Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 4, 2003 I kinda sorta almost liked undershooter. He has cut down on the arm work, but he still maintains the "big evil" (which is a rip-off of lil evil - jens pulver) and "fighting is a lifestyle". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted June 4, 2003 Maybe he should lose the mask and dye his hair red. They could call him "Big Red" or something like that. Or maybe since Doug Bashaam isn't using it anymore he could be called The Machine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted June 4, 2003 They would have to just bury him if they ditched the Kane gimmick. That's the only thing going for him. Hopefully they just bury him anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2003 I don't want Kane buried. He can be really good you guys! Honest! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RollingSambos Report post Posted June 4, 2003 Kane isn't 6'5". He's 6'7" legit, the lifts make him 6'9"...an inch taller than Taker, who is 6'8" legit. It pisses me off when WWE bills them as "a shade under 7 feet"...they're not even close. Is it really necessary to bill a guy who is 6'8" as 6'10" 1/2? It just makes them look stupid when somebody from the outside like Dennis Rodman dwarfs somebody like Hulk Hogan, who has been billed as 6'7"-6'8" all of his career but is only like 6'5" legit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2003 Kane isn't 6'5". He's 6'7" legit, the lifts make him 6'9"...an inch taller than Taker, who is 6'8" legit. It pisses me off when WWE bills them as "a shade under 7 feet"...they're not even close. Is it really necessary to bill a guy who is 6'8" as 6'10" 1/2? It just makes them look stupid when somebody from the outside like Dennis Rodman dwarfs somebody like Hulk Hogan, who has been billed as 6'7"-6'8" all of his career but is only like 6'5" legit. Good point, but he still should be pushed as a monster again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mickberna Report post Posted June 4, 2003 "Everyone complained when Taker debuted his new "Bikertaker" look, but it's worked pretty well for him." I liked your post until this part. Bikertaker STILL sucks a big fat cock, and still doesn't draw jack. You just don't like the Undertaker. I think that's pretty much established. However, whether he is a draw or not, he still pops the crowd huge and is ten times more over than the supposed "best wrestler in the world", so he must be doing something right. Remember, big time American pro wrestling is still more spectacle than sport. It's always been that way, and that's why Taker continues to be successful. Even if he does suck. Oh, and I'm glad you agree on the Kane part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam 0 Report post Posted June 4, 2003 I just want RVD and Kane to both get the title in the next year, but its a dream. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Coffey Report post Posted June 4, 2003 Man, I pray that Kane doesn't get a title run. He is awful. I don't know what I would do with the guy if I were in the WWE's shoes. You can't really give him a gimmick change, because it would kill him. Unless they did something completely off the wall like kill Kane off and have Glen Jacobs come back as a completely different person. He is just big, slow & goofy. Truth be told, he doesn't impress me that much in the power department either. Plus he has a bad moveset. A bad top rope clothesline, a stereotypical big man boot/sideslam...and a lame chokeslam finisher. There isn't much to Kane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest croweater Report post Posted June 4, 2003 Kane really does need to add to his moveset. Although, he hasn't really had a quality (time wise) match for quite some time. I used to think he was good when he first came into the WWF, but now, without the supernatural elements his way he's just your run of the mill wrestler. I really likes the segment with Austin, and think it will lead to a Kane turn at Bad Blood on RVD. Kane CAN play the monster heel, as long as the face he's against is selling like a bitch and can play the underdog. A fued betwen RVD and Kane would not be that bad as long as Kane is given MONSTER HEEL status. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AlwaysPissedOff Report post Posted June 4, 2003 However, whether he is a draw or not, he still pops the crowd huge and is ten times more over than the supposed "best wrestler in the world", so he must be doing something right. Remember, big time American pro wrestling is still more spectacle than sport. It's always been that way, and that's why Taker continues to be successful. Even if he does suck. The only reason he's still over is because the WWE wishes for him to be. To say "he's more over than the others" means NOTHING when the company books PoochieTaker to be damn near unstoppable and to have a fancy entrance that's pretty much assured to get a pop. If the company actually put that kind of effort into some of the upper-midcard talent they have, maybe things wouldn't be as bad as they are now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted June 4, 2003 "Everyone complained when Taker debuted his new "Bikertaker" look, but it's worked pretty well for him." I liked your post until this part. Bikertaker STILL sucks a big fat cock, and still doesn't draw jack. You just don't like the Undertaker. I think that's pretty much established. I liked the Undertaker, not Mean Mark using the Taker's name. I was excited when it appeared the old Taker would be coming back at the Rumble. When it turned out to be Bikertaker, I didn't care. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razoredge450 Report post Posted June 4, 2003 isnt Kane like 31 0r 32 years old now? He can't be around the same age as Taker Kane is 36 and Taker is 41 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nanks Report post Posted June 4, 2003 I'm stunned there are people complaining about this story. This is actually realistic. Stone Cold is doing what a General Manager is meant to do. He's looking to have his workers improve their performance. That is what a General Manager does, as opposed to going around 'screwing' people and suspending them. Kane's character was lagging probably more than most others and Austin is the perfect person to be the one trying to develop him as the two have history. I agree that most of the storylines on RAW and SD! are tripe, but must you people tip on absolutely everything, even when it's good?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 4, 2003 The problem isn't Austin motivating, it's Kane being motivated - this angle has been done before. How many more 're-starts' can a character have? Oh, and they did this exact same angle in 2001 with McMahon and Austin - that's lazy writing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nanks Report post Posted June 4, 2003 When has this angle been done with Kane before?? Who would you rather have Austin out there motivating?? Better yet, what would you rather have Austin doing as a GM?? Don't answer with tired old shit like, "he should fire HHH cuz he sucks d00der" Fine, so it's similar to the McMahon/Austin story during the Alliance feud, but short of returning to Taker to his old character and bringing him to RAW to have him return his brother to 'The Dark Side', how would you redevelop Kane's character. Yes, he needs it, no he's not going to be released, nor should he, he pops the crowd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dangerous A Report post Posted June 4, 2003 I'll tell you what this is all leading to. Kane vs Goldberg feud after Summerslam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted June 5, 2003 -Being X-pacs big buddy in 99. -Losing his mask to Xpac in 01. Who would I rather have Austin motivating? No one right now. The Angle isn't set up properly. What would I rather have Austin doing as GM? Setting up matches (you know, BEFORE the show), changing the system/format, improving the show. It's "similar"? No, it's "exact" - right up to Austin wanting Kane to chokeslam him. How would I develop Kanes character? I don't really care enough about him to give it a thought. I know I just wouldn't do it the same way I've done it before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ray Report post Posted June 5, 2003 I'll tell you what this is all leading to. Kane vs Goldberg feud after Summerslam. Meh.......it wouldn't be that bad. *hides* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
