What pisses you off the most about the WWE ?

[Guest Lightning Flik]

For the most part, the Smackdown show is fairly consistent in airing title defenses... it was pretty much exempt from the point I was making, and I should have said so. Smackdown has its faults but at least they are less glaring than The Kliq Show.

Actually, I was kinda proving your point as well.

 

Since when was the WWE Title actually defended on TV? Like NEVER.

[Guest Dynamite Kido]

Angles that insult my intelligence and HHH......

[Guest Spaceman Spiff]

all of the titles should be defended constantly on TV as well as PPVs, either every week or on a rotating basis. Putting them out there and actually having competition for them would be the only way to legitimize them now, because at the moment they are a joke.

Only titles that you have mentioned that actually do this and aren't resulting of a DQ (in most cases) are as followed:

 

WWE Tag Team (SD)

Crusierweight*

 

*Yes, I know one of the championships was one that no one cares to highly about. But it really is one of the few that do play out to your rules.

My memory could be wrong, but the CW belt is hardly ever defended on SD. All (or a good majority of) Kidman's matches were non-title, and I don't think Mattitude has defended the title on SD. Probably have to go back to Knoble to see the last time the belt was defended on SD.

 

As for PPV, it's pretty hit or miss. There were months when the CW belt wasn't defended on PPV. Is Hardy defending the belt at Backlash? I don't think he is.

[Guest Goodear]

Hardy just defended against Kendrick last show I do believe...

 

I'm actually pretty happy just watching Smackdown right now. I don't really feel the need to complain about much of anything on that show although I wish Tajiri got a few more wins sometimes.

[Guest Cerebus]

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[Guest evilhomer]

- misusing talent, play to their strengths, hide their weaknesses, not the opposite

 

- long matches for bad workers, short matches for good workers

 

- rehashing old storylines and not coming up with any interesting new ones

 

- having a champion who never makes me believe that he will lose a match. I prefer long title reigns, but only when it's a champion who deserves to be there, and who can get me up for a match by making me believe that I may see a title change

 

- the Kliq love fest where I can see that they're the only ones legitimately in the title hunt

 

 

Regarding the mid-card belts. With how devalued they became, it was a good thing to kill them off, there was too much damage for them to be repaired. I'd guess that they plan to bring them back when they can do it in some kind of grand fashion. I hope when they do, they make some competition for the belt, as opposed to competition and you get this belt if you happen to win.

[LooseCannon25 0]

Here are my main gripes:

 

1) Writers who come from Hollywood or comedy backgrounds. These guys obviously don't know shit about wrestling and cater to fans who like wtaching shit. (For example KAtie Vick, Al Wilson, Dawn Marie lesbian, Sable Lesbian, HLA)

 

2) Bringing in former stars from outside instead of pushing your own talent. (Steiner, Goldberg, Nash, Hall, Hogan,HBK) This may have worked when the Invasion started, but not now.

 

3) Politics: Triple H only putting buddies over. I remember a time when Vince wouldn't put up for that shit. While WCW was going down the drain because of politics the WWF was rising and creating new stars. Now it seems like WWE is becoming WCW more and more every day.

 

ONE POSITIVE THING: SmackDown seems to be in the right direction....they're pushing guys like Cena, Mysterio, Lesnar, Team Angle, Los Guerreros,Benoit. All these guys listed can work a good match, and it'll only get better with Edge, Angle, and Kanyon returning soon. Smackdown is the only thing that has me interested in WWE right now.

[Guest Kahran Ramsus]

Here's what I do. More titles are bad. We'd end up with the same situation we did in 2001 with a belt changing hands at least once a week.

 

Re-name the CW Belt the IC Belt, and allow Matt to defend against all challengers regardless of weightclass.

 

Ditch the RAW Tag Belts in favour of a new US Title where RVD & Kane (who should still be tag champs) will have a PPV match to decide the championship.

