Terra Ryzin' WWE

[Guest NoCalMike]

I think the problem is that Triple H's reign has just lasted too long. It is boring and no one ever expects him to lose anymore. He builds the odds against him on purpose leading up to the ppv, only to make it that much better looking for himself when he goes over at the ppv. The delayed pin after the pedigree at WM, intentional or not, was a slap in the face, IMO, that kind of stuff should not be tolerated. If it was the 2nd or 3rd pedigree than maybe I can understand, but the match ended so stale and you could see that stale reaction in the crowd.

 

I never really liked Triple H, even when he was called God during his ultamite heel run. I agreed he played a good heel character, but I NEVER enjoyed his workrate.

 

I am not sure if Triple H understands that just by him being the champ without a real advesary makes him look weaker at the same time. I mean when you watch RAW it is apparent that his whole Clique feud is #2 to Rock/Goldberg and he is the f'n champ. That right there should be an indicator to Vince and Co. that Triple H as a champ is just getting too damn stale.

[Guest Johnson1620]

In all honesty, HHH is the best heel the business has seen in a long time. People love to hate him and that's exactly what the WWE wants. He is slowly becoming a Flair like heel that everyone hates. The HHH hate threads that abound this place is proof of that.

[Guest NoCalMike]

Triple H used to be a good heel. Now he is stale and boring, quite frankly. All he does now is go out to the ring and talk about how he is the leader, the general etc.....and the crowd is just kind of sitting there bored. I don't hate his "character" I hate him for his real-life backstage politics and manipulation....allegedly.

[Guest Coffey]

In all honesty, HHH is the best heel the business has seen in a long time. People love to hate him and that's exactly what the WWE wants. He is slowly becoming a Flair like heel that everyone hates. The HHH hate threads that abound this place is proof of that.

What show are you watching? People cheer for Triple H's entrance. Apparently, even dumb "marks" pop for Motorhead. Then, when he gets in the ring, either on the mic or in a match, the fans sit on their hands. Why? Well, because in a match, they know that he's going over unless it's the Monday before a PPV. If it's a promo, they know what ignorance he is already going to say. So, what's the point? If you ask me, the only thing HHH still has going for him is that his finisher is one of the most credible moves in the WWE. Of course, when you never lose that's going to happen.

[Guest Johnson1620]

In all honesty, HHH is the best heel the business has seen in a long time.  People love to hate him and that's exactly what the WWE wants.  He is slowly becoming a Flair like heel that everyone hates.  The HHH hate threads that abound this place is proof of that.

What show are you watching? People cheer for Triple H's entrance. Apparently, even dumb "marks" pop for Motorhead. Then, when he gets in the ring, either on the mic or in a match, the fans sit on their hands. Why? Well, because in a match, they know that he's going over unless it's the Monday before a PPV. If it's a promo, they know what ignorance he is already going to say. So, what's the point? If you ask me, the only thing HHH still has going for him is that his finisher is one of the most credible moves in the WWE. Of course, when you never lose that's going to happen.

The ends always justify the means. People hate HHH and that's what the WWE wants.

[Guest Coffey]

People hated Justin Credible in ECW...that sure didn't make him good. Also, people hated X-Pac and look where that got him. So, what's your point? Kayfabe was demolished along time ago. The days of The Honky Tonk Man are over. When is heel is over nowadays, the fans cheer him. The WWE has pretty much programmed the fans over the years. When the crowd "likes" as heel, as in they have a good time not liking the guy, they cheer him. See heel Rock. Now, when the crowd legit hates someone nowadays, they just don't want to see him. X-Pac heat.

[Guest papacita]

The article is okay but some parts are bullshit. Chyna didn't rub star power off on him. He fucking brought Chyna in during the spring of 1997. He was way more over than her throughout her entire run. In fact she was a joke until she got ten trillion dollars worth of plastic surgery.

I know I'm biased towards Chyna, but he does have a point there. HHH the Greenwich blue blood was not more over than Chyna. Sure, she didn't have the star power that she had in 99 or 2000, HHH in 96/early 97 was weak as hell and hardly taken seriously by the fans. It wasn't until Chyna started interfering in his matches that HHH really began to get heat (just look at the HHH/Mankind feud from the summer of 97). While he obviously got most of his rub from guys like HBK and Rock, you can't deny that Chyna had a hand in his success.

[Guest mach7]

You'll get no HHHate from me. I say kudos to Triple H. If he truly can manipulate people this well, then he deserves "his spot." The wrestling business is all about politics and manipulation. If Vince & Co. are stupid enough to let themselves be manipulated like that, then they deserve it.

[David Blazenwing 0]

Three weeks ago at Wrestlemania. Most title matches have things like that so acting like it's just for HHH is retarded

Actually WMXIX had Flair interfering every so often to help Triple H.

 

I know that Flair is Triple H's manager (more like valet) but still. You had said that there wasn't any type of gimmick thingy going on, but there was.

I've read that Ric Flair is pretty unhappy with his current role as Triple H's "valet", especially with Hulk Hogan getting as much attention as he is regarding what is probably his last big WWE run.

 

Flair doesn't want to be remembered be fans as "the guy who walked to the ring with Triple H and cheated to help him win matches"... and who can blame him?

