Guest Choken One Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 I just realize there was an connection between this Bad Blood and the other one... The BIRTH of The Cell and The DEATH of the Cell
Guest AndrewTS Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 Keep the Kane name and mask, forget the gimmick. Nobody wants a new Taker--let him actually attempt to wrestle well. The guy barely looks taller than Austin without the lifts in his boots, so stop treating him like a full-fledged hoss.
ChrisMWaters Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 Funny thing to note... Kane is about the same age as Taker in REAL life...yet less people complain about Kane staying in the ring compared to Taker.
Guest Choken One Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 That's because Kane hasn't played Politics and isn't taking up space...
Guest Ray Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 Keep the Kane name and mask, forget the gimmick. That's exactly what's wrong with him now. They forgot the gimmick.
Guest JMA Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 Enough of this glorification of the old Kane. The "old" Kane was wrestle crap material. His character was Dungeon of Doom bad. I mean, give me a fucking break. Did the writers expect us to believe that Kane was the burned, presumed dead brother of the Undertaker? No, the Kane gimmick has always been bad. It's a credit to Glen Jacobs that he has somehow made it work. But I don't want a return to the days of Kane summoning lighting and creating fire with his mind. Because that was crap.
Guest AndrewTS Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 JMA: Amen. Chris: Kane isn't a slow, boring, plodding, politicking sack of shit with extremely boring offense who cuts the worst, most freakin' dull promos in the entire company. He's just a kinda-slugging, plodding guy with a lame moveset and and a stupid outfit/gimmick who doesn't speak, who could be better if he was motivated.
ChrisMWaters Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 I say don't bring back the pyro summoning or lightning summoning...but DO bring back the monster part of Kane. Silent assassain type Kane...works better than S&M Kane.
Guest Ray Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 I say don't bring back the pyro summoning or lightning summoning...but DO bring back the monster part of Kane. Silent assassain type Kane...works better than S&M Kane. EXACTLY.
Guest AndrewTS Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 I say don't bring back the pyro summoning or lightning summoning...but DO bring back the monster part of Kane. Silent assassain type Kane...works better than S&M Kane. Who wants another Monster Hoss Heel?
Guest Choken One Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 Who wants a Necrophilac Pot Smoking Happy 7' foot S&M Freak?
Guest Ray Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 I say don't bring back the pyro summoning or lightning summoning...but DO bring back the monster part of Kane. Silent assassain type Kane...works better than S&M Kane. Who wants another Monster Hoss Heel? A huge heel is needed on Raw.
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 The Gimmick is 5 1/2 years old BTW.
Guest AndrewTS Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 Who wants a Necrophilac Pot Smoking Happy 7' foot S&M Freak? I don't want that either, although you should realize that he doesn't look anywhere near seven-foot, and they completely forgot all that Katie Vick crap afterwards. So then Kane mentioned in promos something about torturing animals in his basement and so forth, or...something worse. So he's a 6'5" disgruntled pot-smoking S&M-and-beastiality freak. Besides, HHH is the only dominating heel on Raw, remember?
Guest Ray Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 The Gimmick is 5 1/2 years old BTW. How old is Hulkamania? Texas Rattlesnake? Heartbreak Kid? Nature Boy? WWE is full of old gimmicks. The "Kane" gimmick may be five years old, but I still like it.
Guest CanadianChick Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 Who wants a Necrophilac Pot Smoking Happy 7' foot S&M Freak? I didn't know Kane smoked pot...Good for Rob to be nice enough to share his stash. ANYWAYS, I wouldn't mind for Kane to be a monster heel as long as he and RVD are not partners anymore. RVD is so not a tag wrestler.
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 And how many of those currently make money? How many are in anything meaningful right now? Old = Bad New = Good
Guest Choken One Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 Austin doesn't make money? I would like to challenge that...
ChrisMWaters Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 Who wants a Necrophilac Pot Smoking Happy 7' foot S&M Freak? I didn't know Kane smoked pot...Good for Rob to be nice enough to share his stash. ANYWAYS, I wouldn't mind for Kane to be a monster heel as long as he and RVD are not partners anymore. RVD is so not a tag wrestler. You forgetting about his ECW time with Sabu?
Guest CanadianChick Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 Who wants a Necrophilac Pot Smoking Happy 7' foot S&M Freak? I didn't know Kane smoked pot...Good for Rob to be nice enough to share his stash. ANYWAYS, I wouldn't mind for Kane to be a monster heel as long as he and RVD are not partners anymore. RVD is so not a tag wrestler. You forgetting about his ECW time with Sabu? But wasn't he still a singles competitor though? He was hardly a full-fledged tag wrestler like he is considered now.
Guest JMA Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 I say Glen should ditch the whole "Kane" gimmick. I don't think he should use one of his past gimmicks, though. Give him something new to work with.
LooseCannon25 Posted June 4, 2003 Author Report Posted June 4, 2003 Wait a minute isnt Kane like 31 0r 32 years old now? He can't be around the same age as Taker.......If so i then i been way off about his age since he was friggin Isaac Yankem
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 How in gods name does Austin make money? He doesn't even wrestle. He isn't at house shows. The ratings are still falling. You think the redneck triathelon will improve the buyrate for Bad Blood?
Guest Choken One Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 Yeah...Jeff Hardy made money for WWE too...
Guest mickberna Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 Kane needs to lose the mask and evolve his character. Use some makeup to make him look like he has a burnt face or something (with one colored contact lens for the "half-burnt effect), but he MUST move past the mask. He MUST develop his character. If he doesn't start doing something new, his character will be even more dead than it already is. Everyone complained when Taker debuted his new "Bikertaker" look, but it's worked pretty well for him. I say let Kane move on, and ditch the old costumes and gimmick. Otherwise bury the damn guy and release him.
Guest RavishingRickRudo Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 Which is 1000th of what it used to be and is probably costing the company more than it makes due to the fact that they spend so much time promoting Austin rather than promoting a talent with more room for potential and growth.
Guest NoCalMike Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 As long as Kane's storyline leads him to parting ways with RVD, I am ok with it. RVD needs to start being elevated and getting out of the tag team is the first step.
Guest AndrewTS Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 "Everyone complained when Taker debuted his new "Bikertaker" look, but it's worked pretty well for him." I liked your post until this part. Bikertaker STILL sucks a big fat cock, and still doesn't draw jack.
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