Guest jm29195 Report post Posted July 1, 2003 I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before but with departure of Piper and now Hogan from the Smackdown brand, does anyone think tihs will force the creative team to elevate new faces into the main event mix- similar to what Vince did in 96 after Nash and Hall left? This could mean more exposure for Benoit, Hardy et al but knowing the wwe 'logic' it'll probably mean more Albert.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 1, 2003 does anyone think tihs will force the creative team to elevate new faces into the main event mix No. They're having a bitch of a time as it is with the guys already there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jm29195 Report post Posted July 1, 2003 Smackdown main event scene (ie consistently booked as main eventer) = Angle Lesnar Big Show probably scope for improvement Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nikowwf Report post Posted July 1, 2003 They should move up Benoit asap. Benoit can take on Big Show for the #1 contender for Summerslam, and Angle can fight Brock for the title. niko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted July 1, 2003 Vince and Steph.... Duh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 1, 2003 Smackdown main event scene (ie consistently booked as main eventer) = Angle Lesnar Big Show probably scope for improvement Yes, and they can't do anything borderline acceptable with those three. Adding someone else will confuse these people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2003 Billy Gunn!!!!!!!1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zack Malibu Report post Posted July 1, 2003 They really need to pull the trigger on the Cena-ized Triple Threat (either with Benoit and Rhyno or with Cena, Haas and Benjamin). You could have a breakthrough stable RIGHT THERE, but noooooo. It's going to wind up being Big Show and A-Train vs. Angle and Brock, watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted July 1, 2003 Piper was never a main eventer and Hogan's push was blown out of proportion due to his constant face time with Vince. So like AS said, you only have those three guys to work with as main eventers... but the writers can't handle it because they can't figure out how to build a face-versus-face contest with Brock against Angle . The only thing that can save Benoit now is a blood feud, and he's just not up to that anymore. Sorry. Look for elevation for maybe Matt Hardy and Edge (when he comes back) but thats about it. And can we stop with the Albert thing now? The guy isn't even on the show on a weekly basis anymore for some reason. I don't think you need to worry about him being world champion anytime soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted July 1, 2003 But look at it on the bright side....at least maybe now Vince will stay the hell off camera Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trivia247 Report post Posted July 1, 2003 So No longer is Gowen gonna get picked on for being a One legged Mr. American Fan, maybe he will be just picked on for being One legged.... hmm they are already doing that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted July 1, 2003 Vince stay off camera???!!! Vince MCMAHON??! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 1, 2003 Smart thing to do is GO WITH THE Three Way and TBS jobs and thus use it to set up tension between Angle and Lesnar with AngleSlam winning but Lesnar getting the pinfall instead in one of those whacky "Lesnar was knocked out but TBS landed right by Lesnar and lesnar simply laid his arm over him and won" (Now Angle knows how it feels...Remember that's how he won the SIX MAN HIAC)... You have Benoit and Rhyno against the new WWE Tag Team Champions T.B.D.T.T.P on SMACKDOWN Rhyno turns heel... Benoit gets rhyno in an Last Man Standing for Slam... TBS moves down and fueds with John Cena in a Comedy Angle where CENA pretty much turns face. Angle wins the title at Slam but Lesnar takes an Rib injury during the match... And Lesnar leaves for a Month to rest (and a vaction for the good work from WWE)... You have Benoit go over Rhyno and thus is the #1 contender... Benoit wrestles Angle to an draw at Unforgiven...Lesnar makes his return as an Heel with Heyman by Attacking Mysterio (his former buddy)... This sets up an parallel...Lesnar beat Angle because he broke his neck...Angle beat Lesnar because of Lesnar's broken Ribs... Lesnar demands a title match but Benoit stays he is still more deserving of it...Angle, the Tweener...Suggest they fight for it... Agreed...The match is a