The one and only draft thread

[Guest Some Guy]

"i say you guys should be pleased... no more steph (At least for a while)

 

leading me to believe that Shane's coming back"  

 

Which leads me to believe that they'll both back with in a month.  Steph can't keep her self off TV and what ever she touches when she's on turns to shit (Jericho/HHH and ECW come to mind).  Shane has been off long enough that a few fans might miss him and his dumbass dancing.  I vote that all McMahons leave the show for at least a year.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

I miss his dumbass dancing.

 

Well...at the very least Shane puts in some good ppv performances.

[Guest]

Raw has a horrible roster. Please don't tell me Big Bossman will be a midcarder on that show. I can't believe he was even picked. The only people worth seeing on Raw are D'lo, Booker T, RVD, and Brock Lesnar. The rest are useless.

[Guest teke184]

BoboBrazil,

 

That's the same as my list, except I think that Molly is decent, too.

 

All the rest can be crushed to build up Lesnar for all I care.

[Guest Some Guy]

"Well...at the very least Shane puts in some good ppv performances"

 

Yes he did, his match against Angle at KOTR was just brutal.

 

I don't however miss his shadow boxing, bad looking punches, potatoe punches (why didn't he get heat for them like RVD did, Oh Yeah he's the bosses kid), weak clothelines, goofy jumping chairshots, stupid poems, "which way did he go", him showing up the real wrestlers, being booked into the PPV matches in the first place (especially him & Booker vs. Rock), and most of all his DUMBASS DANCING. I'm not a big Shane O Mac fan in case u couldn't tell.

[Guest]

Pros: Jericho on Smackdown, RVD on Raw....

Cons: Rikishi on Smackdown, everything else on RAW

 

This sucks ass. But it looks like I'm going to have to be watching Smackdown! now....Good lord I hope there's some trades soon...

 

Kane & Big Show vs. the nWo...SHOOT ME NOW!!!!!!

 

Rock vs. Y2J, Kurt Angle vs. Chris Benoit on Smackdown....The possibilities people, the possibilities! Now let's hope Rikishi busts another eardrum, and Smackdown! will be the thing to watch...

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

while i'm not a shane fan i'd rather him be on tv than stephanie. god i pray shane is the one in charge of the company when vince croaks.

[Guest Some Guy]

I never said I liked Steph better, actually I dislike her more than Shane.  She is even more self-serving, annoying, and worthless than he is.

 

When Vince croaks WWF is in trouble unless his kids learn what's good for business and stop being marks for themselves.  But Vince still ahsn't stopped being a mark for himself and he generally forgets what's right for business, so I don't like WWF's chances.

[Guest teke184]

Some Guy, you are DEFINATELY not alone.  I was sick of Shane's shit around KOTR 2001 when he insisted on being thrown through two plate-glass windows and I was outright ENRAGED when I went to RAW in October and he was in the main event against Angle.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

i'm thinking that when vince croaks the wwf will fail in a year tops, and wrestling will go back to the days of territorys unless someone swoops in and picks up the pieces.

[Guest goodhelmet]

We can all thank God or whatever diety you worship that both of the McMahon kids are gone for the time being. Anyone who misses Shan should go watch some of his promos (and dancing)  from the Invasion era. Then you will remember why you were happy he left as well.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

ten bucks says shane's on smackdown

[Guest Vyce]

Jesus Christ, is this disappointing.

 

I'm serious....if they don't trade, NOW.....God, I'm depressed by this.  Silly me, I thought RAW might actually be watchable.  Silly me again, I thought they might actually put WRESTLERS on there.  Instead I get fucking Bossman and Big Show.

 

I swear, if they don't trade someone to get Benoit on RAW, it may finally be time to give up the WWF.  I'm so very, very close.....puro, here I come....

[Guest Some Guy]

For true Shane haters I guide you to the KOTR 2001 DVD.  During his "match commentary" he is weaving in and out on Kayfabe so much it's crazy.  He basically made himself sound like the toughest guy in the world and talked about all the respect the boys have for him and how he never even thought about quiting despite being seriously injured.  He at some points discusses that match like it was a shoot saying that he needed to get Angle out of his element and make it more of a street fight.  Plus he say "WHAM" and "BAM" for every weapons shot like it's a God damn Batman re-run.

 

Angle spent his whole commentary puttind Shane over BTW, which pissed me off even more.

On Angle's

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

when Vince picked rikishi and flair picked big show i almost had a heart attack. i'm not kidding. i was looking at their eyes to see if they were stoned.

