or two might frustrate some people into paying a little attention

You need to make sure what's considered abuse or not. We don't want anyone turned into their ISPs for spamming.

 

A lot of Stupid Net Tricks™ are now officially considered Terrorism thanks to a bunch of legislation that passed during the Sky Is Falling period after 9/11.

im not saying that each person floods their email. just send one email a day, but have as many people as possible do the same thing. I think thats legal...but i could easilly be wrong.

[Guest Memoirs of an Invisible Chevy]

Vince is far too stubburn to change. He has his mind set with what he likes, and wants to do - and he will not change. He thinks that the changes/old stars will help kickstart ratings. Sadly it will not work that way, but he isn't convinced. He won't take the risk with new stars, and will keep pushing the newer stars. Also, the newer stars he has pushed to the top don't have many redeeming qualities; Brock, Booker, Team Angle, Albert don't have much redeeming quality. A boycott COULD help him realize a change is necessary, but I don't think he takes the opinion of internet fans that seriously. If somehow this boycott, or sings of the boycott were on TV where peopel AWAY from the internet could catch on, then you'd be on to anything. But an internet campaign doesn't worry him. Maybe people just need to send actual letters and such. Who knows.

[Guest snuffbox]

No, this is not the best way for things to change. The BEST way for things to change would be competition for Vince.

maybe a portion of this 'revolution' should be to pick one Wed. and have as many smarks as possible buy the NWA ppv on that night.

 

It could spike their buyrate a bit and could possibly be organized en masse once every month or two? not very expensive and it could help wake vince up to some growing competition. maybe.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

Actual Letters is certainly something that must be done. There is a personal touch that comes with them that doesn't come with an email.

 

It's really a combination of things that could get Vince to change his mind, which is why this could be called a "war on all fronts". From the Wrestlers, to the Sheets, to the fans, to the competition, to local newspapers, etc. if we can effect, or open the possibility to effect, these things, change is possible.

[Guest Memoirs of an Invisible Chevy]

No, this is not the best way for things to change. The BEST way for things to change would be competition for Vince.

maybe a portion of this 'revolution' should be to pick one Wed. and have as many smarks as possible buy the NWA ppv on that night.

 

It could spike their buyrate a bit and could possibly be organized en masse once every month or two? not very expensive and it could help wake vince up to some growing competition. maybe.

Vince doesn't consider the NWA competition. He doesn't consider MMA competition. He thinks he owns North American pro wrestling. If the TNA can get a TV deal, than he'd get a tinge scared. Or if wrestlers began to spurn him for the TNA...whcih i doubt will happen. To Vicne the TNA consists of guys he released.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

snuff, that's a really good idea that could be implemented and should be expanded upon and looked at further. (I'd say buy the next UFC or PRIDEFC ppv, it would probably be enjoyed more)

[Guest Memoirs of an Invisible Chevy]

Actual Letters is certainly something that must be done. There is a personal touch that comes with them that doesn't come with an email.

 

It's really a combination of things that could get Vince to change his mind, which is why this could be called a "war on all fronts". From the Wrestlers, to the Sheets, to the fans, to the competition, to local newspapers, etc. if we can effect, or open the possibility to effect, these things, change is possible.

But there needs to be less concentration on the internet aspect. People could use the internet to inform other sites, online newspapers, and others. But the revolution itself needs to be done by other means.

[Guest creativename]

I think a daily flooding of wwe email with hundreds of similar letters could cause a stir of some sort. doing that for a week or two might frustrate some people into paying a little attention

 

there must be 500-1000+ smarks out there willing to do it...this 'revolution' just needs to find people willing to speak up and at least try. its really the only chance of fixing any of this shit. speak up in the best and most ways possible.

I wholeheartedly agree. I'll do this boycott thing, but it's virtually hopeless, even if it is a great idea. There are however things that I think we can organize that actually have a very good chance at attracting attention.

 

Downhome had another great idea (funny how he comes up with all these ideas once he stops trolling...hehe... )...calling WWE offices. I suggest the following strategies after the boycott; these will need more organization (I'm actually working a little bit on this already):

 

1) Snail mail WWE, TNN, and UPN offices

2) e-mail the above, and perhaps individuals as well

3) Call the above

 

I am certain that if we can get just a few hundred people to do each of these things, it will attract the attention of WWE management. Getting a few hundred to do this is a very realistic aim as well. Note that getting attention probably won't be enough to enact change...but it's something.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

Can one of you post WWE's phone numbers which one would use to contact?

Too tired to just check their site, eh?

[Guest snuffbox]

No, this is not the best way for things to change. The BEST way for things to change would be competition for Vince.

maybe a portion of this 'revolution' should be to pick one Wed. and have as many smarks as possible buy the NWA ppv on that night.

 

It could spike their buyrate a bit and could possibly be organized en masse once every month or two? not very expensive and it could help wake vince up to some growing competition. maybe.

