HHH Already Begins Lobbying Against Dropping The

[Guest BoboBrazil]

There was talk at Raw among a number of people that lobbying has already started to not have Triple H drop the World title to Goldberg in June, as was the tentative plan a few weeks ago. As it stands now, Goldberg is scheduled to beat The Rock and the hope was that momentum would then be built for a program with HHH. Given how they booked Goldberg on Raw this week, he sure isn't being booked properly from where I stand.

 

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Nash=next world champion

[Guest RedJed]

I knew this would happen...........well lets hope then that Booker will just get it and it will start a long run with him as champ..........sure it wont but whatever. I could handle that though, and then both the Nash and Goldberg programs wouldnt be for the belt, which is the way to go, IMO.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

HHH > Goldberg

[Guest Mad Dog]

So if HHH won't drop it to Goldberg then who's he going to drop it to. He got to not give it to Booker on the grounds he needed to be strong for Goldberg. Now he doesn't want to do it.

 

Shouldn't they be jumping to get the belt on to someone else since Trips hasn't pulled a good rating in the last 8 months he's had the belt?

[Mecha Mummy 0]

Oh, god. HHH or Goldberg? *Remembers fond memories of HHH in 2000.* GO HUNTER!

[Guest BoboBrazil]

HHH will drop it to his buddy Nash.

[Guest Mad Dog]

At least Goldberg is something different. An eight month reign in this day and age is beyond stupid. Fans get bored and don't buy long term reigns anymore.

[Guest Eagan469]

HHH said he'd only drop it to Nash, so logic says next PPV has Fatal 4-Way between Nash, Hunter, Goldberg and Shawn, with Nash pinning either Shawn or Hunter to win the title

[Guest Johnson1620]

Goldberg might has deserved the belt 5 years ago, but now he needs to pay his dues in the WWE first.

 

Nash as champ is a great thing!

[Guest RedJed]

God, if Vince gives it back to Nash after their totally failed attempt to give him credibility as the Diesel champ in 95........I think it will be official, either HHH truly has the McMahons by the throats or Vince is back at about the same level of running his company if not worse than the days of the Clique and Hogans runs.

[Guest RedJed]

Goldberg might has deserved the belt 5 years ago, but now he needs to pay his dues in the WWE first.

 

Nash as champ is a great thing!

You know you just contradicted yourself since Nash has wrestled maybe a handlful of matches since his return to WWE, right? By your logic he should pay his dues just like Goldberg then.

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

Nash as champ is a great thing!

That's a joke, right?

 

'cause I just can't tell w/ you.

[Guest ViciousFish]

Was it really a surprise? I was waiting for this thread to show up. If HHH has his choice he will be buried with that title after he dies. He'll retain the damn thing until he retires and be the longest reigning champion ever. Anywhere. At anything.

[Guest Johnson1620]

Goldberg might has deserved the belt 5 years ago, but now he needs to pay his dues in the WWE first.

 

Nash as champ is a great thing!

You know you just contradicted yourself since Nash has wrestled maybe a handlful of matches since his return to WWE, right? By your logic he should pay his dues just like Goldberg then.

Nash has been in this company before and a whole lot longer then Goldberg. He's only been in the WWE for three weeks and people want him to get the belt. That's just ridiculous. So no, I didn't contidict myself.

[Guest Polish_Rifle]

Who cares about the fake world title. The Undisputed title on Smackdown is the only Heavyweight title in the WWE that I recognize.

 

So they can give it to Nash, Steiner, Goldberg, Hall, X-Pac, HHH, Stephanie...it's all the same.

 

If anyone deserved to hold the top title on Raw it should be Jericho.

[Guest Johnson1620]

Nash as champ is a great thing!

That's a joke, right?

 

'cause I just can't tell w/ you.

No joke. I like Nash. When he's healthy he's entertaining as hell. It's just keeping him healthy that's the problem.

[Guest RedJed]

Goldberg might has deserved the belt 5 years ago, but now he needs to pay his dues in the WWE first.

 

Nash as champ is a great thing!

You know you just contradicted yourself since Nash has wrestled maybe a handlful of matches since his return to WWE, right? By your logic he should pay his dues just like Goldberg then.

Nash has been in this company before and a whole lot longer then Goldberg. He's only been in the WWE for three weeks and people want him to get the belt. That's just ridiculous. So no, I didn't contidict myself.

lol.....ok so let me get this straight.