 

RAW:

World Title

US Title

Women's Title

 

Smackdown:

WWE Title

WWE Tag Titles

WWE IC Title

 

Ship all the women to RAW so they can compete for that title, and ship the teams (basically Three Minute Warning & The Dudleys) to Smackdown where the tag division will be located. This will further differentiate between the brands and give midcarders a stepping stone if used properly (more likely to happen on Smackdown).

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

As long as we have Hosses vs. Cruiserweights and Womens matches on Smackdown, it is NEVER in the right direction.

[Guest bob_barron]

The fact that they've managed to kill my second and third favourites.

[Guest papacita]

1) Writers who insist on "building character" through pointless backstage skits that almost never go anywhere. I also hate that they'd rather go for cheap humor as opposed to actual storyline development.

 

2) No real midcard titles. I'm sorry, but John Cena SHOULD NOT be competing for the World Title at Backlash. I like him and all, and I'm glad they're attempting to push younger guys, but it's too hard to buy him as a main eventer. He's a prime example of why they need an I-C belt.

 

3) Inconsistent storylines...they haven't been THAT bad lately, though.

 

4) On Raw, it seems like no two people are allowed to show interest in the World Title. Right now, no one (besides Booker) seems to even want the damn thing, and then they wonder why it seems so worthless. The belt should be the focal point of the show, with most other upper/midcard programs involving people fighting to get a shot at the title. And I'd love to see some kinda rankings system in the WWE.

 

5) Minor thing, but I'd like for the writers to make more of an effort to explain the presence of cameras backstage.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

So the dropping of Evolution and never mentioning them again isn't considered inconsistent? JR saying that Bischoff couldn't find anyone to beat Stone Cold so he had to fire him isn't inconsistent? Especially when Stone Cold was beaten by the Rock the day before? The fact that only now is Booker T ever remembering that HBK superkicked him dispite having months upon months to get revenge? The whole Kevin Nash/HBK/HHH deal?

[Guest evilhomer]

5) Minor thing, but I'd like for the writers to make more of an effort to explain the presence of cameras backstage.

I think that goes by the entertainment aspect of the show, like on a sitcom, the cameras are there, but the characters are just going about there business as if they aren't to make you feel like you're sitting there with them.

 

Case in point would be Smackdown a few months ago. Rey was cutting an interview with Teri, then caught Brock out of the corner of his eye and cut the interview short to talk to Brock. The interview was the wrestling aspect of the show where the camera is known to be there. The walking off the interview to go to the backstage was the entertainment aspect where we were following Rey ourselves.

[Guest hosserific]

the fact that the main eventers cant wreslte for shit. and its all these stupid marks' fault because they are buying it. look at NWA-TNA, great wrestlers as main eventers, but it'll never be as big as wwe

[Guest Dmann2000]

Mainly the fact that it pisses us off, because then you got a bunch of grumpy smarks and they're NO fun to talk with.

[Yuna_Firerose 0]

That pic of Vince still rules.

 

Just thought of one... Good wrestlers being "punished" or not on the show because of their female valets/"girlfriends". Case in point: Jamie Knoble and Nidia. She's told to lose weight, which is dumb by itself, but then Knoble is made into a jobber.

[Guest Downhome]

My only problem is really with the writing. That is what dictates the shows, and it's truly lacking. I could deal with the Hossi and the reign of HHH a bit more, if they were just taking part in interesting storylines. I also feel that EVERYONE on their TV programs, should have a reason for being there. There are too many pointless matches going on week after week, which mean nothing. EVERYTHING should build towards the next show and PPV, always. Ok, one more thing is that I'd bring back the US and IC title, and that's about all I dislike right now.

 

Of course, the "writing" sums up a lot, it just keeps me from having to write a lot, heh.

[Guest Y2DAYDAY]

Smart fans bitching about HHH when they are clueless as to what the real problem in WWE is, Vincent Kennedy McMahon. Sure, HHH has a lot of stroke but if Vince is set on something, no one can talk him out of it. Vince was hell bent on pushing himself vs Hogan as the main event of Mania so he did. Ditto for his brainchild of the Katie Vick angle, which HHH tried so, so hard to nix but Vince was having none of it. HHH was against bringing in Goldberg but since Vince wanted it, he did it. WWE is Vince's company, not Stephanie's and HHH's. For a better description, HHH is Derek Jeter but Vince McMahon is George Steinbrenner.

 

Simply put, everything in the company goes through Vince and if he wants to do something bad enough, no one can sway him either way.

 

The most overlooked thing on HHH is was his weak spot on the Mania card. He was pushed as the #1 guy on RAW for the previous year and only got to be 4th from the top while Brock Lesnar and Kurt Angle, the top guys on Smackdown, were the main event. Hell, HHH wasn't even the RAW main event on the big show. If he had so much stroke, it would have been a 3 way with Austin and Rock or something that put him all of the way at the top.

 

But he doesn't have that much stroke. Vince wanted Austin vs Rock, Lesnar vs Angle, and himself vs Hogan above HHH and what Vince wants, he gets. And HHH couldn't do shit about it.

[Rendclaw 0]

Just thought of one... Good wrestlers being "punished" or not on the show because of their female valets/"girlfriends". Case in point: Jamie Knoble and Nidia. She's told to lose weight, which is dumb by itself, but then Knoble is made into a jobber.

Good point, Yuna.

 

While she isn't going to win Miss America anytime soon, Nidia is not bad to look at, and as long as she doesn;t let herself go, I think she looks fine the way she is.... I think that she isn't long and lean like say, Torrie or Stacy, plays better for her "trailer-park trash slutty girlfriend" angle that they have her in.

 

And yes, Knoble deserve better than what he is getting, though i think his CW title reign was a touch too long.

 

Their skits we pretty funny for the most part, with Nidia being this nymphette and Knoble barely able to control/satisfy her.

[Guest papacita]

So the dropping of Evolution and never mentioning them again isn't considered inconsistent? JR saying that Bischoff couldn't find anyone to beat Stone Cold so he had to fire him isn't inconsistent? Especially when Stone Cold was beaten by the Rock the day before? The fact that only now is Booker T ever remembering that HBK superkicked him dispite having months upon months to get revenge? The whole Kevin Nash/HBK/HHH deal?

Such an angry young man.

 

And no, none of those are THAT bad (they even mentioned Batista's and Orton's injuries on the air).

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

How is ANY plot hole "not that bad"?

 

Evolution just faded away. Not a mention of them since. It's just like they said "ok, the fans won't notice that this major angle just ended out of the blue."

 

I find bitter smarks are REALLY fun to talk to - you get much better sarcasm and wit out of them then the happy-go-luckies.

[Guest bob_barron]

They did mention Orton and Batista's injuries on air. So they kind of did mention them dissapearing.

 

How do you think they should've explained the Evolution injuries RRR?

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

They should have had had Booker destorying them in a backstage skit. They wouldn't have to do much work, I am sure their bodies could handle it. That way you'd at least make him seem semi-credible and put actual heat on the match without race-baiting.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

Have HHH say "You destroyed my Creation - they were my legacy" and shit like that.

[Guest bob_barron]

I was hoping Goldust would make his debut by beating the holy hell out of Orton and Batista. That would've been awesome.

[LooseCannon25 0]

WWE was trying to make Batista an unstoppable monster before his injury. You think they're gonna make him look like a bitch by getting destroyed backstage and out for several months.......no way

[Guest papacita]

How is ANY plot hole "not that bad"?

If it's not a blatant contradiction (i.e. Kane's role in the Katie Vick angle) and it's something you've really gotta look for, then I really don't that much of a problem.

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

Ah, so you can't sacrifice a hoss to put over Booker T...

 

Makes sense.

 

*groan*

[Guest RavishingRickRudo]

How can you miss Evolution? If you were watching at all in Jan and Feb you'd notice it. Then in March...poof...gone.

[Guest bob_barron]

BookDust attack Batista and Orton with chairs. They make sure HHH and Flair don't interfere and commence beatdown.

 

The end