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Who should have been a champ  

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  1. 1. Who should have been a champ

    • Rick Rude
      0
    • Rob Van Dam
      1
    • Scott Hall
      1
    • Roddy Piper
      3
    • Davey Boy Smith
      0
    • Dynamite Kid
      2
    • Owen Hart
      15
    • Brian Pillman
      1
    • Ted DiBiase
      14
    • other
      2


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Guest Aero

Owen Hart... Back in January of 1998, I thought it was a lock that he'd win the Title by the end of the year, but Shawn Michaels refused to work with him due to the Screwjob. Then, Austin wasn't too comfortable working with him either due to the Owendriver. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Guest Slingshot Suplex

Off that list.......I have a hard time picking between DiBiase and Piper. Both were so over as heels in their heyday I thought they should have given both the world title at some point.

 

I could understand not giving it to Piper with Hogan just snowballing into the popularity monster. Go with what was hot I suppose.

 

So my pick is DiBiase. He should have either won the Wrestlemania 4 tourney or won it from Savage somewhere along the way.

 

I thought Rude would win it from Warrior and the only chance Owen had was winning it from Bret. But really,the only ones who definitely should have had one run were Piper and DiBiase.

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Guest Dangerous A

Owen Hart will get the sympathy vote here and if you were to pick him, you wouldn't necessarily be wrong, but I gotta go with Dibiase. His character wasn't just good, it was great. On top of that, he was arguably the best worker in the company at the time of his main event push.

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Guest CanadianChick

I'm with DA. I always wondered why Dibiase never got the title. His gimmick was so good and he was one of the best heels of his day.

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Guest Youth N Asia

I hate to sound like a bastard, but some of the guys on the list (and many lists like them) are only there cause they died. Never in a million years would Pillman win a world title or come close...and I liked the guy.

 

Owen's only shot was in 94 when Bret was champ. That's when he was at his most over as a heel and when it would have made sense.

 

I'll say Debiase. And Hall on the list is a joke.

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Yeah Hennig was AWA World champ when that belt still meant something.I think he won it in 1987 or 1988.

 

And Youth's post sums up my feeling too. I just wasn't feeling like the bastard yesterday ;)

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Yah I knew about Hennig's AWA title run but it's AWA, and it's late-80's...that's like not holding a belt. But anyways there were atleast two moments when he could've very feasbily won the WWF title(RR-WM90,around Flair's WWF departure) and he was over enough to do so as a heel and, later on, as face.

 

I don't mind Scott Hall on the list since he came close a number of times but Pillman, Dynamite and RVD should not be there. Davey Boy is questionable since if he stayed in the WWF in 92 he probably would've gotten it sooner or later. Plus he could've got it around 95/96.

 

BTW during DiBiase's prime only Steamboat and Savage were better workers in the WWF.

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The AWA were beginning their decline,no doubt, but they were still a recognized world title and still a national promotion.

 

You could throw guys like Tully Blanchard or maybe even Wahoo McDaniel on that list.

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Allow me to elaborate on some of the more speculative choices I made when making the list;

 

Scott Hall: Why is it that Kevin Nash has held titles in both promotions, and has consistantly been fighting for the world title since 1995 when Hall has had very, very few world title fueds? Not to say that I was calling for a Razor Ramon vs. Bob Backlund match, but you have to admit for how popular he was at certain moments and how Vince had an devoted hard on for him for a short time, the man has been pretty jilted when it comes to world title matches.

 

Dynamite Kid: Yes he was mainly a tag wrestler, yes he was always on the lower end of the card, but who in their right mind wouldn't have loved to see the original tactition in the ring fighting for the premier belt?

 

Rob Van Dam: At the height of its popularity RVD WAS ECW. There is no denying that. He put on great match after great match with Jerry Lynn, Rhyno, Justin Credible, Sabu, and Tommy Dreamer. He was primed for his first world title program with Mike Awesome before he tore up his leg. In WWF/E he was immediately taken by the fans as one of their own. I've never seen a crowd accept a new face that quickly, but Vince did nothing to capitilize on it. He had that one main event at No Mercy and his debacle of a fued with HHH. The man at least deserved an ECW world belt.

 

Brian Pillman: Had he no died so early in life (RIP), he would have risen along with Steve Austin as one of the federation's top players. His fued with Stone Cold helped usher in the Attitude era and as Austin would rise to the top, so would have Brian Pillman. Its a shame he never got that chance to prove himself. Some say he was too small, but HBK is no bigger than he is.

 

Davey Boy Smith: During his run in WCW in the late 80's he took part in a number of world title matches, but never could secure a win. When he returned to the WWF he was again placed at the top of the card, but a stupid pairing with Lex Luger ruined him for that stint. His second return to the motherland he was immediatly treated as main event material, as he was placed in the 6 Pack Challenge at Unforgiven, but again he was paired with horrible team mates and slipped into Mean Street Posse obscurity.

 

In retrospect, I suppose I could have made a few better replacements (Blanchard, Magnum TA, McDaniel) but now I at least feel my list is justified.)

-Cheex

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Guest two_tuff_toddy

In north america I would say either Owen or old School Piper. I voted for Owen just because I would have rather seen him with it I guess. Outside of america I really have no idea

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Rob Van Dam: At the height of its popularity RVD WAS ECW. There is no denying that. He put on great match after great match with Jerry Lynn, Rhyno, Justin Credible, Sabu, and Tommy Dreamer. He was primed for his first world title program with Mike Awesome before he tore up his leg. In WWF/E he was immediately taken by the fans as one of their own. I've never seen a crowd accept a new face that quickly, but Vince did nothing to capitilize on it. He had that one main event at No Mercy and his debacle of a fued with HHH. The man at least deserved an ECW world belt.

