Guest kane3212321 Report post Posted April 30, 2003 First of all believe the hype it is an excellent continuation of the first movie. The action stands up very well and so does Stryker (I actually thought he'd be a pretty lame bad guy he actually shines in the role). Alam Cumming was amazing as Nightcrawler and the special effects for him were done flawlessly. Alot of cameos from different X-Men characters to really give the fans something to look out for. Oh, and in this one they give Storm more then one line. Thoughts on the Ending Spoiler (Highlight to Read): I loved the cameo from Hank McCoy (hasn't had his accident yet I see. Also the ending with the image of the Phoenix over the water where Jean 'dies' really has me already hyped for another sequel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted April 30, 2003 One question: Did Lady Deathstrike kick Wolverine's ass like Mystique did in the first movie? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted April 30, 2003 *reads spoiler* *marks out* *BIG TIME* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted April 30, 2003 Must not read spoilers ever again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Satanico Report post Posted April 30, 2003 :sits in a lawn chair and holds up a "Down With Summer Blockbusters" sign: And I don't mean "down" like the brothas mean it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest kane3212321 Report post Posted April 30, 2003 In answer to Flyboys question, yes. Longer Spoilerish Answer Spoiler (Highlight to Read): Deathstrike only has one longish fight with Wolverine at the end. She kicks his ass around a fair bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted April 30, 2003 In answer to Flyboys question, yes. Longer Spoilerish Answer Spoiler (Highlight to Read): Deathstrike only has one longish fight with Wolverine at the end. She kicks his ass around a fair bit. I knew it! Damn you, Brian Singer! The only one that is suppose to hand Wolverine's his ass is Sabretooth, damnit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nanks Report post Posted April 30, 2003 Just got back from the cinema then. And not being a comic book fan, I really enjoyed it anyway. I'm not jaded by how characters are meant to interact and what powers people are meant to have etc. eg, I've heard Rogue is meant to have different powers, but I dunno. A question on the ending for those who've seen it though, Spoiler (Highlight to Read): What was that shadow above the flooded base with Jean's voice-over?? I assume this is something that happened in the comics already, I don't want to wait however long it is to know. Little help? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lil Naitch Report post Posted April 30, 2003 Just got back from the cinema then. And not being a comic book fan, I really enjoyed it anyway. I'm not jaded by how characters are meant to interact and what powers people are meant to have etc. eg, I've heard Rogue is meant to have different powers, but I dunno. A question on the ending for those who've seen it though, Spoiler (Highlight to Read): What was that shadow above the flooded base with Jean's voice-over?? I assume this is something that happened in the comics already, I don't want to wait however long it is to know. Little help? Spoiler (Highlight to Read): If I'm reading the spoilers correctly, it's forshadowing the Phoenix Saga. In the comics, Jean dies piloting a shuttle back to earth from exposure to cosmic radiation (she was saving the X-men for a Sentinal base in space) and is reborn as a cosmic entity known as Phoenix. Later on in the story, the power drives her mad, and she become Dark Phoenix, and as Dark Phoenix she destroyes and entire world. She later comes to her senses and, during a fight against and intergalatic group of aliens who wnat Phoenix dead, she realises that she will never be able to truly controll the Phoenix power, and she kills herself. that right there is the short version with not a lot of detail, just so you know. Odly enough, in the novelization, Jean is only blinded, not killed. I can't wait to see this movie on Friday now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Grand Pubah of 1620 Report post Posted April 30, 2003 Just got back from the cinema then. And not being a comic book fan, I really enjoyed it anyway. I'm not jaded by how characters are meant to interact and what powers people are meant to have etc. eg, I've heard Rogue is meant to have different powers, but I dunno. A question on the ending for those who've seen it though, Spoiler (Highlight to Read): What was that shadow above the flooded base with Jean's voice-over?? I assume this is something that happened in the comics already, I don't want to wait however long it is to know. Little help? Spoiler (Highlight to Read): If I'm reading the spoilers correctly, it's forshadowing the Phoenix Saga. In the comics, Jean dies piloting a shuttle back to earth from exposure to cosmic radiation (she was saving the X-men for a Sentinal base in space) and is reborn as a cosmic entity known as Phoenix. Later on in the story, the power drives her mad, and she become Dark Phoenix, and as Dark Phoenix she destroyes and entire world. She later comes to her senses and, during a fight against and intergalatic group of aliens who wnat Phoenix dead, she realises that she will never be able to truly controll the Phoenix power, and she kills herself. that right there is the short version with not a lot of detail, just so you know. Odly enough, in the novelization, Jean is only blinded, not killed. I can't wait to see this movie on Friday now. Spoiler (Highlight to Read): But in the Pheonix Saga Jean was never dead. She was just buried at the bottom of the ocean. The clone was the Pheonix, not Jean. Am I right? It's been a while since I read the books. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pochorenella Report post Posted April 30, 2003 Dammit, I'm not reading any of the spoilers, but I'm joining the "silent" conversation first thing tomorrow after I watch the movie. Must...not...read...spoilers... 