Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted May 7, 2003 That's been done before. What about the other major 3 sports. Who are the locks. Players who could retire today, and make it? Please try to only include active players. This isn't a full list. Football-Rod Woodson, Jerry Rice, Brett Favre Hockey-Steve Yzerman, Brett Hull, Patrick Roy Basketball-Karl Malone, Shaquille O'Neal, Scottie Pippen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zero_Cool Report post Posted May 7, 2003 NFL- Bruce Smith, Emmitt Smith NBA- John Stockton, Reggie Miller, Gary Payton NHL- Mike Modano, Luc Robitaile(sp?), Chris Chelios, Ed Belfour, Jaromir Jagr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest phoenixrising Report post Posted May 7, 2003 NFL - Emmitt Smith, Brett Favre, Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Junior Seau NHL - Patrick Roy, Steve Yzerman NBA - Karl Malone, Shaquille O'Neal, Gary Payton, Reggie Miller Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Slingshot Suplex Report post Posted May 7, 2003 NHL...... Ron Francis,,Joe Sakic,Patrick Roy,Mark Messier,Mike Modano,Brett Hull,Brendan Shanahan,Steve Yzerman,Chris Chelios,Nick Lidstrom,Igor Larionov,Luc Robitaille,Martin Brodeur,Scott Stevens,Brian Leetch, Al MacInnis,Dave Andreychuk,Mats Sundin,Doug Gilmour,Phil Housley,Jaromir Jagr,Ed Belfour, Mike Richter, Tom Barrasso,Claude Lemieux, Peter Forsberg, Maybes.......Pierre Turgeon, Sergei Fedorov, Joe Nieuwendyk, Teemu Selanne,Vincent Damphousse,Eric Lindros, Pavel Bure,Jeremy Roenick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lethargic Report post Posted May 7, 2003 So....nobody thinks that Jordan is a lock yet? haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alkeiper Report post Posted May 7, 2003 NBA- Jordan, Pippen, Malone, Stockton, O'Neal, Miller, David Robinson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChris Report post Posted May 7, 2003 NHL...... Ron Francis,,Joe Sakic,Patrick Roy,Mark Messier,Mike Modano,Brett Hull,Brendan Shanahan,Steve Yzerman,Chris Chelios,Nick Lidstrom,Igor Larionov,Luc Robitaille,Martin Brodeur,Scott Stevens,Brian Leetch, Al MacInnis,Dave Andreychuk,Mats Sundin,Doug Gilmour,Phil Housley,Jaromir Jagr,Ed Belfour, Mike Richter, Tom Barrasso,Claude Lemieux, Peter Forsberg, Maybes.......Pierre Turgeon, Sergei Fedorov, Joe Nieuwendyk, Teemu Selanne,Vincent Damphousse,Eric Lindros, Pavel Bure,Jeremy Roenick Yikes...Richter, Barrasso, Lemieux, Turgeon, Housley, Nieuwendyk, Roenick and Lindros don't belong anywhere near this list. It's the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Pretty Good Players. Sundin, Belfour and Bure aren't there yet either. Football - Jerry Rice, Bruce Smith, Tim Brown, Emmitt Smith, Junior Seau, Brett Favre, Rod Woodson, Shannon Sharpe, maybe Marshall Faulk Hockey - Steve Yzerman, Sergei Fedorov, Brett Hull, Patrick Roy, Joe Sakic, Peter Forsberg, Martin Brodeur, Chris Chelios, Mark Messier, Al MacInnis, Jaromir Jagr Basketball - Karl Malone, Scottie Pippen, Shaquille O'Neal, Reggie Miller, David Robinson, Jordan and Stockton of course, probably Gary Payton, and (*flak jacket on*) Kobe Bryant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest starvenger Report post Posted May 7, 2003 Nice to see some love for Dave Andreychuk. None of his goals were pretty, but the guy's got around 600 (mostly from about 2-3 feet out) so that should count for something. Sure things in the NHL: Patrick Roy, Steve Yzerman, Mike Modano, Mark Messier, Brett Hull, Al Macinnis, Igor Larionov and Chris Chelios. Andy Van Hellemond as well, if he's not already in. Marty Brodeur WILL be there, but it's way too soon to be thinking HHoF for him. I'd also nominate Kerry Fraser's hair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Bricks Report post Posted May 7, 2003 Basketball - Michael Jordan, Shaquille O'Neal, Karl Malone, John Stockton, Scottie Pippen, Gary Payton, Reggie Miller, David Robinson, Jason Kidd, Arvydas Sabonis (International play does come under consideration), Tim Duncan, and Allen Iverson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Slingshot Suplex Report post Posted May 7, 2003 NHL...... Ron Francis,,Joe Sakic,Patrick Roy,Mark Messier,Mike Modano,Brett Hull,Brendan Shanahan,Steve Yzerman,Chris Chelios,Nick Lidstrom,Igor Larionov,Luc Robitaille,Martin