[Guest goodhelmet]

i got this from 411. Here is the complete draft:

The WWF talent draft for the RAW & Smackdown brands has been completed. Here are the official rosters:

 

SMACKDOWN (Vince McMahon)

1. The Rock

2. Kurt Angle

3. Chris Benoit

4. Hulk Hogan

5. Billy & Chuck

6. Edge

7. Rikishi

8. D-Von Dudley

9. Mark Henry

10. Maven

11. Billy Kidman

12. Tajiri

13. Chris Jericho

14. Ivory

15. Albert

16. The Hurricane

17. Al Snow

18. Lance Storm

19. DDP

20. Torrie Wilson

21. Scotty 2 Hotty

22. Stacy Keibler

23. Christian

24. Test

25. Faarooq

26. Tazz

27. Hardcore Holly

28. The Big Valbowski

29. Saturn

30. No Pick

 

RAW (Ric Flair)

1. The Undertaker

2. nWo (Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, X-Pac)

3. Kane

4. Rob Van Dam

5. Booker T.

6. The Big Show

7. Bubba Ray Dudley

8. Brock Lesnar

9. William Regal

10. Lita

11. Bradshaw

12. Steven Richards

13. Matt Hardy

14. Raven

15. Jeff Hardy

16. Mr.Perfect

17. Spike Dudley

18. D-Lo Brown

19. Shawn Stasiak

20. Terri

21. Jacqueline

22. Goldust

23. Trish Stratus

24. Justin Credible

25. Big Boss Man

26. Tommy Dreamer

27. Crash Holly

28. Molly Holly

29. No Pick

30. No Pick

 

Note: The reason that the Smackdown brand did not have an official 30th pick is due to the Billy & Chuck being drafted with one pick, thus giving the Smackdown roster 30 wrestlers. The reason the RAW brand did not have a 29th and 30th pick is due to Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, and X-Pac (nWo) being selected with one pick, thus giving the RAW roster 30 wrestlers.

 

The split will go into effect on 4/1 (next Monday's RAW). This week's Smackdown will be the final WWF show to feature talent from the entire talent roster.

 

Again, Steve Austin is being labeled as a "free agent" and will be able to "sign" with either the RAW or Smackdown brand.

 

Triple H, being the WWF Undisputed Champion, and Jazz, being the WWF Women's Champion, will be able to appear on both shows.

[Guest Sakura]

Anyone who misses Shan should go watch some of his promos (and dancing)  from the Invasion era. Then you will remember why you were happy he left as well.

 

 

 

I wasn't happy when he left. Shane is god. I want to marry him.

 

Steph being gone will suck. I still have Kurt and Christian though....

[Guest goodhelmet]

Either you are being sarcastic or are applying for a job with WWFE

[Guest dreamer420]

I like Shane in the WWF.  He can wrestle the occasional good match, he plays a pretty bad guy on TV, and is much better to watch than Vince now.

 

I say take Vince off TV and let Shane and Stephanie get some TV time in (preferably not together)

[Guest muzanisa]

I still think Steph will get the Woman's belt on Smackdown.

Shane I could really do without.

[Guest Sakura]

Either you are being sarcastic or are applying for a job with WWFE

 

 

Nope. I know it's hard to believe, but not everyone hates the Mcmahons.

[Guest muzanisa]

Okay as it stands now Heel/face wise

 

 

1. The Undertaker

2. nWo

Scott Hall,

Kevin Nash,

X-Pac

5. Booker T.

7. Bubba Ray Dudley

8. Brock Lesnar

9. William Regal

12. Steven Richards

14. Raven

16. Mr.Perfect

19. Shawn Stasiak

22. Goldust

24. Justin Credible

25. Big Boss Man

 

 

3. Kane

4. Rob Van Dam                            

6. The Big Show

11. Bradshaw

13. Matt Hardy

15. Jeff Hardy

17. Spike Dudley

18. D-Lo Brown

26. Tommy Dreamer

27. Crash Holly

 

10. Lita

20. Terri

21. Jacqueline

23. Trish Stratus

28. Molly Holly

 

Presumably they will feud the NWO, Hardy's. Noone wants to see Kane Undertaker again. Booker could turn face and RVD as it stands will be your top face. That's a reasonably impressive heel roster but a really weak face line up especially if Brock is going to be fed for the Monster push.

HHH is a face so He'll get top heel the Undertaker.

NWO outside tags could have a face Booker and RVD feud.

Big Show could get another push I suppose and Bradshaw seems to have been lined up for one for a long time and might be funny against Regal. Austin If he comes back has the NWO,Undertaker, Lesnar, Regal and possibly  Perfect.

It's pretty weak and looking at it I'm going for trades on Smackdown.

[Guest muzanisa]

Sakura I think that both Shane and Steph are suffering from Eric Watts syndrome and need to be off screen for a long time. As it stands Shane could come back in a while and have the Hogan effect where people forget that he's annoying. The last time Hogan was in the WWF he was getting booed at house shows.

Steph might be at the Warrior stage where the scales fall from peoples eyes and they never want to see them again.

They had an angle to get rid of her; which acknowledges that they understand that some people want her to go.

If they are going to use them (which they are) have them on Jakked/Metal build them on Heat and then if they warrant it put them on the big shows but don't give them half the shows plus complete recaps week after week.

[Guest Mystery Eskimo]

My predicition- Steph comes back in about a week on Smackdown. Shane appears on Raw.

 

I really hope some more people are going to be called up, especially to Raw.

[Guest TheHulkster]

You figure, where would the major advertising $$$ come from? A cable show or a network prime time television show? Network television has a MUCH larger base than cable so its more possible for a significant increase in viewers, thus, advertisers are willing to shell out big money to get their spots on smackdown. You also have to take into account 2 of the biggest names in pro wrestling, Triple H and Stone Cold Steve Austin. Where do you think Triple H will end up when he drops the strap? On raw. Once Austin comes back, where do you think he will end up? On Raw. That evens it out as far as big name talent is concerned. Smackdown, having Hogan and Rock, draws mainstream appeal. Austin and Triple H leaves Raw with legs to stand on. Its a sound strategy if you think about it.

[Guest Vern Gagne]

The Torch said the this won't be the final rosters.

 

Here's a trade I'd like to see.

Undertaker and the NWO for Jericho, Benoit, and Angle.

[Guest Cataclysm911]

I'd rather see Rikishi for RVD, then I can just not watch RAW.

 

Of course, I have to travel for over an hour to a friends house to watch Smackdown.

[Guest muzanisa]

On the Raw roster I want to watch

RVD,Lesnar, Regal,Richards with a new or old gimmick,Raven,Perfect (if he can be bothered) and Booker T.

Indifferent to Bubba Ray, Goldust, Justin Credible,Spike, Bradshaw,D-lo, Tommy, The Hardys and the Females. They could all change my mind.

Don't want to see Undertaker, NWO,Stasiak, Boss Man,Show,Crash.

If UT and NWO are traded the 4 guys I want in are Jericho, Storm (To reform the Impact players and feud with the Hardys),Benoit and D'Von.

[Guest MARTYEWR]

I went to sleep pretty much right after Raw and I was thinking about how Vince has most of the workrate contingent. But then I was thinking, what if he really made Flair look foolish with the following trade (from the top 20 picks):

- To Flair: Hogan, Henry, Billy & Chuck, D-Von

- To Vince: RVD, Booker, Regal, Lesner

Then the Top 10 for each would look like:

 

Raw:

- Undertaker

- nWo

- Kane

- Hollywood Hogan

- Billy & Chuck

- Big Show

- Bubba Ray Dudley

- D-Von Dudley

- Mark Henry

- Lita

 

Smackdown:

- The Rock

- Kurt Angle

- Chris Benoit

- Rob Van Dam

- Booker T

- Edge

- Rikishi

- Brock Lesner

- William Regal

- Maven

 

Gee, what show would us smarks really rather see now?

[Guest MarvinisaLunatic]

Im trying to figure out why Chris Benoit was drafted considering hes not supposed to be back for 2 months at least.  And why did D Lo get drafted in the lottery, he hasnt been on tv in for so long most of the current wwf fans probably dont even remember him.  I suppose he could be coming back, but it seems like every other week hes supposed to be coming back.

 

Also, Raven could have a flock again : Dreamer, Richards and Stasiak.  

 

Did anyone not get drafted?  I was sort of thinking what happened to Funaki or maybe no one cares about Funaki.

 

Overall, I think that both shows have their pros and cons, but I think that RAW is going to suffer from not having the Rock on the show ratings wise like it did when the Rock was off being a movie star. So Vince had better handle Austin's personal situation carefully and have him on RAW.

 

On a bright note, this will cut out about 15 minutes of recaping the previous show (Recap of Smackdown on RAW or RAW on Smackdown), which equals 2 more matches.  I still want to see how they work out heat/metal/jakked/excess and Im even more curious about the PPVs..