[Guest Jack Potts]

mach7: I have to respectfully disagree with your contention that "the wrestling business is all about politics and manipulation." The wrestling business is just that...a business. Their primary reason for existing is to generate a profit. WWE is now a publicly traded corporation, so it has the added responsibility of generating revenue for its stockholders. As an entertainment enterprise it is doing a disservice to its stockholders with it's steadily declining revenues. It is doing a further disservice to its fans by failing to entertain. The willingness of that fanbase to spend money on PPVs, tickets, t-shirts, toys, or other assorted merchandise is the engine that drives revenue. If they ain't entertained, they ain't tunin' in, and they ain't spendin' money on your product, or your advertisers products.

 

The primary issue with HHH among the internet community is the perception that he is the force that is preventing the WWE from either entertaining or generating profits by sabotaging storylines to build his own image as an invincible, ubermensch.

[B. Brian Brunzell 0]

You'll get no HHHate from me. I say kudos to Triple H. If he truly can manipulate people this well, then he deserves "his spot." The wrestling business is all about politics and manipulation. If Vince & Co. are stupid enough to let themselves be manipulated like that, then they deserve it.

Well shit. I never thought about it that way...

[Guest notJames]

The primary issue with HHH among the internet community is the perception that he is the force that is preventing the WWE from either entertaining or generating profits by sabotaging storylines to build his own image as an invincible ubermensch.

That pretty much says it all. You can argue all you want about how smart HHHeMan may be, but the bottom line is that he is not making the company or its constituents any money or drawing in new fans with his stale act and backstage predatory tactics. Sure, we can all hate him, and he can love the fact that we hate him, but it's not the kind of hate that makes me want to pay to see his comeuppance, because it's either a. never going to happen, or b. when it does come, it's a half-hearted nod to tradition, until he can get his heat back bigger and better. Meanwhile, guys who do entertain us are left twisting in the wind with no hope of rising to a more lasting top spot.

 

For anyone to do that in a publicly traded company is tantamount to sabotage. And for that, the HHHate is justified. For me, at least.

[King Cucaracha 0]

Why is Bob Barron sucking Hunter's cock all of a sudden?

I don't think I'm sucking his cock by saying he's had good matches since coming back. How is that sucking his cock?

Because you HAVE to hate Triple H...you HAVE to hate EVERYTHING he does. God damn it you must, as you are a Smark...

 

[/sarcasm]

 

HHH has got where he is by foul means, and he puts down the midcard. I hate him for that. But I still don't find him deathly boring.

 

And anyway, what's the article supposed to acheive. Popularity for this guy hating HHH? That's all I can think of. HHH wouldn't read this, but even if he did he's said time and time before...he doesn't care about what the majoirty of internet fans say. I don't think he should either. Eventually, if he's meant to get his comuppance, he will. Until then, meh. All I care about is what he does on screen, because that's where the wrestling show is...on screen. Just another HHHater trying to be popular IMO. I'm sure I'll get critisised for it though.

[Guest Austin3164life]

I think the dumb marks that we all talk about are all starting to grow a brain. They don't "love" to hate Triple H like the WWE claims. People boo Triple H because most of them are sick of seeing him. It's the same heat that X-Pac received in 2000 and most of 2001. True heels that get a lot of heat get it because they entertain the fans, but they hate the babyfaces. It's why people love to hate Flair, Angle, Cena and others. They have charisma and they can play to the crowd well, at the same time downplaying the faces. Triple H can't seem to do that anymore.

[Guest The Tino Standard]

The primary issue with HHH among the internet community is the perception that he is the force that is preventing the WWE from either entertaining or generating profits by sabotaging storylines to build his own image as an invincible ubermensch.

That pretty much says it all. You can argue all you want about how smart HHHeMan may be, but the bottom line is that he is not making the company or its constituents any money or drawing in new fans with his stale act and backstage predatory tactics. Sure, we can all hate him, and he can love the fact that we hate him, but it's not the kind of hate that makes me want to pay to see his comeuppance, because it's either a. never going to happen, or b. when it does come, it's a half-hearted nod to tradition, until he can get his heat back bigger and better. Meanwhile, guys who do entertain us are left twisting in the wind with no hope of rising to a more lasting top spot.

 

For anyone to do that in a publicly traded company is tantamount to sabotage. And for that, the HHHate is justified. For me, at least.

BINGO.

[Guest evilhomer]

In all honesty, HHH is the best heel the business has seen in a long time.  People love to hate him and that's exactly what the WWE wants.  He is slowly becoming a Flair like heel that everyone hates.  The HHH hate threads that abound this place is proof of that.

 

I'd pay to see a heel Flair get his ass kicked.

 

I wouldn't pay a dime to see heel HHH get his ass kicked.

 

Is that the kind of heel WWE wants?

 

 

I'd pay to see Flair number one because he genuinely pissed me off in a way that wanted me to see the face get revenge. Number two because I'd know that the face, win or lose, would get a measure of revenge.

 

I wouldn't pay to see HHH because number one, while he has pissed me off, it is a "just get the fuck off my tv" piss off. Nothing he has done in the ring has interested me in a manner of "I hope he gets his ass handed to him", meaning, "let me buy that PPV to see it." Number two, because win or lose, the face isn't going to get the revenge, and will look like shit trying.