Guest Lord of The Curry Report post Posted June 16, 2003 How HBK/Flair could be called "classic" astounds me... With the retarded psychology, stupid(and totally USELESS) table spot, and that lame ass finish, it would called fucking awful on any decently booked show. That finish was classic, it paid tribute to the Horsemen. Flair always won, by any means, he won. Just like he did tonight. It was classic. How does Flairs cock feel in your ass? Seriously. Ease up. Does this mean that every finish where somebody has a buddy run in for them is a tribute to Flair and The Horsemen? Classic my pale Irish ass. Good job, real clever. It was a great match. And I'm glad your ass is pale, and also sorry. Go to the pool. How about you answer my question? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agent_Bond34 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2003 I don't think I did. I say what I mean and mean what I say. This ppv was the best of the year. How was this better than WrestleMania? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bravesfan Report post Posted June 16, 2003 bravesfan: How does that make Mania IX worse? It's possibly the worst Mania ever, but you're just listing a disappointing aspect of it. Wrestlemania had no redeeming qualities. King of the Ring 1995 had no redeeming qualities. Therefore, intangibles will define which PPV is ultimately worse. I based my opinion on which PPV was a bigger disappointment. KOTR 1995 had a main event which had four below-average workers (Tatanka, Sid, Bigelow and Nash.) HBK or UT winning KOTR would've been great, but conidering their booking at that time, it would NOT have mattered in the grand scheme of things. Wrestlemania IX at least had Bret in the ME, and even a Yoko victory would've been great, since he was already programmed for a monster heel run leading up to the following 'Mania. And Hogan sneaked in, winning the World Championship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Here is the difference with KOTR 1995 and Bad Blood in my mind At least in B.B the right guy (HHH) went over instead of fucking MABEL...over SAVIO FUCKING VEGA! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Grand Pubah of 1620 Report post Posted June 16, 2003 How HBK/Flair could be called "classic" astounds me... With the retarded psychology, stupid(and totally USELESS) table spot, and that lame ass finish, it would called fucking awful on any decently booked show. That finish was classic, it paid tribute to the Horsemen. Flair always won, by any means, he won. Just like he did tonight. It was classic. How does Flairs cock feel in your ass? Seriously. Ease up. Does this mean that every finish where somebody has a buddy run in for them is a tribute to Flair and The Horsemen? Classic my pale Irish ass. Good job, real clever. It was a great match. And I'm glad your ass is pale, and also sorry. Go to the pool. How about you answer my question? Your question is irrelevant. I loved the Horsemen. I realize that a copy would would be shit. But I do realize that the Evolution could be a great tribute to the Horsemen and also add some good fueds to the current WWE, making the shows more interesting again. Now, I am hoping that this is the angel they are going with this. If I am wrong, then I am wrong. But I can hope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Grand Pubah of 1620 Report post Posted June 16, 2003 I don't think I did. I say what I mean and mean what I say. This ppv was the best of the year. How was this better than WrestleMania? Two words, Flair Michaels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted June 16, 2003 I've seen worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agent_Bond34 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Two words, Flair Michaels. So this was better than Lesnar/Angle, then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Grand Pubah of 1620 Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Two words, Flair Michaels. So this was better than Lesnar/Angle, then? To me, yes. Does me liking a match for other reasons then another make me wrong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wrestlingbs Report post Posted June 16, 2003 I bet there are worse PPVs out there, but Bad Blood was the worst PPV I've ordered since I started watching 4 years ago. I just should have skipped it like the last two. It was that bad. HBK vs. Flair was okay at best. And Evolution is no 4 Horsemen. HHH is no Ric Flair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agent_Bond34 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2003 To me, yes. Does me liking a match for other reasons then another make me wrong? Nah I'm just asking simple questions. I might care to check this match out at a later time on Kazaa or something, if I can find it. I didn't get to see the Flair/HBK match, because my computer froze. I was watching Bad Blood via webcast supplied by someone here, and got cut off during Jericho/Goldberg and didn't get the feed back until Nash/HHH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NoCalMike Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Flair/HBK was good, not classic Jericho carried Goldberg to decency which I liked. The rest was crap