Brodeur,Scott Stevens,Brian Leetch, Al MacInnis,Dave Andreychuk,Mats Sundin,Doug Gilmour,Phil Housley,Jaromir Jagr,Ed Belfour, Mike Richter, Tom Barrasso,Claude Lemieux, Peter Forsberg, Maybes.......Pierre Turgeon, Sergei Fedorov, Joe Nieuwendyk, Teemu Selanne,Vincent Damphousse,Eric Lindros, Pavel Bure,Jeremy Roenick Yikes...Richter, Barrasso, Lemieux, Turgeon, Housley, Nieuwendyk, Roenick and Lindros don't belong anywhere near this list. It's the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Pretty Good Players. Sundin, Belfour and Bure aren't there yet either. Yeah,I got carried away. I do think a couple of them will sneak in though. I was in the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted May 7, 2003 Yikes...Richter, Barrasso, Lemieux, Turgeon, Housley, Nieuwendyk, Roenick and Lindros don't belong anywhere near this list. It's the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Pretty Good Players. Phil Housley-894 career assists. 15th All time, and 5th amongst defensmen. Pierre Turgeon-1234 career points. 480 career goals.Should reach 500 goals. Joe Nieunwendyk-500 goals scored. Every player eligible with 500 goals is in the HOF. Keep in mind that players don't score has many points has they once did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B. Brian Brunzell 0 Report post Posted May 7, 2003 Damn, Nieuwendyk has 500 goals? I never thought it was that high. Joey is the man though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Slingshot Suplex Report post Posted May 7, 2003 Yeah ,I think he got there early this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Slingshot Suplex Report post Posted May 7, 2003 Barrasso might make it based on his Calder trophy and 2 Cups with Pittsburgh. I could see him not as well. Claude Lemieux might..might get in based on his playoff performance. He's a longshot but isn't he 2nd in career playoff game winners? Richter has over 300 career wins so I figured he has a shot and Belfour has somewhere around 400. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted May 7, 2003 It seems like the Hockey Hall of Fame isn't has difficult to be elected than the other 3 sports. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChris Report post Posted May 7, 2003 Barrasso has no shot. He's the very definition of "journeyman goalie." It's not like he didn't have help winning those two Cups either...that Lemieux guy had a bit to do with that. Of the current NHL goalies, Roy is a lock, Brodeur is nearly a lock (needs to play a few more years) and Belfour is probable, but not definite. Consider this: besides Grant Fuhr (who will almost certainly be inducted this year), the only regular NHL goalie who's played in the last 20 years in the Hall of Fame is Billy Smith (Tretiak is there as well). It's not easy to be a Hall of Fame goalie. And is it me, or has Turgeon scored the quietest 1234 points of all time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted May 8, 2003 Well, how many points did Mike Gartner end up with? The fact that he has 700+ goals probably surprises a lot of people. And, if Belfour wants to get in, he needs to end his career with a few more years like he had this past one and win another Cup or 2 (or 4) before he retires. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nl5xsk1 Report post Posted May 8, 2003 It seems like the Hockey Hall of Fame isn't has difficult to be elected than the other 3 sports. Doesn't hockey have a rule where only a certain number of players can make it each year? (I think it's 4 or 5) If so, a lot of these players will have to wait to get elected, and some have no chance: Richter, Belfour (unless he plays 3-4 more good years), C. Lemieux, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted May 8, 2003 It seems like the Hockey Hall of Fame isn't has difficult to be elected than the other 3 sports. Doesn't hockey have a rule where only a certain number of players can make it each year? (I think it's 4 or 5) If so, a lot of these players will have to wait to get elected, and some have no chance: Richter, Belfour (unless he plays 3-4 more good years), C. Lemieux, etc. For Hockey how many years are you eligible, before your taken off the list? If it's like Baseball, you have 15 years. I'd be willing to bet that Ed Belfour would eventually get in, even if he never played