 

First, you said that since Nash used to be in the WWF way back when he doesnt have any dues to pay, huh? He should just immediately be thrown the title (even after totally bombing out as champ before, and Vince even gave him a FULL FUCKING YEAR to draw) after he basically walked out of the company moreless to join WCW? Guys like Hogan, when he returned, even had to pay back their dues to the company. Nash should DEFINATELY not be an exception here. Just because Nash was around in WWE fucking 6-7 years ago doesn't mean he shouldn't pay some dues of his own........hell even if its for the reasoning that the guy has been getting paid by WWE for over a year now and he's worked, like I said, a handful of matches. He should certainly pay some dues.

 

Now I'm confused, you think the fans, after three weeks, want WHO to win the title, Nash or Goldberg? In both cases I don't see what the hell you are talking about there, Nash isn't exactly getting crazy wild pops, with Goldberg is it going up and down.

[Guest Bruiser Chong]

Goldberg might has deserved the belt 5 years ago, but now he needs to pay his dues in the WWE first.

 

Nash as champ is a great thing!

You know you just contradicted yourself since Nash has wrestled maybe a handlful of matches since his return to WWE, right? By your logic he should pay his dues just like Goldberg then.

Nash has been in this company before and a whole lot longer then Goldberg. He's only been in the WWE for three weeks and people want him to get the belt. That's just ridiculous. So no, I didn't contidict myself.

No, but you DID contridict yourself there. Nash may have been in WWE before, but he was a total flop as world champion, abandoned Vince for WCW, and to top it off, hasn't wrestled regularly in about five years. Nash winning the title makes about as much sense as Goldberg winning the title. Frankly, I don't know why this even has to be discussed, why can't WWE just give it to a guy who's over and wrestles on a regular basis (something Nash, Goldberg and even HHH don't)? I know it's cause WWE isn't willing to change, but one would figure that they can't let it get much more out of control.

[Guest Mad Dog]

I'd rather Goldberg get the belt than Nash.

 

At least Goldberg can still move and not get hurt every other match. And Goldberg is probably still carriable at this point in his career. If they pair him up with the right guys he can probably put on superior matches to Trips. But then I guess a trained monkey could do that too.

[rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0]

HHH is right, giving the belt to Goldberg would be a dumb idea. A guy who's yet to wrestle in WWE and has already started a fight shouldn't be a lock-on for the belt. I say Hunter turns face to join the Kliq so he can't take on face Goldberg.

[Guest ViciousFish]

HHH is right, giving the belt to Goldberg would be a dumb idea. A guy who's yet to wrestle in WWE and has already started a fight shouldn't be a lock-on for the belt. I say Hunter turns face to join the Kliq so he can't take on face Goldberg.

I think Goldy should get the belt. Sure he started a fight with Jericho but both men got over it and shook hands. But like a couple of people have stated Goldberg hasn't been injured constantly. How long did Nash last before he tore his bicep or whatever it was? If Goldberg can last longer than that I totally support him as a champ.

[Guest RedJed]

I will only give HHH any sort of credit for vetoing a Goldberg reign if he jobs the belt out to Booker on Raw, PERIOD. The guy has already been caught talking out of both sides of his mouth, and even the biggest HHH lovers should see that now (including Vince himself). They had originally planned to give Booker the belt at Mania, HHH refused, saying it would hurt the belt and Booker to have him as simply a short transitional champ (since HHH would win it back soon after for the Goldberg program, in which the title would change up again).......but now, not surprisingly, says he thinks its not smart to give it to Goldberg either. HHH is usually smarter than this, because its clear what he's up to now.........he just wants to hold down fucking everyone.

 

Vince needs to step up to this shit and go back to the original plan of action since apparently there will be no Goldberg title reign (at least from HHH's hands)......give the title to Booker, NOW.

[Guest Will Scarlet]

Shouldn't they be jumping to get the belt on to someone else since Trips hasn't pulled a good rating in the last 8 months he's had the belt?

 

You'd think so. Especially with the fact that Triple H's knees are about done. One wrong move, and there goes the World Champion.

 

An eight month reign in this day and age is beyond stupid. Fans get bored and don't buy long term reigns anymore.