Vince doesn't consider the NWA competition. He doesn't consider MMA competition. He thinks he owns North American pro wrestling. If the TNA can get a TV deal, than he'd get a tinge scared. Or if wrestlers began to spurn him for the TNA...whcih i doubt will happen. To Vicne the TNA consists of guys he released.

exactly

 

so maybe a few organized 'IWC Buys NWA' nights could help them compete a bit. if such an idea were implemented though, the NWA should probably be informed as well so they know where the support is coming from and they keep Russo shit to a minimum.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

The concentration on the internet thing at this time is just an initial stage - one of hopefully many. The internet is the easiest way to get our message across, but by no means is the most effective. It's a good place to start, however, as it allows for ideas, thoughts, comments to be shared and expanded upon.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

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[Guest Jobber of the Week]

Maybe we should just start regularly buying some stock and form a group?

 

It would be costly, but it would get the message across that we're serious that we want the company to do well. I doubt it's an entirely terrible idea financially either. If there's something I've noticed, the wrestling business never goes away. At worst, Vince takes the company back for himself at some point so he doesn't have to answer to anyone and you get a nice fat check back for your shares.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

Wait until it becomes a Penny stock

 

I believe it's somewhere around the $8 mark now. Of course, Vince owns millions of shares so...

[Guest Downhome]

Can one of you post WWE's phone numbers which one would use to contact?

Too tired to just check their site, eh?

Ya damn skippy! It's 4:30am here and I'm about to pass out, so sue me, heh.

 

I'm out people, so have fun in here untill I return. Just try not to have TOO much fun. I'll leave you with one last idea...

 

...I think that if we could hire a bunch of midgets, and have them walk by and protest in front of WWE's offices EVERY DAY untill May 5th, that we could then catch WWE's attention. I mean, how could they NOT notice a band of midgets protesting for our cause? Perhaps they could even dance or something, the Smart Marks dance of wrath!

[Guest ViciousFish]

Well its not like Vince is dumb enough to sell off 50% of the company. He keeps 51% so he can have total control.

[Guest snuffbox]

Well its not like Vince is dumb enough to sell off 50% of the company. He keeps 51% so he can have total control.

no shit

[syxx2001 0]

how about this. every day for one week, EVEYRONE emails the wwe and lets them know what we think of their product. but do it in a nice formak matter. be nice. then you write to them. be nice and formal. and have maybe 2 or 3 people call. EVERY DAY. ask to speak to mrs. linda mcmahon.

 

after the first week, we get more agressive. send a email, and let them know what we think of it and be brutally honest. the first email would be "its decent, but it isn't too great." the second would be "it is horrible. hhh is on top" or something. email them that everyday. for a week. mail a brutally honest letter. every day. for a week. those same 2 or 3 people, call. EVERY DAY. FOR A WEEK. but ask to speak to shane mcmahon. or someone different.

 

the 3rd week, if you have yet to get a response such as a phone call, email response, mail response, then do "the stan". you know, the eminem song stan where in the 3rd verse he just goes crazy. well, you could do that and tell them that we dont appreciate our intellegence insulted and the like. every day for a week. and snail mail, and phone calls. that way it isn't spamming. if 500 (hopefully) people are involved, it would work. 200 people email, 200 people snail mail, 90 people do both. the other 10 could call in or something, or just be word spreaders.

 

and we could also use a name. like project change or something.

[Guest Jobber of the Week]

Well its not like Vince is dumb enough to sell off 50% of the company.  He keeps 51% so he can have total control.

Yes but if those of us who spent our PPV money, our tape money, our Trip To WM Money (okay, that one is mostly my fault) on stock and then voiced displeasure, small changes are likely.

 

It's not good to see a whole bunch of stock suddently sell in one day.

 

 

This of course isn't a replacement to the letter idea, it's just some crazy idea I had at 12:34 in the morning.

[Guest snuffbox]

Project Change?.....no

 

just let this build itself slowly, see how many people can be interested in this concept. organize the best ideas and the most people. give it time. may 5 is still a month away...maybe time to get a good crowd behind the idea. maybe maybe not.

 

there are definitly more than a few good thoughts here and im sure there will be a few more to pop up in the days ahead.

 

hopefully it can stay alive and at least draw some attention.

[Guest creativename]

Maybe we should just start regularly buying some stock and form a group?

 

It would be costly, but it would get the message across that we're serious that we want the company to do well. I doubt it's an entirely terrible idea financially either. If there's something I've noticed, the wrestling business never goes away. At worst, Vince takes the company back for himself at some point so he doesn't have to answer to anyone and you get a nice fat check back for your shares.

Well, considering the downward spiral the WWE is on, it would be a bad idea. Shorting the stock would make more financial sense...in fact, that might actually get Vince to panic for real. Short shares are only 2% of WWE float, so it would actually not take much (relatively speaking) to increase this proportion dramatically. And given the low volume for WWE daily trading (only a few thousand shares a day), shorting a few thousand shares in a single transaction would actually have a noticeable impact on the stock price (I know, because I bought a bunch of shares when the nWo came in, and the price jumped like $.10 Of course I sold them right after Mania XVIII). I'd actually be shorting it now, but my portfolio is gone becaues of the down market and to pay for grad school.

 

Also, from what I hear, WWE shares don't have proper voting rights--I think the company charter states that the McMahon's original shares have far greater voting power than ordinary shares.

 

Of course there's no smark in existence that would be willing to do this...though it's actually a good idea. WWE ain't anywhere near the bottom yet, and some good money could be made from this.