again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Bricks Report post Posted May 8, 2003 It seems like the Hockey Hall of Fame isn't has difficult to be elected than the other 3 sports. Doesn't hockey have a rule where only a certain number of players can make it each year? (I think it's 4 or 5) If so, a lot of these players will have to wait to get elected, and some have no chance: Richter, Belfour (unless he plays 3-4 more good years), C. Lemieux, etc. I might be wrong, but I think the rule is a MINIMUM of 4 getting in. So if there's only 3 sure things a borderline player, then the borderline player has a chance to get in. Anyways, I think Belfour was a lock even before this season. But that's just me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nl5xsk1 Report post Posted May 9, 2003 I just looked it up - the Hockey Hall of Fame has both a maximum of 4 players per year, but if less than 4 get the necessary 75% of the votes they do follow-up ballots until they get to 4. If this doesn't work then they just accept that less than 4 are going in that year. And people like Claude and Eddie the Eagle might not make it due to one of the by-laws: Playing ability, sportsmanship, character and their contribution to the team or teams and to the game of hockey in general. I don't think that either Eddie or Claude fit the bill if they're looking for things like CHARACTER or SPORTSMANSHIP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest evilhomer Report post Posted May 10, 2003 I'd also nominate Kerry Fraser's hair. I'd vote for that. Of course only if it was skalped off of his still alive skull. NBA- Jordan, O'Neal, Malone, Stockton NFL - Favre, Rice, Emmitt Smith NHL - Yzerman, Roy, Jagr, Chelios, Housley, Gilmour, Francis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Slingshot Suplex Report post Posted May 10, 2003 and I forgot Adam Oates Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Slingshot Suplex Report post Posted May 10, 2003 tc--------Mike Gartner finished with 1432 games 708 goals 627 assists 1335 points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HurriShane 0 Report post Posted May 10, 2003 NBA- Jordan, Malone, Stockton, Robinson, Shaq, Kobe, Duncan NFL-Favre, Emmitt, Tim Brown, Rice, Seau MLB- Bonds, Sosa, Arod, Maddux, Clemens Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted May 10, 2003 NBA- Jordan, Malone, Stockton, Robinson, Shaq, Kobe, Duncan NFL-Favre, Emmitt, Tim Brown, Rice, Seau MLB- Bonds, Sosa, Arod, Maddux, Clemens How is A-Rod a Lock RIGHT now? 300+ Homers is nice and his stats are amazing but Not HOF worthy yet... Duncan and Kobe are still too young haven't had HOF carrers JUST yet... Baseball ------------ Barry Bonds Roger Clemens Randy Johnson Greg Maddux Tom Glavine Sammy Sosa Rafeal Palamerio Basketball ----------------- Shaq Malone Stockon Jordan Robinson Reggie Miller Gary Payton Football ------------------ Brett Favre Emmitt Smith Junior Seau Jerry Rice Tim Brown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted May 11, 2003 tc--------Mike Gartner finished with 1432 games 708 goals 627 assists 1335 points. Yeah, I'd say that Gartner flew under the radar more than Turgeon has so far. Gartner was never really seen as a top flight player, while Turgeon has, at some times more than others, been looked at as a superstar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted May 11, 2003 How many more productive year would these players need to have to be locks. Ray Lewis, Warren Sapp, Derrick Brooks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted May 11, 2003 Sapp could get with one more stellar season because of his past and his name value... Lewis and Brooks arent there yet... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted May 11, 2003 I think Lewis could get there more than Sapp. Sapp hasn't been all that productive over a long period of time, mainly over 2 years (1999 and 2000). Lewis is a tough motherfucker and practically his Super Bowl win came on defense and defense alone (Yes while the same could be said for Tampa Bay's 2003 win, Tampa Bay's Offense > Baltimore's Offense). And also part of the reason the Bucs D is so good is the scheme as well as the team contribution, Lewis practically carried (and probably will still carry to an extent) the Raven D. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