The Austin/Bischoff shit needs to stay OFF ppvs...it is boring, stupid, and useless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detective Comics 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Does me liking a match for other reasons then another make me wrong? Yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Does me liking a match for other reasons then another make me wrong? Yes. You and Nunzio Cardozo are truly the two best new posters on this board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lord of The Curry Report post Posted June 16, 2003 How HBK/Flair could be called "classic" astounds me... With the retarded psychology, stupid(and totally USELESS) table spot, and that lame ass finish, it would called fucking awful on any decently booked show. That finish was classic, it paid tribute to the Horsemen. Flair always won, by any means, he won. Just like he did tonight. It was classic. How does Flairs cock feel in your ass? Seriously. Ease up. Does this mean that every finish where somebody has a buddy run in for them is a tribute to Flair and The Horsemen? Classic my pale Irish ass. Good job, real clever. It was a great match. And I'm glad your ass is pale, and also sorry. Go to the pool. How about you answer my question? Your question is irrelevant. I loved the Horsemen. I realize that a copy would would be shit. But I do realize that the Evolution could be a great tribute to the Horsemen and also add some good fueds to the current WWE, making the shows more interesting again. Now, I am hoping that this is the angel they are going with this. If I am wrong, then I am wrong. But I can hope. Evolution is not a tribute to Flair, no matter how badly you want it to be. It's HHH trying to be Ric Flair. What HHH is doing isn't a tribute, it's an attempt to be better then Flair. Does "Your question is irrelevant" mean "I can't think of an answer" in your world? You say the finish was a tribute to Flair. Your logic is flawed. I've called you on it. Either answer the the question or don't, but do not say "Your question is irrelevant". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Does me liking a match for other reasons then another make me wrong? Yes. You and Nunzio Cardozo are truly the two best new posters on this board. You see the problem is Nunzio is funny where Johnson is just an annoying 35 year old living in his parent's basement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detective Comics 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2003 You see the problem is Nunzio is funny where Johnson is just an annoying 35 year old living in his parent's basement. Hey, no need to make fun of Johnson. He is entitled to his opinions as much as anyone else is. JOKE! The main problem with the Flair/HBK match was the table spot. I think almost everyone can agree with it. It looked great, but it should have been in a match that needed a table spot (Duds v Mack Attack), rather then a match that should have been more old school wrestling. I think it worked against the match. Someone who I watch the PPV with said it just proves that Flair can adapt to anything, including table spots for the new millenium. They were dead-wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lord of The Curry Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Table spots are SO new millenium. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Does Johnsons insistance that Flair/HBK was an classic... Make my insistance that Jericho/Shawn was a classic MORE credible? I mean...Fuck... you all pretty much raked me across the coals because I thought that match was a classic... And it still stands as my MOTY. Yep. Sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Grand Pubah of 1620 Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Does Johnsons insistance that Flair/HBK was an classic... Make my insistance that Jericho/Shawn was a classic MORE credible? I mean...Fuck... you all pretty much raked me across the coals because I thought that match was a classic... And it still stands as my MOTY. Yep. Sorry. Jericho?HBK was also a classic. It was the best match of WM. But not as good as Flair/HBK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detective Comics 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Does Johnsons insistance that Flair/HBK was an classic... Make my insistance that Jericho/Shawn was a classic MORE credible? I mean...Fuck... you all pretty much raked me across the coals because I thought that match was a classic... And it still stands as my MOTY. Yep. Sorry. Jericho?HBK was also a classic. It was the best match of WM. But not as good as Flair/HBK. How do you figure? Jericho carried HBK to a much better match then Flair did. And I want to know how you personally feel about the table spot, Johnson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted June 16, 2003 All right seriously... Johnson your gimmick has gotten old...I realize your still jaded by the fact the Yellow and Purple Wonders fell off the face of the earth but SNAP back to reality motherfucker... Flair/HBK was a severe disapointment that JUST got **3/4...with an uneccesary Table Spot and the continuation of the Orton Elevation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest KingOfOldSchool Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Two words, Flair Michaels. So this was better than Lesnar/Angle, then? Or HBK/Jericho, for that matter. Hate to bring out the ratings, but HBK/Flair was only about ***1/2, tops, and that's for the ringwork. The overbooking and the cheap crowd-pleaser known as the table spot, which worked AGAINST the type of match it was shaping up to be, brings the match as a whole down to ***. That doesn't beat Lesnar/Angle or HBK/Jericho from WM, which both hover around ****. And Wrestlemania didn't have any retarded Redneck Triathlon skits or Mae Young either. And this show wasn't better than Royal Rumble either. While it does have the hilariously bad Triple H/Steiner, Benoit/Angle smokes HBK/Flair and Lesnar/Show was surprisingly entertaining affair. As for the HIAC, I recognize it for what it is. Brawling and buckets of blood, of course this one was also masked in part by the Triple H/Foley dynamic, and of course, the blood. One of those middle of the road HIACs, I'll call it **. I hated the ending... A sledgehammer doesn't knock you out, but a Pedigree does? Okay then. I'll say this PPV was better than No Way Out, Backlash and Judgement Day, but definitely NOT better than Rumble and WM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest papacita Report post Posted June 16, 2003 I got in at 11 and just finished watching the replay...match-wise I've seen worse, but the Redneck triathalon killed the show for me. Nobody...mark, smark, casual fan or whatever...NOBODY orders a PPV to see that bullshit. How the WWE fails to realize this amazes me. Flair/HBK (which I was hyped for) started out pretty good but it fell apart towards the end. I wasn't expecting a classic, but I was a little disappointed by the outcome. Jericho/Goldberg was ok...although Chris going for the Walls in the end was dumb as hell. Now I'm not usually one to bitch about psychology in a match, but can someone explain to me why Chris would spend the entire match working the shoulder then finish the match with a move that effects the back??? Chris is my boy and all, but that was horrible. Those are my only real complaints about the show...everything else was just there. Test/Steiner was a lot more entertaining than I expected though, I will say that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Mighty Damaramu Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Best PPV of the year? Angle/Benoit at RR blows every match on this PPV COMBINED out of the water. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Smell the ratings!!! Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Angle/Benoit blows away every other WWE match this year combined. And they didn't have to cut it short for a burping contest either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Err...the table spot was the same thing HBK did to HHH at Summerslam. Kinda like his trademark I guess. That's why it was there. Still, the PPV was really bad. The only redeeming factors were those two guys in the front row wearing those Winnie the Pooh and Tigger suits, and their arguement with Goldberg. Oh, and notice how EVERYBODY is clammering to mention how Goldberg the 'NO SELLER' sold the shoulder. Nice how people pick out the bad but never the good. Especially with Goldberg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Cucaracha 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Jericho/Goldberg was ok...although Chris going for the Walls in the end was dumb as hell. Now I'm not usually one to bitch about psychology in a match, but can someone explain to me why Chris would spend the entire match working the shoulder then finish the match with a move that effects the back??? Chris is my boy and all, but that was horrible. It's his finisher...so obviously he'd go for it. That's probably why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Kane Fan Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Hi all, I thought Bad Blood was very disappointing I was hoping Kane would go back to being a monster by destroying RVD and the referee during the match, but all he did was stay on the ground... HBK and Flair could have been good, but it was a let down because it was boring and wasn't a technical classic! The Dudley's tag match was almost decent and I liked Theodore Long questioning DVon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest KingOfOldSchool Report post Posted June 16, 2003 Sure, but in the Summerslam match, it still fit into the context of the stipulation. Here, the spot detracted from the match. All in all, in this match, it was just something that wasn't needed. Even then, why does HBK go for it even after his leg had been worked over (which is also something that irked me about the Summerslam match... his back had been destoyed then, yet he goes for the table spot). Hell, at what point after a table spot which SHOULD HAVE been illegal, does anyone see a point in a ref bump to get the interference from Glass Joe in. You may as well just let Flair and HBK go at it fully at that point. After the business with the table, everything just broke down, and it became a poorly constructed match. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