clusterfuck No-Contest and Angle has to face both of them at Survivor Series... Lesnar Destroys Angle and "re-injures" Angle's neck and wins back the title after Benoit DEMANDS to stop the match out of concern for Angle...Lesnar F5's the fuck outta Benoit and takes the title... Benoit says he doesn't regret trying to stop the match but He wants a equal shot at Lesnar...at Armagededdon. They settle for a I Quit Match... They go 30 minutes and Lesnar gets Benoit in his Bear-hug...Benoit climbs over lesnar and locks the Cross-Face and Lesnar fights it for 3 minutes until blood pours from his mouth and he softly taps as he passes out... Benoit wins the title and Angle arrives at the top of the ramp and appluds Benoit and Raises Benoit's Hand... Benoit goes to Rumble and grants Angle a shot at the title out of respect... Lesnar enters the rumble but clearly states that winning the rumble ISN'T his objective...He is gunning for Angle but was forced to sign a Zero Tolerance Policy towards Angle and Benoit and VICE VERSA for them... Lesnar enters the rumble at #15 and kills the field and simply walks away goin over the top rope...Having Made his point...They aren't sure WHY Lesnar sacrificed the potential title shot... some one from raw wins the rumble (Jericho for my sake) Benoit and Angle main event the rumble and they have an ***** match as Lesnar and Heyman stand ringside but never play a factor in the match...Angle gets an clean win over Benoit with the Slam... Lesnar enters the ring after Angle's celebration and staresdown...and says "Get ready for Mania" Lesnar reveals an Contractual Loophole that Heyman pulled off in the Zero Policy Contracts...Stating that if Lesnar does not touch either benoit or Angle...He would be granted a shot at the title WHENEVER he wants...He chooses WM... Lesnar's Zero Policy runs up but not Angles... They establish that either men have beaten the other guy when Healthy... Benoit goes to Mania against whomever the Upper Card Flavor of the month is (Edge, Cena, Eddy etc) Angle triumphs over Lesnar at Mania. and we start over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Goodear Report post Posted July 1, 2003 See you had Benoit winning world championship gold in that scenario so you know its never going to happen ... ... and it shouldn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 1, 2003 Even *I* believe Benoit should have a title run...even if it lasts a month... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 1, 2003 One too many title changes there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 1, 2003 4 Lesnar to Angle Angle to Lesnar Lesnar to Benoit Benoit to Angle over a period of 8 months...Works out fine... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 1, 2003 Three months in a row, though. Lesnar to Angle at SumSlam Angle to Lesnar at SurSer Lesnar to Angle at Mania Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 1, 2003 Ummm No...Angle was the champion going into Mania... Lesnar was the bad big threat to angle that he had to over come... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 1, 2003 That was my suggestion. Have Angle win it back at Mania. A one month reign for Benoit helps no one and turns the belt into a hot potato. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 1, 2003 But would ya keep it at Surser a 3 Way because the sell of it was that either men have beaten the other man HEALTHY... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Polish_Rifle Report post Posted July 1, 2003 The question is: Will Zach Gowen wear a Mr. America shirt on Smackdown? Nothing was lost with the departure of Crash and Piper but with Hogan out, the main angle on SD will just have to revolve around the intriguing Sable/Stephanie/Vince saga. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 1, 2003 But would ya keep it at Surser a 3 Way because the sell of it was that either men have beaten the other man HEALTHY... I don't care, as long as dickhead Brock gets the belt there and keeps it til Mania Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 1, 2003 I can see your logic AS...I just wanted to give Benoit a title run when there was room...and if you keep him in the mix...Knowing the injury rate for Angle and Lesnar...He could step in... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jm29195 Report post Posted July 1, 2003 I'm sure how you would book it would produce loads of decent matches but it still sems that only Benoit is elevated into the main event whilst Big Show is pushed back down:- considering that Angle has recently been saying he's contemplating retirement after wmXX this would leave only Benoit and Lesnar up there after the big event. I stil think soem of the younger guys such as Hardy or Cena could be given prolonged pushes in oreder to establish them as top tier players. If pushed properly even the cruiserweight division could be a viable draw of Smackdown but at the moment Cruiserweights such as Mysterio are not made to look anywhere near thelevel of Big Show ore even Albert Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted July 1, 2003 GO WITH THE Three Way and TBS jobs and thus use it to set up tension between Angle and Lesnar with AngleSlam winning but Lesnar getting the pinfall instead in one of those whacky "Lesnar was knocked out but TBS landed right by Lesnar and lesnar simply laid his arm over him and won" (Now Angle knows how it feels...Remember that's how he won the SIX MAN HIAC)... I prefer the "Tag Match, then Singles Dog Collar match" rather than the 3 way dance. I don't think Angle and Brock should be touching right now let-alone wrestling against each other. That re-match _does_ mean something, let's keep it pure. You have Benoit and Rhyno against the new WWE Tag Team Champions T.B.D.T.T.P on SMACKDOWN Rhyno turns heel... I think the Rhyno heel turn will come in Benoits semi-final US tag tournament match w/ (most likely) Matt Hardy. We might be seeing Rhyno become his bodyguard, or just straight-up go against Benoit at Vengeance. Benoit gets rhyno in an Last Man Standing for Slam... This would be very cool. But it would need A LOT of focus and attention and drama to make it fully work and for the crowd to really care. TBS moves down and fueds with John Cena in a Comedy Angle where CENA pretty much turns face. I'd see Cena feuding with Billy Gunn over the US title - and turning face after all those Rockabilly raps. Angle wins the title at Slam but Lesnar takes an Rib injury during the match... Angle vs. Brock at Slam is probably the best bet. I'd say have Brock turn heel in this match and allign himself with Heyman (after a month of worrying about Kurt Angle) and have him retain. Keep that belt strong by having a lengthy title reign. You have Benoit go over Rhyno and thus is the #1 contender... Benoit wrestles Angle to an draw at Unforgiven...Lesnar makes his return as an Heel with Heyman by Attacking Mysterio (his former buddy)... I'd have Rhyno and Lesnar team up in a tag match vs. Benoit and Angle at Unforgiven (or would it be No Mercy?) Benoit still be the #1 contender though. I'd have Benoit be #1 contender and have Angle want to help him train. Have Heyman sneak in a no-rematch clause into the Brock/Angle SS contact (an Homage to Luger/Yokozuna.. you know what I'm working at ) I'll finish this when I get back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 1, 2003 I can see your logic AS...I just wanted to give Benoit a title run when there was room...and if you keep him in the mix...Knowing the injury rate for Angle and Lesnar...He could step in... But, there really isn't room, and that's the problem. Sticking a Benoit title reign right in the middle of what should be the height of the Brock/Angle feud just interupts the flow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Choken One Report post Posted July 1, 2003 OK fine...Don't do it then... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ANKLELOCK 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2003 So they are gonna ditch the Mr. America angle? YYYYYYEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS~~~~~~~~~~~~~~!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted July 1, 2003 Smackdown elevation, Who's next? Chris Benoit, definitely. He fucks his neck up, recovers after a year's abscence, helps put on arguably the best wrestling match of 2003 so far and gets shitted on. Have Brock turn heel, defeat Angle again and face Benoit (People love him more as a face) at SummerSlam. As much as I want Benoit to be the US Champion again, he should move onto better and just let Matt Hardy or John Cena win the title. Like someone was saying earlier, Angle / Lesnar shouldn't be dragged out (As we've seen with Lesnar / Show, SIX months?!!). Lesnar/Benoit should definitely be the proper SD main event for SummerSlam (it would be fitting for Brock to head into SS as the champ since he won the title a year ago). They never fought. Benoit's never won the WWE Championship. Lesnar's never lost by submission. I think its perfect and if they let Benoit finally win the big one at WWE's 2nd biggest PPV of the year, even better. Besides, Angle/Benoit needs a break. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
