Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted May 29, 2003 Hey, I never said I was the best. I'm still very new at this you know. I'm constantly trying to improve as well. In all honesty, I don't think I'm that good at all. Dames don't let the negative vibes discourage you. your recaps are more thorough and well-written than almost anything SK has written. hyatte actually dissected SK and his book a few columns back... and you know what... he was right on almost all accounts. SK is someone who doesn't have a college education or a degree in literature or the english language; he doesn't have any inside sources and basically no credentials to write a book on wrestling HISTORY. his sole inspiration for writing is because his old english teachers (in canada!) told him he was a good writer. as for his current rants, i honestly don't blame him for not putting the time and effort into the current wwe product. if the wwe doesn't give a shit about the product, why should he? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted May 29, 2003 I think that my two RAW reviews over at SmarkTalk stand as the greatest show recapping in the history of mankind. Of course one of them was deleted by ALina... but still. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted May 29, 2003 Tape reviews are hard... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest My Eyebrow is on fire Report post Posted May 29, 2003 SK's resentment from the whole internet stems from a basic arguing principle. Rule 1 - To humbly disagree with your opponent is civil and acceptable. Rule 1b - To unapologetically disagree with your opponent can be perceived as rude, yet is acceptable. Rule 1c - To disagree with your opponent and call his opinion idiotic is rude and obnoxious. It's arguably unacceptable. Nobody would hate SK for his negative opinions if he wasn't so over-the-top with them. However, that's what makes him more entertaining than, say, Dames (who's one sweet and proper chap 99.9% of the time). Furthermore I... (notices he's in the flaming folder) ANYONE WHO DOESN'T LIK SCOT KIECH'S ARTICELS IS A GAY SACK LICKER U ALL R GAAAAAAAAAAAY LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest treble charged Report post Posted May 29, 2003 Hey, I never said I was the best. I'm still very new at this you know. I'm constantly trying to improve as well. In all honesty, I don't think I'm that good at all. Dames don't let the negative vibes discourage you. your recaps are more thorough and well-written than almost anything SK has written. hyatte actually dissected SK and his book a few columns back... and you know what... he was right on almost all accounts. SK is someone who doesn't have a college education or a degree in literature or the english language; he doesn't have any inside sources and basically no credentials to write a book on wrestling HISTORY. his sole inspiration for writing is because his old english teachers (in canada!) told him he was a good writer. With all that being said, if tomorrow he e-mailed you and told you he was going to quit 411 and wanted to come write for TSM, would you turn him down (with all the traffic he would bring)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest HellSpawn Report post Posted May 29, 2003 His older reviews are much better. He seems to lost interest in the product, which is fine for a fan but not really fine for a reviewer. If the basketball season sucks, the announcers can't stop paying attention to the games. niko Agreed. Lately every single thing is bad, and when Benoit or some of "his boys", didnt get a good match or it didnt boost the ratings, its not his fault its another person. For example, and I know you hate both, but... He gave some Hot pokers to Steph because she and HHH meet preview to HHH match in JD. Just because they meet and talk... Now, the Torch comented that this segment could be a seed for a new angle, but of course, thinking about the future only counts when involves someone He like. Yeah, he is funny, but the hatred is not profesionnal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted May 29, 2003 for treble charged... honestly, yes. dames and i already had this discussion. the goal is definitely to gather more hits but more importantly MY original goal in accepting apps and being a part of the website was to see NEW writers get exposure and grow as writers. honestly, i love commentary on wrestling. i am addicted to reading it. i love to read different points of view, criticism, humor, and things that make a brother go hmmmm. SK does not offer me any of these things. if i need to get the 411 on SD, i go to dr. tom. Raw-JHawk, PPV's and NWA- Dames. They put more effort and quality in their work than SK has in the last two-three years. i gain much more satsifaction knowing that NEW and better writers, who didn't have the luxury or exposure of being around during wrestling's boom in the late 90's, are gathering an audience. seriously, how many writers from wrestleline were really worth a shit? look at brandon truitt. compare his Bret Hart #2 shoot interview recap to SK's. It isn't even close when determining who put more effort (and is a better read) into it. As Dames wrote in the TSM 1 year anniversary column... "Every month, our numbers increase. Every month, more readers are finding TSM and that we are one of the best sites on the internet for weekly TV recaps and opinions. But that doesn’t mean that we are getting complacent." SK doesn't fit into those plans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted May 29, 2003 Does Scott Keith have an actual job or is writing reviews how he makes a living? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Black Tiger Report post Posted May 29, 2003 SK used to mention his job in his older rants, but nothing lately. Considering how much free time the man must have on his hands for tape reviews, DVD reviews, and TV recaps he either works in retail, or he's not working. I can't stand his WWE rants anymore, each one is basically the same. I do enjoy his DVD reviews and his non WWE wrestling reviews (RoH, and Puro) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted May 30, 2003 but tiger, justin and jhawk write far better ROH reviews than he does. he is pretty ignorant on the topic of puro and throws stars out of nowhere. i would say he is batting at about .100 right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted May 30, 2003 In his SD! review Keith basically decided that Pedro's tag title reign didn't count. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vern Gagne Report post Posted May 30, 2003 In Keith's defense. He said many don't consider the Morales title reign as legit and he was saying the conservative answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mach7 Report post Posted May 30, 2003 In Keith's defense. He said many don't consider the Morales title reign as legit and he was saying the conservative answer. In other words, "blah blah blah, blahblahblahblah." The man can't even cover his ass properly when he makes a mistake. "Many don't consider." Who's the many? Not me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest saturnmark4life Report post Posted May 30, 2003 Yeah, his latest stuff has been pedestrian but I don't really have a problem with him. Course, I don't give enough of a shit about wrestling anymore to seek out more 'objective' reviews. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BionicRedneck Report post Posted May 30, 2003 Scott Keith's fat, too. That is all... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest My Eyebrow is on fire Report post Posted May 30, 2003 In Keith's defense. He said many don't consider the Morales title reign as legit and he was saying the conservative answer. In other words, "blah blah blah, blahblahblahblah." The man can't even cover his ass properly when he makes a mistake. "Many don't consider." Who's the many? Not me. How did I know this whiney little fuck face would keep mouthing off like a silly cunt? SK had prior knowledge and was aware of the Pedro Morales reign and contested it. You on the other hand were not aware of this historical complication and chose to label SK an idiot Well you're the idiot. . Just admit you were wrong. An assumptive, jealous shithead just looking for an opportunity to bash a successful writer because you're unhappy with your pathetic life. Look at how sorry you are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Black Tiger Report post Posted May 31, 2003 but tiger, justin and jhawk write far better ROH reviews than he does. You know what's really ironic. RFVideo was pimping 411 a couple weeks ago for RoH reviews. You know which RoH reviewers they were pimping... JUSTIN AND ME! Baisden has used every nasty term there is to describe his opinion of RFVideo and my review of Night of Butcher was my introduction to the fed. But he didn't even bring up SK at all, and he generates the most traffic to 411. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted May 31, 2003 HE GOT A DAMN FACT WRONG. GLADYS- GET THE PITCHFORCK! LET'S LYNCH THE BASTARD! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bob_barron Report post Posted May 31, 2003 but tiger, justin and jhawk write far better ROH reviews than he does. You know what's really ironic. RFVideo was pimping 411 a couple weeks ago for RoH reviews. You know which RoH reviewers they were pimping... JUSTIN AND ME! Baisden has used every nasty term there is to describe his opinion of RFVideo and my review of Night of Butcher was my introduction to the fed. But he didn't even bring up SK at all, and he generates the most traffic to 411. Hey Tiger- How did you get free ROH tapes? I emailed them and got nothing. Any tips? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Decadent Slacker Report post Posted May 31, 2003 Scott Keith is the IWC version of crotchrot. It's not that he got a fact wrong, imo, because hell who gives a shit? No, i don't like his expert on everything stance (we all remember the alcohol/addiction debacle). Besides, the fat fuck drinks hard lemonade. Make of that what you will. I say we agree to disagree, & those who hate the great white whale can mailbomb him or something. Problem solved. Now where's the Tylenol? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted May 31, 2003 HE GOT A DAMN FACT WRONG. GLADYS- GET THE PITCHFORCK! LET'S LYNCH THE BASTARD! it isn't just about him getting facts wrong... it is about him trying every way known to man to get around admitting he is wrong. his hubris is unsettling for someone so fat and so ugly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted May 31, 2003 He got a fact wrong...WHILE CRITICIZING SOMEONE ELSE FOR GETTING...get this...THE SAME FACT WRONG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Psycho Diablo Report post Posted May 31, 2003 Since when does someone's appearance have to do with their written content? Seesh, guys..find some real arguments, or get off it. Yeah, there are better reviewers (a lot of 'em visit this board, or are regular members), but if you're going to bash the hell out of someone, use a GOOD REASON. I'm sure a lot of you have been wrong sometime, too..and I know how bad people are about admitting that they're wrong. It's not just SK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted May 31, 2003 Don't make me repeat my last post to point out the absolute absurdity even further. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest subliminal_animal Report post Posted May 31, 2003 For anyone that hates Scott Keith, take solace in the fact that he's fat and ugly and probably not totally happy with life and even if he get less fat with a diet and gym membership he'll still be ugly unless he's on Extreme Makeover or something but I don't think they do Canada anyways so like I said take solace my brothers. Because when you go out of your way to be an ass and correct something an announcer says, you need to make sure you're actually right. Otherwise you look like a complete ass, like someone who corrects someone else's typos but doesn't capitalize correctly. You know what I'm saying? Anyway, Scott Keith does a lot of things I don't like so I don't read him. I was gonna criticize the original poster as someone who needs to check the hate at the door and maybe raffle it as a door prize, but man here makes a good point. Niko, I wasn't referring to SK's general critics. I'm talking about the mindless drones who viciously bash him whenever he makes a minor error. They obviously have an agenda. They hate him and want to cut him down. It's not the fucking Illuminati, buddy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mach7 Report post Posted June 2, 2003 How did I know this whiney little fuck face would keep mouthing off like a silly cunt? SK had prior knowledge and was aware of the Pedro Morales reign and contested it. You on the other hand were not aware of this historical complication and chose to label SK an idiot Well you're the idiot. . Just admit you were wrong. An assumptive, jealous shithead just looking for an opportunity to bash a successful writer because you're unhappy with your pathetic life. Look at how sorry you are. Just because I choose not to accept this so-called "historical complication" [OR SK's contesting of it] doesn't mean I didn't know about it in the first place. --- As for your problem with me "mouthing off" ... what the fuck are you going to do about it? Continue with your grade two attempts to flame me? Oooh, please noooo. What ever will I do? I mean, just because your last attempt at a thread dedicated to flaming me failed miserably -- or even the fact that you didn't have the balls to call me out personally on this thread in your original post -- doesn't mean you have to get your panties in a knot. So, what's your damage? You feel the need to join this forum and, in true wanker form, troll around looking for fights to start? When was there ever a time when you haven't antagonized someone in any of your threads or replies? I'd say that you should be banned for all the crap you've pulled, but then I think it would be much more satisfying to see you leave of your own volition when you finally realize that your contributions to this forum are as useless as the life you lead outside of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mach7 Report post Posted June 2, 2003 I was gonna criticize the original poster as someone who needs to check the hate at the door and maybe raffle it as a door prize, but man here makes a good point. Criticize away. But this has nothing to do with hate. Why waste my time on hating someone I don't even know? I just think he's a dumbass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites