Can you BELIEVE THIS SHIT!?

[Guest BANKYWOOD]

Where is Angle-Plex? Or is he some inside joke gimmick poster I haven't caught on to.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

you know agnes. he doesn't post much anymore since he's in University.

 

he posted at UGS all the time. i'm pretty sure you and he were in the chat at the same time a few times.

[The Dames 0]

Trust me, the LAST thing I want to do is be another SK.  I want to avoid that type of a situation as much as possible. 

 

Dames

I'm a bit in the dark about this boards early days, what did SK do?

This is taken from the "Eliminate The Post Counts?" thread in Site Feedback. Sassquatch tells us of the Dark Age:

 

"As someone who's really only been around since this place became TheSmartMarks instead of TheSmarks, someone want to explain the whole situation? From what I gather, there were moderating abuses, people left and formed WDI in protest, and then it became TSM."

 

The Porno and Flaming folders at the old Smarks EZ Board were where most of the posters that make up WDI and SNKT all hung out. They were like these two giant General Chat folders where everyone had a good time.

 

But there was a poster there named Maurizcio C who was supposedly from Italy and typed of his posts with a bad "a" after almost every word. He had bad blood with many of the posters in the Flaming folder as well as almost everyone else on the board who ever encountered him.

 

One day Maurizcio C complained to Don Becker that the cliques in the Flaming folder and Porno folder (namely the Inner Circle which was the first clique to kick off the clique wars) were getting out of hand as well as taking their frustrations out on him in the other folders (which was over exaggerated by Murizcio). Don Becker then made the famous comment "posting cliques are gay" which spawned the gPc or gay Posting clique.

 

This comment created a monster as cliques on the board sprung almost over night with one of the most notable being Team Havoc which was led by the genius who was a legendary troll at both the Smarks EZ Board as well as WDI who has not been seen since being banned at WDI over a year ago.

 

Time went on and for the most part, things were good at the board.

 

But soon post whoring at the board had reached ridiculous levels of utter tripe. Maurizcio had managed to post 250 times in a single day which led to many people complaining about how Maurizcio was ruining the board. But Maurizcio struck back in time before anything punishment could be handed out and accused the posters in the Flaming folders of being the people who were ruining the board. Both sides tangled with one another until 12/07/01 came:

 

Jeremy Botter, the board’s website admin and designer, took away post counts and customized avatar settings which Keith had told him to do in response to the bickering amongst the posters.

 

This announcement made by Keith opened a can of worms that probably wishes he to this day he would have never opened.

 

Keith told anyone who asked why the settings were removed or ask for them back would be banned. The first causality in this mess was a poster by the name of Witty Banter. In the thread that Keith had made his announcement in, Witty Banter made a remark that had nothing to do with the post counts or what was going on and he was quickly banned from the board.

 

The sheer dictatorial fashion in which he banned Witty Banter set off everyone who was involved in the matter as well as the way that Keith coldly made a major change to the board without any other poster's inputs which many felt was made in an unfair and domineering manner.

 

Shortly after Witty was banned, pictures of both Keith and Becker popped up on the boards in the General Chat folder along with the Flaming folders. The most notable and often remembered pictures of Becker and Keith were with their heads copied and pasted into various pictures of Nazi's and Sailor Moon girls. This went on for a couple of hours until Keith had Botter delete the Flaming folder.

 

The group of posters was furious and in response to this action, they opened up a site called WDI which is still up today.

 

In one of the funnier moments of WDI's infancy, Jeremy Botter made a post at the board shortly after it went up saying that he heard that the WDI posters were going to invade the board and threatened to have the board deleted by friends of his who knew how to do that kind of thing.

 

An invasion never happened and WDI went on with its business.

 

WDI was created as a "fuck you" to Keith and the other admins at the Smarks who had shown no regard or care for the posters and this perception stuck with the board long after the "war" had ended between Keith and his friends. When the squabble finally ended is anyone's guess but more than likely people would point to Dames buying the board and becoming the owner as the day that the disdain ended for both sides.

 

Over the last year, WDI has grown out of it's old shadow as not just a board that was created in spite of another board's actions, but as a message board that has no goal of bringing down the Smarks but rather just posting and generally having a good time.

 

And there you have it.

 

Of course I might have missed some things in there (timeline wise) but that's the meat of the matter.

 

Dames

[Guest The Flying Dutchman]

WDI: Not spiting Scott Keith since early 2002.

[EL DANDY~! 0]

Well, it's been said before...I must say it again...Dames > SK...in like...ALL aspects

[Guest goodhelmet]

i have read the rules dames is going to enact and i can say with absolutely no hesitation, they are fair and specific. if you break a rule, it won't be because you didn't know or understand the rule but that you didn't care to obey it.

[Guest Cancer Marney]

QUOTE (Dr Thomas Szasz - Schizophrenia: The Sacred Symbol of Psychiatry @ 1976)

We might call this... the Romanoff-Lenin effect, which I would define as follows: He who liberates you despotically from another despot will surpass in his cruelty the worst cruelties of his erstwhile antagonist. Indeed.   I'd like to see these "fair and specific" rules. Soon.   And I'd like everyone to remember that while a bulletin board is not a democracy governed by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, nevertheless you cannot rule except by consent of the ruled. We are all free to leave, so learn Scott Keith's lesson and learn it well. Go Scott Keith's route, and suffer Scott Keith's fate.   All of you cheering on the Great Purge may yet find yourselves on the wrong end of the firing squad. Frankly, a great many of you deserve it by the criteria implied so far: stupidity, irrelevancy, and illiteracy are hardly in short supply on this board. And there is a significant overlap between the most profligate suppliers and the most "established" posters.

[Guest goodhelmet]

I'd like to see these "fair and specific" rules. Soon.

I am almost positive this was directed at me so i will reply...

 

You don't have to trust me on this but dr. tom and i have read over the rules and i think he would agree with me... they are fair and specific with the intent of cleaning up the subject matter, or purging if you weel.

 

you are absolutely right on another matter... certain established posters will have to alter their posting habits in order to comply with the rules.

[Guest DrTom]

Actually, I helped write them, and advised Dames as to their content and message. My fingerprints are all over them.

[Guest goodhelmet]

well, i guess that is why cretin was thrown in there three times on rule #3

[Guest Cancer Marney]

I am almost positive this was directed at me so i will reply...

Thanks for the reply, although it wasn't directed specifically at you. It was directed at all the mods and admins, and whoever wishes to defend these new, as yet unseen rules. Also at the innumerable twits calling for other people's heads while giving no thought to their own, when often theirs are the ones that should roll first.

 

As for trust, from what I've seen over the past few years, I'm willing to give the board team the benefit of doubt. I hope they won't disappoint me.

[Guest DrTom]

well, i guess that is why cretin was thrown in there three times on rule #3

It was "semi-literate cretin," I'll have you know.

[Guest bps "The Truth" 21]

When these rules take effect I am putting a 14 day countdown on how long it takes for certain names that shall remain...you know...nameless to feel the wrath of bps interpretation.

[Guest crandamaniac]

certain established posters will have to alter their posting habits in order to comply with the rules.

Am I the only one who doesn't like the sound of that?

 

I mean it's been said before that this is Dames' board, but this board was bought for us that enjoyed it here could have a place to post. Would it not be fair then to allow us posters to see the new rules and voice any concern we have before the are set in stone?

[Guest Cancer Marney]

No, you're not the only one.

 

I'm trying not to pre-judge these "rules" before I even see them, but based on the running commentary we're getting, I don't like them already. I don't like trolls, I don't like stupidity, and I don't like illiteracy, but I like arbitrary, unaccountable, powermad tyranny even less. And this is starting to stink of it.

 

I want to believe it's my imagination. Give me proof.

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

do these new rules mean that I can'

t m,ake my posts with my eyes shut any more? Do they? Do they?

[Guest goodhelmet]

ok, put it this way...

 

the rules are already in effect but are being made public to dispel confusion.

 

for example, it is a rule that no trolling is allowed. now, trolling will be clearly defined. there won't be the confusion where people like banky can troll (which he has admitted to doing) and not suffer repercussions.

 

i don't think this is a witch hunt but rather a way of maintaining order on a board. it will also help the mods and admins communicate better and enforce the rules without crossing each other's wires.

[Guest Cancer Marney]

That sounds good as far as it goes. Any word on a publishing date?

[Guest DawnBTVS]

Is there any set date for when the rules are going to be posted or are you just going to continue holding us all in suspense?

[Guest goodhelmet]

dames will post them soon i am sure. my only intent on even replying in this topic was to alleviate fears, not to intensify them.

[Guest B-X]

I think once this starts, Dames or one of the mods should put up a "One and Only Banning Thread," where we, the commoners of the forums, may pass judgment on those who have left us, i.e. commenting on the banningship. We could get updates on a regular basis; the banning thread would be fucking awesome, if I may say so myself. I simply can not wait..... unless I'm first. Crap, I'm first, aren't I? ohmygodohmygodohmygod

 

*sits in corner, rocking back and forth, awaiting his judgment*

I already suggested this to Dames, like two days ago. Swear to God.

 

IM SERIOUS. TELL HIM DAMES.

[Guest DawnBTVS]

dames will post them soon i am sure. my only intent on even replying in this topic was to alleviate fears, not to intensify them.

I have no fears of getting banned...yet, I was just curious when they would be posted as I'm curious about them as I'm sure many other people are. Didn't mean to make it sound like I was becoming paranoid or fearful or anything, sorry.

[The Dames 0]

The Rules are now up in Site Feedback.

 

Your opinions are wanted.

 

Dames

[Guest jm29195]

Sounds like a fair set of rules, so how many is that that have been banned since yesterday?

[Tiffani Malibu 0]

They appear to be well-conceived and fair, Dames. I especially agree that disputes with moderators should be handled privately. I felt that way when I saw Bruce constantly bothering Dr. Tom in his thread.

 

-Tiff

[The Dames 0]

In the past few days, it's been almost 10 trolls/idiots who have come here and caused me to reveal the fact that I've been PMSing.

 

Dames

[Guest Austin3164life]

certain established posters will have to alter their posting habits in order to comply with the rules.

 

I try not to have bad posting habits. I think these rules could help this place out though, because lately, things have been starting to turn around for the better.

[Guest jm29195]

I actually think that it's got worse in the last couple of weeks but maybe that's because I've been spending more time on here- posters seem to be showing up and just constantly posting stupid crap or insults, what's the bloody point in that?

[Guest SP-1]

Anglesault, Jingus . . .

 

I hate you both.

 

Just so you know.

 

I'll have my vengeance one day.

 

*goes to read rules*

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

Or Keep Multiple Accounts from Occuring...

If it means anything the mods can erase all my accounts except Blurricane and LPYC. I don't use any of the other ones anymore.