10pm can't come fast enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pochorenella Report post Posted May 1, 2003 Well, you can know include me in the short list of guys who've seen the movie before opening night. And kane, I gotta agree with you on this one. Cool effects, great characters, a surprisingly good villain, and one hell of a grat movie. One particular line I liked was Mystique response to Nightcrawler's question. Gets you thinking. This isn't some empty-minded movie. It deals with some serious issues. The events at Iceman's house came across really well and I believe they're part of what the movie (and the entire series) is all about. More of my thoughts on the X2 Hype thread. Check 'em if you like. And to answer Johnson1620: You're right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted May 1, 2003 Spoiler (Highlight to Read): Who played Hank McCoy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest KingOfOldSchool Report post Posted May 1, 2003 (edited) Just got back from the cinema then. And not being a comic book fan, I really enjoyed it anyway. I'm not jaded by how characters are meant to interact and what powers people are meant to have etc. eg, I've heard Rogue is meant to have different powers, but I dunno. A question on the ending for those who've seen it though, Spoiler (Highlight to Read): What was that shadow above the flooded base with Jean's voice-over?? I assume this is something that happened in the comics already, I don't want to wait however long it is to know. Little help? Spoiler (Highlight to Read): If I'm reading the spoilers correctly, it's forshadowing the Phoenix Saga. In the comics, Jean dies piloting a shuttle back to earth from exposure to cosmic radiation (she was saving the X-men for a Sentinal base in space) and is reborn as a cosmic entity known as Phoenix. Later on in the story, the power drives her mad, and she become Dark Phoenix, and as Dark Phoenix she destroyes and entire world. She later comes to her senses and, during a fight against and intergalatic group of aliens who wnat Phoenix dead, she realises that she will never be able to truly controll the Phoenix power, and she kills herself. that right there is the short version with not a lot of detail, just so you know. Odly enough, in the novelization, Jean is only blinded, not killed. I can't wait to see this movie on Friday now. Spoiler (Highlight to Read): But in the Pheonix Saga Jean was never dead. She was just buried at the bottom of the ocean. The clone was the Pheonix, not Jean. Am I right? It's been a while since I read the books. Spoiler (Highlight to Read): You are right. But as FoleyDDP said, what he posted was the summarized version, and isn't everything that happens regarding Phoenix in the comics.... but whether he knows that Jean never actually died, I don't know. Edited May 1, 2003 by KingOfOldSchool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest kane3212321 Report post Posted May 1, 2003 In response to Vern Gange Spoiler (Highlight to Read): Steve Bacic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nanks Report post Posted May 1, 2003 In response to all of the replies to my question: Spoiler (Highlight to Read): Strewth!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuna_Firerose 0 Report post Posted May 1, 2003 Apparently, mom earned some free movie tickets at work, which is The Good. The Bad is that we can't see a "new" movie until it's at *least* two weeks old. The time can't go by fast enough. Until then, I'll just watch the silent conversation continue... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lethargic Report post Posted May 1, 2003 I'm glad I finally bought the X-Men 1.5 DVD, it looks like my theater actually does accept the free X2 movie ticket that comes with it. Woo hoo, free movie time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted May 3, 2003 Here's the deal on Jean Grey... answers everything: Spoiler (Highlight to Read): Jean Grey is the younger daughter of John Grey, a history professor at Bard College in New York State, and his wife Elaine. When Jean was ten years old her best friend Annie Richardson was killed by an automobile. Jean's outpouring of emotion as she held her dying friend activated her latent telepathic powers, causing her to experience Annie's own emotions as she died. Traumatized by this experience and unable to control her newly awakened powers, the young Jean became severely withdrawn and depressed. When she was eleven, Jean's parents took her to meet Professor Charles Xavier, who realized she was a mutant and treated her for several years. Xavier erected psychic shields in Jean's mind to prevent her from using her telepathic powers until she had become sufficiently mature to control them, and he taught her how to use her emerging telekinetic abilities. Finally, when Jean was in her middle teens, she joined the X-Men, a group of other young mutants whom Xavier was training in the use of their powers. She assumed the code name Marvel Girl. Jean soon fell in love with her fellow student, Scott Summers, alias Cyclops, but for years they were each too shy to express their feelings for each other. Xavier finally removed the psychic shields from Jean's mind when he was faced with the threat of the alien Z'nox. Since then, she has proved highly adept at using her telepathic powers. Jean left the X-Men shortly after Xavier recruited a second team of students, but continued her romantic relationship with Scott. Shortly afterwards Jean and other X-Men were abducted by Steven Lang's Sentinels to Lang's orbiting space. After defeating Lang the X-Men had to escape back to Earth in a space shuttle through a lethal solar radiation storm. The pilot's cabin lacked sufficient shielding against radiation, but Jean insisted on piloting the craft herself. While she was dying from radiation poisoning, the cosmic entity known as the Phoenix Force appeared to Jean. The Phoenix Force created a body for itself that was identical to Jean's, duplicated her memories and personality, and absorbed a portion of her consciousness. It then guided the X-Men's shuttle to a crash landing in Jamaica Bay off New York City. The Phoenix Force also cast the real Jean into suspended animation within a strange pod