This is something that smells funny.

 

Like I already said, I never saw ECW, down here we barely can watch 1 f'n hour of raw, and ECW DVDs are really expensive (between $45-50 dlls). But I do know he was over in ECW, but still Paul Heyman NEVER gave him the title. Why?

I mean, even Justin was ECW champ.

Somebody can explain that to me?

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The only reason I can think of,unless it was behind the scenes stuff,is that Van Dam was so over in ECW that he didn't NEED the world title.So maybe he figured he'd use the title to boost some other people and then you had Van Dam in the comfortable position of ECW TV champ and still wrestling the main events.

 

Just my speculation.

 

And about the people on the list..I could see all of them with a world title run at some point in their careers except for probably Dynamite just based on that he didn't have much of a singles career in the states. And Pillman may have eventually become a real world title contender.

 

And Magnum probably would have been NWA champ at some point if not for the car accident.

 

But I still feel Piper and DiBiase were the only ones on that list who truly deserved a world title run.

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Guest y2jailbait

Both of the Bulldogs were so popular and had such great workrates, it wouldn't be so far off to imagine one of them as a world champion, Dynamite especially.

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I was hoping Davey Boy would win it after he cut off the dreads,turned heel and joined up with Jim Cornette.

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Guest Ray

The question is who is the BEST person to never win a title.

 

Owen Hart was the best wrestler on that list. so he gets my vote.

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Arguably,Dynamite and DiBiase were better wrestlers than Owen.

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Guest CanadianChris

I'd put Arn Anderson on the list too.

 

My vote went to DiBiase. He had the total package...flawless in the ring, a good look, a great gimmick, and fabulous on the mic. When you could be considered a viable world champ in the Hogan era, that says a LOT. Owen, as much as I was a mark for him, was never quite at that level.

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Brian Pillman: Had he no died so early in life (RIP), he would have risen along with Steve Austin as one of the federation's top players. His fued with Stone Cold helped usher in the Attitude era and as Austin would rise to the top, so would have Brian Pillman. Its a shame he never got that chance to prove himself. Some say he was too small, but HBK is no bigger than he is.

 

His WWF signing was doomed from the start. After the motorcycle(?) accident weeks before the "official announcement" of his signing, it was obvious Pillman would never advance anywhere beyond a midcard role. His lower body was so damaged, there was no way he would've gone full-tilt with an Austin, Rock, Foley, HBK, HHH or Owen.

 

The fact is, he, like Dibiase, was in the wrong place at the WRONG time. At the height of his popularity in WCW, a wrestler from either allegiance (FACE - Sting, HEEL - Flair, Vader) would outshine whatever Pillman had physically.

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Guest Dynamite Kido

<-------for christ's sake I STILL picked owen....come on people!!!!

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Guest BAR

Dyno's definately my favourite from that list, obviously but his WWF stuff promised nothing. He broke too many rules, Davey was the golden boy, sadly. And he was simply a junior in NJ, putting Sayama over. Granted, he did go on to win a tournie and a title but never a WHC.

 

From the list: Owen Hart.

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Dibiase and Piper are the only real choices.

 

Owen was a great wrestler but was never in a position where he should have won the world title.

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Guest Choken One

From an Business Standpoint

 

Ted Dibiase was the BEST performer that was never given the title...

 

The time WAS *perfect* for Dibiase to have his run with the title in 1988. He should have gone ahead and Beat Savage in the finals in an screwy fashion...

 

Build up an Major Title Match against Savage at Summer Slam where Hogan helps him and thus starts the mega-powers Angle...

 

 

Owen Hart was great and I loved him but I never viewed him as WORLD CHAMPION material.

 

Pillman was never a WORLD CHAMPION mold performer...His gimmick was though.

 

Rick Rude for all acounts and purposes SHOULD have ran 1992-1993 As the REAL WORLD CHAMPION since he was CLEARLY the #1 heel and was reaching FLAIR levels with the Alliance.

 

ROB VAN DAM was a rarity...He was actually ABOVE the world title (ecw here)...and He was CLEARLY insanely over in 2001 and putting the title on him during the Invasion with the Paranod Austin angle was PERFECT but the didn't...

 

Dynamite...Ha! I would never put the World Title On him at his time (remember this is from a business aspect)

 

British Bulldog- The one Shawn should've jobbed to (not Sid) in 1996.

 

Scott Hall- In WCW and WWF...I could never see where he was ready for the title except for a brief time in 1997 where he led The Wolfpac but I never viewed him as a worthy world champion challenger much less a title holder.

 

Piper-Why he didn't get an run with it during the MTV heyday...ASTOUNDS me...

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Guest Choken One

Yea, I suppose so...

 

I dunno how much more tolerable the Sid/Mabel pushes would've been though...

 

Hall was good but not that good.

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I was pissed they had Backlund drop the title so quickly. There was so much potential in Crazy Hands second title run that I was practically giddy with anticipation. And then we get footage of Diesel beating him the next week.........

 

and CC........ I completely forgot about Arn Anderson. He would be deserving on the list too but for some reason,probably because he was never pushed as a major singles wrestler, I have a hard time thinking of him as world champion material. I know he had numerous TV titles but the TV title was never thought that highly of. He was a solid wrestler and a great promo man but something just wasn't there.

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