 

I think it could work if booked correctly. Unfortunately, when you are beating has beens(HBK), overrated hacks(Steiner), and midcarders(RVD, Kane, & Booker T) for the title, it's hard for people to care about the title reign. How am I supposed to buy any of those guys as legitmate challengers to Triple H? HBK was champion during one of the low points in WWE history, and he has just come back from a severe back injury, making him seem like he is not even half of what once was. During WCW's peak, Steiner was basically a tag team wrestler, and hung out with Buff Bagwell. Hardly a guy who screams main eventer. Booker & RVD have basically been told they're not in HHH's league, and then Triple H goes off and beats them relatively clean with the Pedigree, thus proving his point. How am I supposed to believe these midcarders are even close to the great Triple H when it's been proven time and time again that they can't beat him?

 

I cannot say I really care who ends up with the title. I feel that Triple H is probably the safest bet, as scary as that seems.

[Guest RedJed]

HHH is right, giving the belt to Goldberg would  be a dumb idea. A guy who's yet to wrestle in WWE and has already started a fight shouldn't be a lock-on for the belt. I say Hunter turns face to join the Kliq so he can't take on face Goldberg.

I think Goldy should get the belt. Sure he started a fight with Jericho but both men got over it and shook hands. But like a couple of people have stated Goldberg hasn't been injured constantly. How long did Nash last before he tore his bicep or whatever it was? If Goldberg can last longer than that I totally support him as a champ.

I dont think you should reward someone who started shit in the locker room the beginning of the second week of his WWE career with a title run, personally. Not only did he get involved with the shit with Jericho, but he made Vince change the plans of his and Rock's angle that night (Rock was supposed to do a beatdown). So if thats HHH's reasoning (which probably is publicly at least) then I can see that, but then, as I said, Booker should get the title right now.

[Bored 0]

I'm trying to figure out where the story is here? First off its by 1bob so its mostly an opinion piece rather than a news story. Also many people already HHH will drop the title to Nash at Judgement Day instead of to Goldberg. Either way HHH is going to Smackdown after June.

[Guest Trivia247]

personally...not to sound like I agree with the Nazi, but Im not really all that happy to just hire him then give him a title run just like that.

 

Use to be people paid dues with each new company they go into. Like forget whatever success they had elsewhere they come in with a clean slate.

[Guest ViciousFish]

personally...not to sound like I agree with the Nazi, but Im not really all that happy to just hire him then give him a title run just like that.

 

Use to be people paid dues with each new company they go into. Like forget whatever success they had elsewhere they come in with a clean slate.

Problem is Vince doesn't think like that. In fact, Vince doesn't think. Its a sad fact of life that Vince Kennedy McMahon is a senile, crazy old man who has no clue what the fuck he's doing anymore. In his mind, Goldberg, Nash and Steiner can live of their WCW success because they are muscle bound freaks or over 6'6". People like Booker, Storm and Hurricane who helped make Nitro and Thunder have at least one decent match are buried and shuffled into midcard positions. Its a sad fact we all have to get used to. Vince owns the company, Vince makes the decisions and unless one of us get millions of dollars we are at the mercy of Vince. But I guess we can dream.

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

Nash as champ is a great thing!

That's a joke, right?

 

'cause I just can't tell w/ you.

No joke. I like Nash. When he's healthy he's entertaining as hell. It's just keeping him healthy that's the problem.

Then there's that problem of putting on entertaining matches...

[Guest NoCalMike]

The right thing to do is to have Hunter drop the belt to Booker T. Then Booker can feud with Jericho and RVD. At the same time the Cliq can masturbate all over themselves about past times, and "used to be friends" stuff, all the while it doesn't affect the WWE RAW title. I fail to see why the WWE title is even apart of this Clique feud, it is a waste of time and not needed if those 3 are over as THEY THINK they are.

[Guest ViciousFish]

At the same time the Cliq can masturbate all over themselves about past times, and "used to be friends" stuff, all the while it doesn't affect the WWE RAW title. I fail to see why the WWE title is even apart of this Clique feud, it is a waste of time and not needed if those 3 are over as THEY THINK they are.

Is it just me or did then entire Cliq shit at the beginning of Raw seem liek Kindergarden. "well, Kevin if you're his friend then you can't be my friend. And if you're not gonna be my firend I'm gonna go home and play with my cool toys and you can't come."