that rested on the bottom of Jamaica Bay while slowly healing her. Under the name Phoenix the cosmic being joined the X-Men, who believed it was the real Jean. Months later the X-Men's foe Mastermind began mentally manipulating Phoenix's mind, ultimately brainwashing her into becoming the Black Queen of the sinister Inner Circle of the Hellfire Club. In the process he inadvertently caused Phoenix to turn insane, becoming Dark Phoenix, a danger to the entire cosmos. Ultimately, the portion of Jean's consciousness within Phoenix resurfaced and caused Phoenix to commit suicide rather than wreak further destruction. Upon the death of the Phoenix Force's physical body, the portion of Jean's consciousness it had absorbed returned to Earth and ultimately was reabsorbed by Jean. Eventually the Avengers found the pod in Jamaica Bay and turned it over to the Fantastic Four for study. The real Jean Grey then released herself from the pod, fully healed. She was reunited with Scott and the other original members of the X-Men, and together they founded a new team, the original X-Factor. Later, after Professor Xavier returned from a long sojourn in space with the Starjammers, Jean and the other members of X-Factor rejoined the X-Men. While Jean had been in suspended animation Scott had married Madelyne Pryor, a clone of Jean created by Mister Sinister. Eventually Pryor went mad, developed vast powers, and died in combat with Jean. Some years later, Scott finally married the real Jean Grey. During their honeymoon, however, their spirits were transported two millennia into an alternate future and were placed in new bodies by the Askani cult. Their leader, Rachel Summers, the daughter of the Scott and Jean of an alternate reality, had also served in the X-Men under the name Phoenix. As Slym and Redd, Scott and Jean spent years in that future time, raising Nathan, the son of Scott Summers and Madelyne Pryor, who had earlier been brought to the future. Eventually Scott and Jean returned to their own time and bodies, leaving Nathan in the future to become the heroic warrior Cable. In Rachel's honor Jean adopted the name Phoenix when she returned to the X-Men, and she and Scott remain members of the X-Men to this day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MaxPower27 Report post Posted May 3, 2003 Just got back. Great movie. I prefered it to the first one. More superheroes/villains makes for a longer film. I will be seeing this again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest raptor Report post Posted May 3, 2003 Without the benefit of time or reflection, X-2 is my new favorite movie. I thought everything was flawless, except James Marsden. I'm the exact target audience for this movie, so you know it's a bad sign when even *I* am laughing during the most dramatic scene in the movie. It'll be fun to talk about this after more people have seen it, so I'll just leave it at that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest eiker_ir Report post Posted May 3, 2003 i just watched today and i loved the fucking thing! this time it felt much more like the comic with more characters and action all the time... Nightcrawler was perfect in the movie, i've never really liked him untill tonight... Pyro was pretty cool in the movie and i hope we get a Ice vs. Fire scene in X3 between him and Bobby... the only thing that still bothers me is that they don't pay enough attention to Cyclops, but if they go with the storyline i think they're going for X3, then i'm happy cuz he'll get his opportunity to shiiiine... wooooooo i was marking out all trough the movie with every little reference or cameo, so more points for that! i can't wait for X3!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lethargic Report post Posted May 3, 2003 This is the first movie in a while where I can't find a single thing to complain about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted May 3, 2003 This is the first movie in a while where I can't find a single thing to complain about. That about sums it up for me. It's been a while since I walked out completely satisfied with what I just watched. And while satisfaction is not equated with entertained, it does mean that I was much more than entertained. And that ending? I want X3 tomorrow, damn it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bravesfan Report post Posted May 3, 2003 After coming home from seeing this (packed crowd, too), all I've got to say is: WOW. To anyone who wishes to see it, DO IT NOW. If you're a bit hesitant about seeing it for certain reasons (didn't see the original, glossed over the comics), your fears will be quelled in the opening sequences. A few friends with you will help immensely in the experience, as there are quite a few "mark-out" moments. This summer, I'm going to be forced to live AT the theatre. So many films to want to see (X-2, Matrix, Hulk, The League, etc.), that I'll either die of anticipation or burn a hole in my wallet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest tank_abbott Report post Posted May 3, 2003 The local theathers were sold out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Flyboy Report post Posted May 3, 2003 This is the first movie in a while where I can't find a single thing to complain about. I can complain about Lady Deathstrike and her powers. BULLSHIT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Psycho Diablo Report post Posted May 3, 2003 Flyboy: Spoiler (Highlight to Read): Well, Wolvie got stabbed about ten thousand times and basically no-sold it. One other thing. Did anyone else notice a Stan Lee cameo in there anywhere? I know every other movie has had one.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MaxPower27 Report post Posted May 3, 2003 The local theathers were sold out fandango my friend. Fandango. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuna_Firerose 0 Report post Posted May 3, 2003 For anyone who cares, I found this site with some awesome X-Men and X-2 banners. Which is, of course, where I got [and edited slightly] the new banner in my sig. http://www.tiina.mutualadmiration.net/art/movies.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
